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The War in Iraq is comparable to the US Civil War

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Passions

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The US Civil War started out as a war to keep the Union together. Later, under Lincoln, it would transform into a war to free slavery. In the same way, the War in Iraq was a start to find WMD's, later it has transformed into a war to free the Iraqi people from brutal dictatorship from Saddam and Hussein Bros.

The US Civil War divided America and many called for an end to it, many didn't know why we were even fighting. Brother vs Brother. The same goes for Iraq. Many will call for an end and vote for Kerry, but a disaster is in the making. Iraq will fall into chaos and a deeply US-hated Islamic nation like the Taliban will result. Things are going bad for the Bush team, (like the liberal feeding frenzy of Abu Gharb), but GIVE IT A CHANCE, it's only been a year. Countries take time to heal. This will take many years. The US MUST play a pivotal role in shaping Iraqi freedom. Need proof?

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040526/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_islamic_fallujah_3

There is your proof of what happens when the US pulls out. The process will be painful and hard. Innocents will be killed, soldiers will be kidnapped, prison horror stories will come out, but the end result will be acheived if we STAY STRONG. Over 600,000 Americans were killed during the Civil War, but we stayed strong and therefore are a UNION today. If we had a democrat president in 1864, we would be living in USofNA and USofSA. Think about it. It takes time and a strong Republican to heal wounds. Bush deserves time to fix these bumps in the road. For the liberals, your argument could be, "If he created the mess, then he should be the one to fix it." Give him 4 more years, you will see a much better Iraq.

Iraq can become a free and democratic nation, or it can become a spiteful mini-Taliban Islamic nation. The future of a nation is at the core here...just like the civil war. It started out bad, but it will finish good. The Iraqi people will taste freedom and have a unified nation.


My message to P&N: Stay strong, support our troops and America, and vote Bush/Cheney 2004. The fate of a nation depends on it.


"Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free..." -Abraham Lincoln.
 
LOL! The greatest thing about what he says is that it's a perfect imitation of how a crazed neo-con might sound. Dead on! 10/10!
 
If a liberal dares to compare the Iraq War to Vietnam, the conservatives absolutely go nuts. But you go ahead and use an Iraq War/Civil War comparison when its suits you. Being a conservative, makes it easier to be a hypocrite I guess.
 
Can you imagine a lame duck Bush, with a no chance in of hell of ever being elected in 2008 Cheney as Vice President. 4 years of that is a scary thought.
 
Originally posted by: Passions
The US Civil War started out as a war to keep the Union together. Later, under Lincoln, it would transform into a war to free slavery. In the same way, the War in Iraq was a start to find WMD's, later it has transformed into a war to free the Iraqi people from brutal dictatorship from Saddam and Hussein Bros.

The US Civil War divided America and many called for an end to it, many didn't know why we were even fighting. Brother vs Brother. The same goes for Iraq. Many will call for an end and vote for Kerry, but a disaster is in the making. Iraq will fall into chaos and a deeply US-hated Islamic nation like the Taliban will result. Things are going bad for the Bush team, (like the liberal feeding frenzy of Abu Gharb), but GIVE IT A CHANCE, it's only been a year. Countries take time to heal. This will take many years. The US MUST play a pivotal role in shaping Iraqi freedom. Need proof?

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040526/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_islamic_fallujah_3

There is your proof of what happens when the US pulls out. The process will be painful and hard. Innocents will be killed, soldiers will be kidnapped, prison horror stories will come out, but the end result will be acheived if we STAY STRONG. Over 600,000 Americans were killed during the Civil War, but we stayed strong and therefore are a UNION today. If we had a democrat president in 1864, we would be living in USofNA and USofSA. Think about it. It takes time and a strong Republican to heal wounds. Bush deserves time to fix these bumps in the road. For the liberals, your argument could be, "If he created the mess, then he should be the one to fix it." Give him 4 more years, you will see a much better Iraq.

Iraq can become a free and democratic nation, or it can become a spiteful mini-Taliban Islamic nation. The future of a nation is at the core here...just like the civil war. It started out bad, but it will finish good. The Iraqi people will taste freedom and have a unified nation.


My message to P&N: Stay strong, support our troops and America, and vote Bush/Cheney 2004. The fate of a nation depends on it.


"Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free..." -Abraham Lincoln.
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Ahahahaha🙂🙂🙂..Civil War..Ahahahahaha🙂🙂🙂

If this guy wasn't so earnest about what he says it wouldn't be so funny!
 
The scary part of this? Passions is stupid enough to believe this drivel. The neo-conservative hour truly is up when they start writing retarded desperate garbage like this.
 
The problem is, Bush really doesn't have much of a plan for establishing a secular democracy in Iraq. At first, he plans to appoint an interim goverment which will be secular since it is appointed by the IS. But after that, who will emerge as leaders of Iraq? By the end of 2005, elections are supposed to take place. Will the Iraqis elect theymselves an Islamic tyranny? Everyone acts as though electing one person or another as US president in november will have a big impact on the fate of Iraq but I think that isn't true. Iraq will be mostly in the hands of the Iraqis by then. Bush has already lost the war for hearts and minds by failing to even have a battle plan. The only potent option available to the US to shape outcomes in Iraq in 2005 will be military force but that will just create more Iraqi nationalist insurgents.
 
Don Vito:

Bwuahahahahahahaha! Oh , yes too funny. LOL. 🙂

But, what is this "war to free slavery?" Good grief, now there is a novel thought. Bruce Catton would be rolling in his grave with laughter right about now.

🙂

-Robert
 
Originally posted by: Don_Vito
I give this 8/10 if it is a parody thread. If it isn't, you might want to check your house for a carbon monoxide leak.
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He swears it's not an act. He even supposedly PMed the mods complaining that I was being mean to him by calling him out on his act.

I think it would be best if we just ignore this pathetic troll from now on.
 
Originally posted by: conjur

He swears it's not an act. He even supposedly PMed the mods complaining that I was being mean to him by calling him out on his act.

I think it would be best if we just ignore this pathetic troll from now on.
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I just find it really, really odd. I don't mean to pick on anyone, but Passions' whole persona, including his sig, his avatar, his diction, etc. is so strange that it's hard to believe it isn't a put-on. This post in particular is just inexplicably bizarre, unless he is literally sniffing glue.

I just tried Googling "COTW" (his sig refers to "Anti-COTW forces") in case that was a clue of some kind, and the first few results are for Concept of the Week, Corpse of the Week, and Continuous Order to Withhold. The most memorable one is a Bee Gees fan club called "Children of the World." No help there . . . I see he joined exactly one week after me, so maybe I'm responsible on some level.
 
My grandmom always used to say that Passion gas is rude in polite company.

Anyway, he's got the wrong war. I compare OIF to the Crusades: A bunch of misguided Christians invade the Arabs. Collateral damage is high. Endless mistrust follows.
 
Well, I'm assuming Passions is an act but a quickly fading one. He apparently doesn't have enough time to think through his "persona" enough to put it across with the same believability he had awhile back.

Regardless, I think the primary point of his posts is to facilitate discussion. By taking such a wildly partisan approach, almost no one can resist giving him and his topic attention. I AM surprised the right wingers haven't jumped all over him like fleas on a dog. 🙂 They should, because he is ridiculing THEM.

-Robert
 
Originally posted by: chess9
Well, I'm assuming Passions is an act but a quickly fading one. He apparently doesn't have enough time to think through his "persona" enough to put it across with the same believability he had awhile back.

Regardless, I think the primary point of his posts is to facilitate discussion. By taking such a wildly partisan approach, almost no one can resist giving him and his topic attention. I AM surprised the right wingers haven't jumped all over him like fleas on a dog. 🙂 They should, because he is ridiculing THEM.

-Robert
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They don't seem to have figured it out yet.....which is by far the best part of the joke IMO. 😀
 
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