The week in GOP world of batcrap: McCain conspiracists say his brain cancer was a hoax

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...f7faa680710_story.html?utm_term=.87c059f974e9


And not just the internet conspiratards. The running GOP AZ senate candidate claimed his death was a ploy to take attention off her campaign: Chemtrail believing Kelli Ward who has as a guest speaker on her campaign, white supremacist and rabid conspiratard, Mike Cernovich.


President Trump displayed his innate grace and decency Saturday by spiking a White House statementhonoring the late Sen. John McCain’s life. Monday morning, the flag over the White House was ( until criticism poured in ) back to full staff, six days before protocol says it should have been.​

Even for Trump, this seemed churlish. Unless there is another explanation: John McCain is not dead.

When McCain’s family put out the news Friday that he had discontinued treatment for his terminal brain cancer, this was done “to take media attention” from Senate candidate Kelli Ward, and, according to Ward herself, replace it with a “narrative that they hope is negative to me.”
Ward had unsuccessfully challenged McCain in the 2016 Republican primary in Arizona, so it makes complete sense that, two years later, McCain would arrange his death to divert attention from Ward’s bus tour.

Furthermore, according to a conspiracy theory network popular among some Trump boosters, when McCain supposedly died on Saturday, he did not succumb to cancer but took his own life to avoid being hauled off to Guantanamo Bay and put before a military tribunal for his longtime work helping Islamic State terrorists and others. (And before he died, he concealed his criminal ankle bracelet by wearing a medical boot on his leg.)

Unless, of course, the suicide, like the cancer, was just a ruse. In that case, McCain will continue to work secretly for the deep state and for the Clinton Foundation.

So many lies. Heck, he’s even lying in state!

In death, as in life, McCain has a way of bringing out the loons. Undoubtedly the posthumous conspiracy theories would have amused him as much as anybody. He took particular delight in debunking “propaganda and crackpot conspiracy theories,” as he put it to Naval Academy midshipmen 10 months ago.

No matter the evidence, “still the conspiracy theorists hock their wares,” he wrote in 2009, introducing a bookrefuting 9/11 conspiracy notions. “They ignore the methods of science, the protocols of investigation and the dictates of logic. The conspiracy theorists chase any bit of information, no matter how flimsy, and use it to fit their preordained conclusions. They ascribe to the government, or to some secretive group, powers wholly out of proportion to what the evidence suggests. And they ignore the facts that are present in plain sight. We cannot let these tales go unanswered.”

Answering those tales is even more important at a time when the president amplifies and echoes them. In his love of truth, McCain was the anti-Trump. Trump rose to power with his “birther” conspiracy theory and the support of the Alex Jones crowd, and he has literally thrown open the doors of the White House to conspiracy theorists.

Last Thursday, as the Daily Beast’s Asawin Suebsaeng and Will Sommer reported, Trump hosted Lionel Lebron, a prominent conspiracy theorist, and posed with him in the Oval Office. Lebron is a 9/11 truther who believes Trump is fighting the deep state and globalist pedophiles and is a leading promoter of the very online network floating the notion McCain is alive or a suicide. Three days after his White House visit, Lebron tweeted an image of Trump crossing a swamp of Democrats, featuring racist images of Barack and Michelle Obama and the words “fire at will.”

With the exception of Hillary Clinton, perhaps nobody stoked the conspiracy crowd’s fevers like McCain. He was “songbird” McCain, a secret agent of the North Vietnamese who threw the 2008 election to Obama, covertly met with the leaders of Islamic State in Syria, secretively started the Robert S. Mueller III “witch hunt” against Trump, and was “in bed with the Clinton Foundation” but turned against Clinton shortly before his death.

A post on Sunday from the leader of a prominent conspiracy forum wrestled with whether McCain killed himself or surrendered: “Suicide weekend? Hands up? . . . We are in control. BIG week ahead.”

One wacky participant speculated: “National Dog Day happens to be the day McCain’s death announced. Coincidence?” (Sorry, no. McCain died Saturday. National Dog Day was Sunday.)

Weirdly, conspiracy theorist broadcaster Alex Jones accepted at face value McCain’s death from brain cancer. “I’m gonna take the high road because I think McCain was actually a twisted, compromised, tortured individual,” Jones said, calling McCain “leader of the deep state.”

McCain would have had a ready rejoinder for these “deathers” — just as he did when he took the microphone in 2008 from the supporter who called Barack Obama an “Arab”; ridiculed “chemtrail Kelli Ward” in 2016 for promoting the belief that jet contrails spread biological weapons and change weather; and denounced the “nutty conspiracy theory” in 2015 that accused him of staging Islamic State beheadings.

McCain answered these nuts with calm reason. In memory of him, let’s continue his fight until they, and their leader in the Oval Office, return to the crevices whence they came.
 
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UNCjigga

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Wait...no Hillary bodycount + 1 rumors? Were they really knocking back vodka shots in Tallinn, or did Hillary slip him the ol' Novochok???
 

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Wait...no Hillary bodycount + 1 rumors? Were they really knocking back vodka shots in Tallinn, or did Hillary slip him the ol' Novochok???

OMFG! Hillary! She slipped him a super sekrit carcinogen years ago!
 

Phokus

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OMFG! Hillary! She slipped him a super sekrit carcinogen years ago!

John McCain found out about the other Hillary Clinton child sex ring locations (one of them in a basement of a taco joint) and she had to act fast
 

HomerJS

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I'm convinced Trump's deplorables wouldn't leave him if he was found with dick in a dead baby.


I take that back if the baby was male they would
 

trenchfoot

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Look at where Trump has taken the Repub Party to. He's infected it with his despicable personality, his broken moral compass, his chronic habit of lying as a means to make the world fit his unique vision of it and his supporters adore him for it.

He has set an horrific example for the party to follow. He set a precedent as to what kind of (formerly) inexcusable behavior is acceptable for his party so long as the evangelist minority get to dictate terms to the nation, so long as the KKK and the Nazi's get the legitimacy and standing as a viable part of the American experience, so long as the paranoia driven gun hoarders get to keep their toys, so long as the Repubs in Congress get to keep their seats any and every possible way they can think of, so long as the very wealthy donor class get to keep control of the levers of gov't and most of all so long as Trump gets to call the shots the way any bonafide dictator would.

The conspiracists are out in force because it helps Trump and any Repub that's hanging on to his coat tails. Things have gotten so out of hand, so out of control for the party that it necessitates their use of spinning up outlandish conspiracies in order to "keep the nation out of the hands of those baby murdering anti-Christian freeloading liberals that only want handouts from the govt."

One wonders why it isn't necessary for the Dems to do the same in order to remain as a viable political party.
 
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Look at where Trump has taken the Repub Party to. He's infected it with his despicable personality, his broken moral compass, his chronic habit of lying as a means to make the world fit his unique vision of it and his supporters adore him for it.

He has set an horrific example for the party to follow. He set a precedent as to what kind of (formerly) inexcusable behavior is acceptable for his party so long as the evangelist minority get to dictate terms to the nation, so long as the KKK and the Nazi's get the legitimacy and standing as a viable part of the American experience, so long as the paranoia driven gun hoarders get to keep their toys, so long as the Repubs in Congress get to keep their seats any and every possible way they can think of, so long as the very wealthy donor class get to keep control of the levers of gov't and most of all so long as Trump gets to call the shots the way any bonafide dictator would.

The conspiracists are out in force because it helps Trump and any Repub that's hanging on to his coat tails. Things have gotten so out of hand, so out of control for the party that it necessitates their use of spinning up outlandish conspiracies in order to "keep the nation out of the hands of those baby murdering anti-Christian freeloading liberals that only want handouts from the govt."

One wonders why it isn't necessary for the Dems to do the same in order to remain as a viable political party.

Trump didn't take or infect anything, he just took advantage of the me first, relative morality, profit only matters society that America has devolved into, if anyone tried to run someone like Trump over 20 years ago they would have been laughed out of the primaries like a bad joke,

the road that Trump was able to travel to the White House was paved by the previous politicians and the big business, corporate friendly policies they have enacted over the last few decades while paying lip service to their constituents for their votes on election day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIlzYD4tk78

Americans kept electing liars that promised them whatever they wanted to hear while kicking the can down the road for the next guy and now they are lamenting that they ended up with a guy as president whose very nature is to lie.
 

emperus

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Trump didn't take or infect anything, he just took advantage of the me first, relative morality, profit only matters society that America has devolved into, if anyone tried to run someone like Trump over 20 years ago they would have been laughed out of the primaries like a bad joke,

the road that Trump was able to travel to the White House was paved by the previous politicians and the big business, corporate friendly policies they have enacted over the last few decades while paying lip service to their constituents for their votes on election day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIlzYD4tk78

Americans kept electing liars that promised them whatever they wanted to hear while kicking the can down the road for the next guy and now they are lamenting that they ended up with a guy as president whose very nature is to lie.

Trump wouldn't have won a Democratic primary. Electing people like Trump is purely a problem of the fox news driven Driven Republican party. Remember for a minute the parties heralded heroes were the likes of Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber. Trump is an easy extension of that.
 

Jaskalas

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One wonders why it isn't necessary for the Dems to do the same in order to remain as a viable political party.

Unless Mueller turns something up with Russia attached, one could argue that Democrats already started two years ago. Granted, it actually has a chance of being true, unlike the GOP counterpart(s), but it's still a deeply held conviction that remains to be proven.
 

realibrad

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...f7faa680710_story.html?utm_term=.87c059f974e9


And not just the internet conspiratards. The running GOP AZ senate candidate claimed his death was a ploy to take attention off her campaign: Chemtrail believing Kelli Ward who has as a guest speaker on her campaign, white supremacist and rabid conspiratard, Mike Cernovich.


President Trump displayed his innate grace and decency Saturday by spiking a White House statementhonoring the late Sen. John McCain’s life. Monday morning, the flag over the White House was ( until criticism poured in ) back to full staff, six days before protocol says it should have been.​

Even for Trump, this seemed churlish. Unless there is another explanation: John McCain is not dead.

When McCain’s family put out the news Friday that he had discontinued treatment for his terminal brain cancer, this was done “to take media attention” from Senate candidate Kelli Ward, and, according to Ward herself, replace it with a “narrative that they hope is negative to me.”
Ward had unsuccessfully challenged McCain in the 2016 Republican primary in Arizona, so it makes complete sense that, two years later, McCain would arrange his death to divert attention from Ward’s bus tour.

Furthermore, according to a conspiracy theory network popular among some Trump boosters, when McCain supposedly died on Saturday, he did not succumb to cancer but took his own life to avoid being hauled off to Guantanamo Bay and put before a military tribunal for his longtime work helping Islamic State terrorists and others. (And before he died, he concealed his criminal ankle bracelet by wearing a medical boot on his leg.)

Unless, of course, the suicide, like the cancer, was just a ruse. In that case, McCain will continue to work secretly for the deep state and for the Clinton Foundation.

So many lies. Heck, he’s even lying in state!

In death, as in life, McCain has a way of bringing out the loons. Undoubtedly the posthumous conspiracy theories would have amused him as much as anybody. He took particular delight in debunking “propaganda and crackpot conspiracy theories,” as he put it to Naval Academy midshipmen 10 months ago.

No matter the evidence, “still the conspiracy theorists hock their wares,” he wrote in 2009, introducing a bookrefuting 9/11 conspiracy notions. “They ignore the methods of science, the protocols of investigation and the dictates of logic. The conspiracy theorists chase any bit of information, no matter how flimsy, and use it to fit their preordained conclusions. They ascribe to the government, or to some secretive group, powers wholly out of proportion to what the evidence suggests. And they ignore the facts that are present in plain sight. We cannot let these tales go unanswered.”

Answering those tales is even more important at a time when the president amplifies and echoes them. In his love of truth, McCain was the anti-Trump. Trump rose to power with his “birther” conspiracy theory and the support of the Alex Jones crowd, and he has literally thrown open the doors of the White House to conspiracy theorists.

Last Thursday, as the Daily Beast’s Asawin Suebsaeng and Will Sommer reported, Trump hosted Lionel Lebron, a prominent conspiracy theorist, and posed with him in the Oval Office. Lebron is a 9/11 truther who believes Trump is fighting the deep state and globalist pedophiles and is a leading promoter of the very online network floating the notion McCain is alive or a suicide. Three days after his White House visit, Lebron tweeted an image of Trump crossing a swamp of Democrats, featuring racist images of Barack and Michelle Obama and the words “fire at will.”

With the exception of Hillary Clinton, perhaps nobody stoked the conspiracy crowd’s fevers like McCain. He was “songbird” McCain, a secret agent of the North Vietnamese who threw the 2008 election to Obama, covertly met with the leaders of Islamic State in Syria, secretively started the Robert S. Mueller III “witch hunt” against Trump, and was “in bed with the Clinton Foundation” but turned against Clinton shortly before his death.

A post on Sunday from the leader of a prominent conspiracy forum wrestled with whether McCain killed himself or surrendered: “Suicide weekend? Hands up? . . . We are in control. BIG week ahead.”

One wacky participant speculated: “National Dog Day happens to be the day McCain’s death announced. Coincidence?” (Sorry, no. McCain died Saturday. National Dog Day was Sunday.)

Weirdly, conspiracy theorist broadcaster Alex Jones accepted at face value McCain’s death from brain cancer. “I’m gonna take the high road because I think McCain was actually a twisted, compromised, tortured individual,” Jones said, calling McCain “leader of the deep state.”

McCain would have had a ready rejoinder for these “deathers” — just as he did when he took the microphone in 2008 from the supporter who called Barack Obama an “Arab”; ridiculed “chemtrail Kelli Ward” in 2016 for promoting the belief that jet contrails spread biological weapons and change weather; and denounced the “nutty conspiracy theory” in 2015 that accused him of staging Islamic State beheadings.

McCain answered these nuts with calm reason. In memory of him, let’s continue his fight until they, and their leader in the Oval Office, return to the crevices whence they came.

A distinction that does not make what she said any better, but, her claim was that the announcement that he had stopped treatment was timed to hurt her. Her claim was not that his cancer or death was used to hurt her or a conspiracy. She is a shit bag for sure. Believing that a family that was giving up and accepting death would be concerned with her trivial campaign shows how messed up she is. What a horrible and or crazy person.
 

hal2kilo

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Trump didn't take or infect anything, he just took advantage of the me first, relative morality, profit only matters society that America has devolved into, if anyone tried to run someone like Trump over 20 years ago they would have been laughed out of the primaries like a bad joke,

the road that Trump was able to travel to the White House was paved by the previous politicians and the big business, corporate friendly policies they have enacted over the last few decades while paying lip service to their constituents for their votes on election day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIlzYD4tk78

Americans kept electing liars that promised them whatever they wanted to hear while kicking the can down the road for the next guy and now they are lamenting that they ended up with a guy as president whose very nature is to lie.
So Bothsides! Can find Trump responsible for anything right.
 

Jhhnn

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Unless Mueller turns something up with Russia attached, one could argue that Democrats already started two years ago. Granted, it actually has a chance of being true, unlike the GOP counterpart(s), but it's still a deeply held conviction that remains to be proven.

Yeh, the Trump Tower meeting was just attempted collusion that fell through so it's not a problem, really. According to the participants, anyway. And Trump didn't know about it until afterwards. The massive Russian propaganda effort in social media was utterly divorced from the Trump campaign. Their hacking & timely release of the info was purely coincidental. Stone's interactions with Guccifer 2.0 & Assange were completely innocent.

And Trump totally dominated Putin in Helsinki. The determination of our own intelligence agencies are no reason to think that it would or wouldn't be Russia who did the hacking. What do they know, anyway? Putin's adamant denials are really very convincing.

And if it did happen, so what? Collusion isn't a crime.

John McCain? He's the real traitor. His disdain for our Great Leader proves that entirely.
 

Jhhnn

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So Bothsides! Can find Trump responsible for anything right.

Trump took the craziness created by decades of right wing propaganda & used it for his own ends. None of it was new, just standard right wing boiler plate with the special sauce of his reality TV persona, Russian help & big data targeting courtesy of Cambridge analytica.

It was easy for the GOP to get behind him after the convention because he'd been singing their song all along. It was like putting classical music to a war drum beat.
 

Indus

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I'm convinced Trump's deplorables wouldn't leave him if he was found with dick in a dead baby.


I take that back if the baby was male they would

They'd offer their first born son as a sacrifice to him.