The Windows 10 privacy nightmare continues...

[John Connor]

I have very little proprietary software.

Most programs I use are WinSCP, Notepad ++ and LibreOffice. Toss in 7Z and other crap.

 

[lxskllr]

I have very little proprietary software.

Most programs I use are WinSCP, Notepad ++ and LibreOffice. Toss in 7Z and other crap.

You don't need Windows for any of that. Seems to me a bit of effort learning a couple new programs will save you a bunch of aggravation now, and going forward.

 

[John Connor]

There's no "aggravation." Why make this an issue?

 

[lxskllr]

There's no "aggravation." Why make this an issue?

Thread title...

"The Windows 10 privacy nightmare continues..."

With a downthumb indicating disapproval.

Perhaps we a have a different understanding of English.

 

[ninaholic37]

My guess is that John Connor is sticking with Windows 7 until 2020, or until the Windows 7 updates get too intrusive (which is apparently already happening).

 

[John Connor]

Thread title...

"The Windows 10 privacy nightmare continues..."

With a downthumb indicating disapproval.

Perhaps we a have a different understanding of English.

I thought you were referring to my use of Windows open source software.

My guess is that John Connor is sticking with Windows 7 until 2020, or until the Windows 7 updates get too intrusive (which is apparently already happening).

Yep!

 

[TeknoBug]

I have very little proprietary software.

Most programs I use are WinSCP, Notepad ++ and LibreOffice. Toss in 7Z and other crap.

Coming from writing stuff in *nix with vi/vim, Notepad++ is a real lifesaver and I also use LibraOffice too which handles even Office 2013 docx.

 

[FrankRamiro]

I thought you were referring to my use of Windows open source software.



Yep!

Hi john;sorry to deviate from the topic but i'm curious, what type of antenna is that in your avatar?

 

[Ketchup]

John, the context of the article in the opening post had already been mentioned in another thread that was posted before yours. And it had already been settled as to what this really means.

The main lessons here are:
1. Read in context.
2. If you don't who what a word means, don't guess in order to make a point that fits a point you are trying to make.

So, I guess some of us don't mind deviating from a well-hashed non-issue.

 

[John Connor]

More BS.

http://www.extremetech.com/computin...y-invading-windows-10-features-to-windows-7-8

 

[John Connor]

Hi john;sorry to deviate from the topic but i'm curious, what type of antenna is that in your avatar?

The avatar I had was a picture of a very expensive military polarized Dorne & Margolin UHF portable SATCOM antenna.

 

[Mem]

Morons like myself? You wanna pull that huge weed out of your ass, Puff the magic dragon.

I think some people overreact, you get more surveillance when you leave your house, besides only those that pirate games/software should be worried, most of us don't so not an issue.


You can always go Linux.

 

[Underclocked]

Mem, the fact that MOST of us don't have an issue is really the problem. It isn't about whether you have an illegal copy of PacMan on your pc.

And just because everyone else is spying or trying to spy on you, doesn't mean we have to accept without objection even more spying from our operating systems.

They say to never look a gift horse in the mouth, but they might be very wrong in this case.

 

[Mem]

Mem, the fact that MOST of us don't have an issue is really the problem. It isn't about whether you have an illegal copy of PacMan on your pc.

And just because everyone else is spying or trying to spy on you, doesn't mean we have to accept without objection even more spying from our operating systems.

They say to never look a gift horse in the mouth, but they might be very wrong in this case.

Google and Apple have been doing it for years,throw in all those cameras around the world and all the latest technology around and you are going to have a tough time of keeping privacy to a minimum, end of the day you don't have to install Win10 but can go with other Operating Systems that have better privacy for the user.

For good or bad fact is, it's the sign of modern times.

 

[Phoenix86]

Mem, the fact that MOST of us don't have an issue is really the problem. It isn't about whether you have an illegal copy of PacMan on your pc.

And just because everyone else is spying or trying to spy on you, doesn't mean we have to accept without objection even more spying from our operating systems.

They say to never look a gift horse in the mouth, but they might be very wrong in this case.

You give far more information out with a smart phone than what can be gleaned from a PC OS. You say we don't have to accept it, but did you? Do you have an iOS/driod smart phone?

If you want to fight a privacy battle, start there.

Sounds like they are pushing this down to older OSes, so you won't be able to avoid it by not upgrading. Fight the OS battle if you want to as well, but upgrading vs. not doesn't seem to solve the problem.

 

[Underclocked]

Actually, it can be avoided somewhat. Even in Windows 7 and Windows 8/8.1. No, I don't own such a phone and will not. I have no NEED of such a phone - and neither do most people that have them.

So just roll over and apply the KY gel or fight this trend??

Microsoft had at least, in the past, maintained at least some symbolic respect for user privacy - now they have abandoned that respect in every way and are even trying to shove their new "philosophy" down users' throats.

 

[Phoenix86]

Actually, it can be avoided somewhat. Even in Windows 7 and Windows 8/8.1. No, I don't own such a phone and will not. I have no NEED of such a phone - and neither do most people that have them.

So just roll over and apply the KY gel or fight this trend??

Microsoft had at least, in the past, maintained at least some symbolic respect for user privacy - now they have abandoned that respect in every way and are even trying to shove their new "philosophy" down users' throats.

Fight indeed, but not with your wallet vs. a product. As seen by this thread you're going to end up fighting everyone. Apple, Google, MS. Not many options left.

Privacy is a rights issue and has to be managed at the government level. I know, it's a bigger hurdle, but it's how you do it.

 

[Underclocked]

Phoenix86, you are surely right but that does mean we can not do what we are able to do to defeat these efforts, individually.

My Win10 install is buttoned up as well as I can short of going blocking router ports or pulling the ethernet cable. That install also sees very little use for anything other than trying to educate myself a bit on its workings.

I'm afraid there aren't enough of us objecting at this point to have much impact.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Microsoft had at least, in the past, maintained at least some symbolic respect for user privacy - now they have abandoned that respect in every way and are even trying to shove their new "philosophy" down users' throats.

I'm curious - did you think that MS didn't collect data before?
https://kx.cloudingenium.com/microsoft/windows/what-is-sqm-telemetry-microsoft-com/

 

[Ns1]

More BS.

http://www.extremetech.com/computin...y-invading-windows-10-features-to-windows-7-8

even less facts given.

 

[Underclocked]

No, I did not think that. But I think that linked reference would be comparing a snowball to an avalanche.

 

[denis280]

This is only in place to keep morons like your self in line

NO need for this.op is allowed to share is opinion,and this is mine also

 

[SparkyJJO]

Fight indeed, but not with your wallet vs. a product. As seen by this thread you're going to end up fighting everyone. Apple, Google, MS. Not many options left.

Privacy is a rights issue and has to be managed at the government level. I know, it's a bigger hurdle, but it's how you do it.

Except of all of them the government is the most interested in spying on you. At worst, MS/Google want to make money by targeted advertising. The government just wants control. They are certainly not the solution, unless we clear house and get guys in there that actually respect privacy (good luck... we'll need it).

 

[John Connor]

OMG the fracking sheep.

 

[RampantAndroid]

No, I did not think that. But I think that linked reference would be comparing a snowball to an avalanche.

OMG the fracking sheep.

So with so much outrage, where is a list of what they're collecting that says it's a privacy issue? A LOT of software reports stuff...how do you think companies know if things are working or not?

You think MS killing software is new? Think again: https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=windows killbits