The War On Christmas: [The Pope]

[Newell Steamer]

http://www.timesofisrael.com/pope-christmas-a-charade-in-world-that-has-chosen-war-and-hate/

“Christmas is approaching: there will be lights, parties, Christmas trees and nativity scenes … it’s all a charade. The world continues to go to war. The world has not chosen a peaceful path,” he said in a sermon.

The Liberals have clearly gotten to the Pontiff.

1st he doesn't invade America to liberate free Davis. 2nd he talks all about looking out for the poor. And NOW, he bashes Christmas.

 

[thraashman]

The problem with this pope in the eyes of American conservatives is that he actually follows Christianity as Christians claim it is (though in practice almost never is). Conservatives in America pay lip service to Christianity but in actuality are really shitty human beings. It's impossible to be both good and a Republican or vote for a Republican.

 

[TheSlamma]

Shouldn't Easter be 10000000000000X more important than Christmas to Christians anyway? I mean that was the whole point after all right? That day just comes and goes and no one bats an eye. Maybe because stores can only squeeze so much out of the Easter egg thing?

 

[TheSlamma]

The problem with this pope in the eyes of American conservatives is that he actually follows Christianity as Christians claim it is (though in practice almost never is). Conservatives in America pay lip service to Christianity but in actuality are really shitty human beings. It's impossible to be both good and a Republican or vote for a Republican.

If Jesus really did exist I don't think he would side with either political party. I don't see him taking in money from big oil, big bank or pharmaceuticals to run as the next messiah.

As much as I support pro choice I don't think he would agree with that, guess it would depend on his "when does the soul begin" stance.

 

[Jaskalas]

Pope denounces violence.
Shame he has no equal in the Middle East.

 

[ralfy]

Likely he has no equal among military powers using Middle Eastern countries as pawns.

 

[kage69]

Pope denounces violence.
Shame he has no equal in the Middle East.

Islam being completely different structure wise rules out that there could be a pope like figure to begin with, but I think the gist of your post bears a false premise. I'll disagree by saying plenty of influential muslims denounce violence and extremism. Off the top of my head:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/17/world/meast/grand-ayatollah-ali-al-sistani-fast-facts/

This guy ended up helping us out quite a bit, and is still a voice of moderation in Iraq that carries a lot of weight.

https://www.rt.com/politics/266293-chechen-mufti-isis-fatwa/

A kid by muslim scholar standards, this guy has been instrumental in making revenge honor killings in Chechnya an increasingly rare tradition. One generation ago it was completely normal for a Chechen to take the day off work to go find and kill the guy that killed his brother, father, etc. Now it's increasingly being seen as behavior of animals like ISIS, who they've condemned as enemies of their religion.

Al Ahzar also regularly denounces violence. I'm not sure you can find a more respected institution in the muslim world for reference if you insist on viewing the East through a lens from the West.

 

[Sonikku]

Don't be too glum for them though. I hear Foxconn has installed suicide nets to help curb all the employees trying to jump to their deaths.

 

[IronWing]

Don't be too glum for them though. I hear Foxconn has installed suicide nets to help curb all the employees trying to jump to their deaths.

I blame the one child policy. Without it, there would be more workers to make cheap crap for America and the current workers wouldn't be so stressed.

 

[MongGrel]

Don't be too glum for them though. I hear Foxconn has installed suicide nets to help curb all the employees trying to jump to their deaths.

Yeah, those have been around a few years now.

 

[1prophet]

Pope denounces violence.
Shame he has no equal in the Middle East.

The solution with Islam is not a touchy feel good Pope, but rather the same remedy that has worked for all other religions,

Separation of Religion from State,

As for Christmas, the war has been started by the very Christians who helped turn it into a commercialized mammon quest, what new shiny thing have you got for me that I will get bored of before New Years and want something else, instead of good will to all men and helping the less fortunate first.

 

[Subyman]

He is right IMO. All the crap surrounding Christmas doesn't mean anything if you do not actually practice what Jesus teaches. All the plastic crap people string around their house isn't Christmas, it is a charade. Exactly as he describes. This is a great Pope IMO.

 

[kage69]

He is right IMO. All the crap surrounding Christmas doesn't mean anything if you do not actually practice what Jesus teaches. All the plastic crap people string around their house isn't Christmas, it is a charade. Exactly as he describes. This is a great Pope IMO.

I agree, and I say that as someone who can't stand the catholic church. It put a smile on my face to hear of this new pope's distaste of opulence. Kinda falls more in line with the stuff they preach, instead of the complete opposite.

Tax free baby...

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2014/08/us/american-archbishops-lavish-homes/

 

[kage69]

The solution with Islam is not a touchy feel good Pope, but rather the same remedy that has worked for all other religions,

Separation of Religion from State,

I think you might dig this article, I thought he brought up several good points http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/01/02/islam-will-not-have-its-own-reformation/

Also,

http://new.spectator.co.uk/2015/02/...ormation-is-lazy-and-historically-illiterate/

 

[Franz316]

I'm not religious but this Pope seems always on point with what he says. Right Pope at the right time for our world.

 

[dainthomas]

Kudos to him on calling people out for their selfishness, violence, and greed.

You can twist your actions enough to fool other people, and maybe even yourself, into thinking you're good. But the Lord knows your true heart. There will be no deception when you face Him.

 

[Retro Rob]

The problem with this pope in the eyes of American conservatives is that he actually follows Christianity as Christians claim it is (though in practice almost never is). Conservatives in America pay lip service to Christianity but in actuality are really shitty human beings. It's impossible to be both good and a Republican or vote for a Republican.

You can't follow "Christianity" while still proclaiming Jesus was born on Dec 25, which nearly everyone knows (including the Pope) is a lie. What makes his statement so ironic, is that the RCC is responsible for that lie.

 

[Atreus21]

It's impossible to be both good and a Republican or vote for a Republican.

We are just so evil. Evil I tell you.

 

[thraashman]

You can't follow "Christianity" while still proclaiming Jesus was born on Dec 25, which nearly everyone knows (including the Pope) is a lie. What makes his statement so ironic, is that the RCC is responsible for that lie.

I don't know anyone except for perhaps the very young who claim the December 25th is the actual date of birth. It's just the chosen day of observance. Most everyone I know is aware that the date as well as the inclusion of things like fir trees was due to incorporating pagan (and likely Zartosht No-Diso from Zoroastrianism) holidays for purposes of converting said pagans.

 

[Retro Rob]

I don't know anyone except for perhaps the very young who claim the December 25th is the actual date of birth. It's just the chosen day of observance. Most everyone I know is aware that the date as well as the inclusion of things like fir trees was due to incorporating pagan (and likely Zartosht No-Diso from Zoroastrianism) holidays for purposes of converting said pagans.

I was pretty sure Francis said Jesus was born on Christmas:

“An angel of the Lord appeared to [the shepherds] and the glory of the Lord shone around them” (Lk 2:9)This is how the liturgy of this holy Christmas night presents to us the birth of the Saviour: as the light which pierces and dispels the deepest darkness.

https://w2.vatican.va/content/franc...ts/papa-francesco_20141224_omelia-natale.html

 

[thraashman]

I was pretty sure Francis said Jesus was born on Christmas:



https://w2.vatican.va/content/franc...ts/papa-francesco_20141224_omelia-natale.html

Nothing in that quote indicates he's claiming December 25th as the exact date of birth, he's indicating the holiday of Christmas as the observation of that birth.

 

[Retro Rob]

Nothing in that quote indicates he's claiming December 25th as the exact date of birth, he's indicating the holiday of Christmas as the observation of that birth.

Eh, well I aint too much worried about it...

Thanks.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Shouldn't Easter be 10000000000000X more important than Christmas to Christians anyway? I mean that was the whole point after all right? That day just comes and goes and no one bats an eye. Maybe because stores can only squeeze so much out of the Easter egg thing?

Doesn't really matter. The christians stole a pagan seasonal holiday, invented the birth of Jesus backstory and called it Christmas. They stole a different pagan seasonal holiday, invented the resurrection of zombie Jesus and called it Easter. Why does one stolen pagan seasonal holiday outrank another stolen pagan seasonal holiday? Neither one has anything to do with their religion.