The War on Drugs and the Smoking Gun

bshole

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So what started this insane war on drugs? We know the answer finally. It was a political tool to target blacks and hippies. Straight from the horses mouth. PURE..... F U C K I N G..... EVIL.......

One of Richard Nixon's top advisers and a key figure in the Watergate scandal said the war on drugs was created as a political tool to fight blacks and hippies, according to a 22-year-old interview recently published in Harper's Magazine.

"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people," former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman told Harper's writer Dan Baum for the April cover story published Tuesday.

"You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-richard-nixon-drug-war-blacks-hippie/
 
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So what started this insane war on drugs? We know the answer finally. It was a political tool to target blacks and hippies. Straight from the horses mouth. PURE..... F U C K I N G..... EVIL.......





http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-richard-nixon-drug-war-blacks-hippie/

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Dunno how long that tape's been public. I heard it on the show Adam Ruins Everything.

Yeah it's about as transparent discrimination as voter ID laws. It does not matter that there are some fundamental reasons to consider a change; they are trumped by the desire to use as a discriminatory political tool in the setting of no considerable benefit except in principles (if you even support those principles).
 
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DrunkenSano

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Wasn't it the CIA that also helped bring cocaine in from South America to be distributed into the streets of California?
 
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Wasn't it the CIA that also helped bring cocaine in from South America to be distributed into the streets of California?

I dunno, I always read something somewhere about how the CIA started the crack epidemic in the inner cities, but I've never seen real evidence that they were a driving force. Urban legend? I'm definitely gonna watch 'Snowfall' on FX..that new Singleton joint looks dope (no pun intended.)
 

DarthKyrie

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Wasn't it the CIA that also helped bring cocaine in from South America to be distributed into the streets of California?

You are correct, the CIA has been responsible for the majority of the hard drugs coming into the country since they were banned by the Feds. It's the reason we are still in Afghanistan, gotta protect those poppy fields so the CIA can bring all kinds of heroin into the country. It all comes in thru a little airport in Hope, Arkansas.
 

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It's the same business model religion has subscribed to for thousands of years.
 
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Jhhnn

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Ancient history. I lived it. What matters today is that Sessions wants to divert resources from enforcement against drugs that kill people (Meth, heroin, prescription opiates, cocaine) to enforcement against a drug that doesn't kill people, cannabis.

It's absurd, but so are a lot of things Conservative.
 

pauldun170

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Ancient history. I lived it. What matters today is that Sessions wants to divert resources from enforcement against drugs that kill people (Meth, heroin, prescription opiates, cocaine) to enforcement against a drug that doesn't kill people, cannabis.

It's absurd, but so are a lot of things Conservative.

Meth, Heroin, prescription opiates and cocaine need treatment and compassion...not punishment. Perhaps funds to religious organizations to help those poor unfortunates pray their afflictions away. We can't have police departments arresting citizens when terrorist things are terrorizing things
Unless the data shows the the problem shifting away from wholesome middle america to negro neighbor.....I mean the "inner city". Then we would need to police the shit out of those drugs.
 

Azuma Hazuki

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Well of course. Why do you think crack cocaine has such harsh penalties compared to good ol' Colombian schnozz frosting?
 
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FelixDeCat

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Illegal drugs are a scourge on the world.

I've been watching a show on the Justice Network called "Drugs, Inc.", it is very eye opening. They misery and suffering users endure while crying for a better life of no addiction is VERY saddening. Some see death as the only way out of their misery and pray for it These users tend to be on meth, heroine, spice, bath salts or over the counter pain killers sold in back alleys or dispensed at pill mills. And the dealers keeping dealing despite all the pain they see. Murderers.
 

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Illegal drugs are a scourge on the world.

I've been watching a show on the Justice Network called "Drugs, Inc.", it is very eye opening. They misery and suffering users endure while crying for a better life of no addiction is VERY saddening. Some see death as the only way out of their misery and pray for it These users tend to be on meth, heroine, spice, bath salts or over the counter pain killers sold in back alleys or dispensed at pill mills. And the dealers keeping dealing despite all the pain they see. Murderers.
doesn't matter legal or illegal. users are users despite what it says in the law books.

IMHO every drug should be legalized. I need no protection from myself.... at least not as far as drugs are concerned
 
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zzyzxroad

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doesn't matter legal or illegal. users are users despite what it says in the law books.

IMHO every drug should be legalized. I need no protection from myself.... at least not as far as drugs are concerned

Anyone with half a brain knows drug prohibition doesn't work. Unless your goal is to fill up a bunch of risons or fear mongering. For those purposes it work stunningly well. Oh and funding criminal organisations.
 
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zzyzxroad

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Illegal drugs are a scourge on the world.

I've been watching a show on the Justice Network called "Drugs, Inc.", it is very eye opening. They misery and suffering users endure while crying for a better life of no addiction is VERY saddening. Some see death as the only way out of their misery and pray for it These users tend to be on meth, heroine, spice, bath salts or over the counter pain killers sold in back alleys or dispensed at pill mills. And the dealers keeping dealing despite all the pain they see. Murderers.

You catch the gangland on ms13... scary stuff.

J/K sounds like you need more life experience and to stop being fritened by your television. Wtf is the justice network.
 

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The war on drugs should be ended as soon as possible. How many people need to die or have their lives ruined to try and stop people from using drugs?
 

zzyzxroad

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The war on drugs should be ended as soon as possible. How many people need to die or have their lives ruined to try and stop people from using drugs?
Who's ruining their life or dieing stopping people from using drugs.
 

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Who's ruining their life or dieing stopping people from using drugs.

The drug trade itself is violent precisely because it is an underground, illegal trade. In legal businesses, if one person or company say, screws over another person or company in a deal, the offending party gets sued. He doesn't get a Colombian neck tie. And it isn't just drug dealers killing other drug dealers. Innocents get get caught in the cross-hairs as well.
 
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zzyzxroad

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"woolfe9998, post: 38947931, member: 326181"]The drug trade itself is violent precisely because it is an underground, illegal trade. In legal businesses, if one person or company say, screws over another person or company in a deal, the offending party gets sued. He doesn't get a Colombian neck tie. And it isn't just drug dealers killing other drug dealers. Innocents get get caught in the cross-hairs as well.

Not all drugs are illegal. I sip a legally purchased kentucky bourbon regularly. And where are you getting your ideas of how things work. Are Columbian neck ties a regular occurrence where you live? Because I live in the mother fucking free world and have never known anyone to wear one.
 
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soundforbjt

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Not all drugs are illegal. I sip a legally purchased kentucky bourbon regularly. And where are you getting your ideas of how things work. Are Columbian neck ties a regular occurrence where you live? Because I live in the mother fucking free world and have never known anyone to wear one.
That drug kills/hurts more people than the illegal ones.