The V5-6000 will be out....
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i like to get v5 6000 
may be to replaced my G400 robo do u know how much the prices will be??
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p3-800@1000 1.75v alpa pal35t
asus cusl2 1001.a
256mb hyundai pc133
asus gts2 v7700
p3-700@882 1.70v alpa pal30t
asus cuv4x 1005
128 ecc hyundai pc133
G400
may be to replaced my G400 robo do u know how much the prices will be?? ==================================
p3-800@1000 1.75v alpa pal35t
asus cusl2 1001.a
256mb hyundai pc133
asus gts2 v7700
p3-700@882 1.70v alpa pal30t
asus cuv4x 1005
128 ecc hyundai pc133
G400
Just wondering if 3dfx can hold the release date RoboTECH suggests...
I for myself am eager to see the first performance measurements in close combat with the GF2 Ultra...he,he,he...
Regarding the price both should be within the same range, eh?
I for myself am eager to see the first performance measurements in close combat with the GF2 Ultra...he,he,he...
Regarding the price both should be within the same range, eh?
Yes, but NV20 will be available quite soon and twice as powerful whereas 3DFX will need 2 more years to produce a new card... If 3DFX delays the V5 6000 once or twice more, it might get on the shelves together with NV20... Furthermore, are you sure your case is big enough to hold a V5 6000 ???
we ought to start up a nv20 vs 3dfx rampage thread soon, good debate
go check out that link on the web news of anandtech, those rumours are pretty good. and i know, rumours will be rumours, but it was 'rumoured' that the nv15 would come out with a core clock of 200 mhz, and were they right?
go check out that link on the web news of anandtech, those rumours are pretty good. and i know, rumours will be rumours, but it was 'rumoured' that the nv15 would come out with a core clock of 200 mhz, and were they right?
The 3dfx-guys have to move their f...in' a..es and invent some Nvidia-beating solution.
As a shareholder I can demand that (bu-huuu...)
Otherwise I will fire up the grill with my V3 ;(
As a shareholder I can demand that (bu-huuu...)
Otherwise I will fire up the grill with my V3 ;(
yeah, that 6000 is gonna be a mutha.
I have a full tower case, so it'll fit just fine. and I have no problems using an extra outlet.
I honestly have serious problems believing that the NV20 would be out by Christmas. That really would obliterate their GTS-U sales. Now that peeps "know" it is out, is ANYONE actually going to be crazy enough to spend their $$$ on a GTS-U?
Of course, it could be a "pre-emptive strike" on nvidia's part, because the 6000 is coming out real soon, and they figure "if we announce the NV20 for Christmas, who's going to buy a 6000?" Problem with that is that hardcore 3dfx fanatics, who are the ones most likely to buy the 6000, aren't going to give a rat's ass about the NV20, but nvidia fans sure will.
anyhooo....the box is on the 3dfx website. They posted the box about 2 weeks before the 5500 was released. They posted the box about 2 weeks before the (Grossly underpowered) 4500 was released. I'm looking at about the first or second week in October, I bet.
Should be interesting.
I have a full tower case, so it'll fit just fine. and I have no problems using an extra outlet.
I honestly have serious problems believing that the NV20 would be out by Christmas. That really would obliterate their GTS-U sales. Now that peeps "know" it is out, is ANYONE actually going to be crazy enough to spend their $$$ on a GTS-U?
Of course, it could be a "pre-emptive strike" on nvidia's part, because the 6000 is coming out real soon, and they figure "if we announce the NV20 for Christmas, who's going to buy a 6000?" Problem with that is that hardcore 3dfx fanatics, who are the ones most likely to buy the 6000, aren't going to give a rat's ass about the NV20, but nvidia fans sure will.
anyhooo....the box is on the 3dfx website. They posted the box about 2 weeks before the 5500 was released. They posted the box about 2 weeks before the (Grossly underpowered) 4500 was released. I'm looking at about the first or second week in October, I bet.
Should be interesting.
Blech. The board is probably a nice bit of engineering, but its too damn big and too power hungry for most of us. BTW - how hot will this thing get?
that is my only concern. Those of you who aren't into modding your cases might not want this thing, esepcially if you don't have a full tower
I'm not worried. Dat bitch will fit in my system with a good 6" to spare. <g>
I'm not worried. Dat bitch will fit in my system with a good 6" to spare. <g>
Well, let's face it, if you're going to be spending $500> on the video card, what's the big deal in spending an extra $100 or so to get a new Full tower case. Maybe 3dfx will do a bundle of some sort: Order a Voodoo 5 6000, and get a Full tower case to put it in for half price!
Seriously though, I'm looking forward to seeing the reviews just to see how this thing performs up against the GTS Ultra, but I really cannot see myself ever owning one of these cards
Seriously though, I'm looking forward to seeing the reviews just to see how this thing performs up against the GTS Ultra, but I really cannot see myself ever owning one of these cards
actually it really just depends what case you have. I measured out in my microatx case (currently has a voodoo5 5500) and the voodoo5 6000 would in theory fit in it with no modification. Then again i dont have $500..
the gts-u was a very good thing for nvidia in terms of the end user oem buyer, who only cares that he has the 'fastest' and 'biggest' rig out there. all the gts-u is, is a card which still lets them hang onto the speed crown if the v5-6000 doesnt beat it, just enough IMO to keep the reviewers thinking nVidia until the NV20's out. as for it's release date, im sure nVidia is up to it: they have delivered in the past with the NV15 and im sure they can do it again with the NV20..
overall, i dont like 3dfx's approach to high power gaming, as it obviously isnt a future worthy solution. just whacking more chips onto it is going to get tedious after a while and, although it was only for one generation, imagine just how much better the rampage would be if they had at least soem tech to carry over from the vsa-100, a lot less work for their engineers, and surely could mean the difference between an on-time generation and not. just look at nVidia: they have carried over tech from the GPU's they developed nearly a year ago now, and they sure as hell arent having any problems at the moment. even though their sucess isnt totally attributed to their planned future, i think it's just plain counter-productive to have two engineering teams developing 2 different chips. we are witnessing one of the fastest growing industries and companies in the world and even though their end solution might not be preffered to some, it works for the majority of us.
i just wish 3dfx would get off their butt and make something - FAST!!!
overall, i dont like 3dfx's approach to high power gaming, as it obviously isnt a future worthy solution. just whacking more chips onto it is going to get tedious after a while and, although it was only for one generation, imagine just how much better the rampage would be if they had at least soem tech to carry over from the vsa-100, a lot less work for their engineers, and surely could mean the difference between an on-time generation and not. just look at nVidia: they have carried over tech from the GPU's they developed nearly a year ago now, and they sure as hell arent having any problems at the moment. even though their sucess isnt totally attributed to their planned future, i think it's just plain counter-productive to have two engineering teams developing 2 different chips. we are witnessing one of the fastest growing industries and companies in the world and even though their end solution might not be preffered to some, it works for the majority of us.
i just wish 3dfx would get off their butt and make something - FAST!!!
Weyoun, you raise some good points, but you forget the BEST thing about SLI:
THROUGHPUT
V5-6000
11.7 GB/s memory throughput
GTS-U
7.4 GB/s memory throughput
an extra 4 GB of stuff can fit through that pipe each second. The GTS-U is a FAR FAR superior core to the VSA-100, no doubt. But you may as well be putting cheap tires on a Porsche. You're cutting yourself off
and 3dfx will be SLI'ing the Rampage. wh000000000t!!!!!!!!!!!
THROUGHPUT
V5-6000
11.7 GB/s memory throughput
GTS-U
7.4 GB/s memory throughput
an extra 4 GB of stuff can fit through that pipe each second. The GTS-U is a FAR FAR superior core to the VSA-100, no doubt. But you may as well be putting cheap tires on a Porsche. You're cutting yourself off
and 3dfx will be SLI'ing the Rampage. wh000000000t!!!!!!!!!!!
true, true, but it still isnt a very good overall solution in my eyes. i'd rather have an advanced core without the extra power overhead. I think the 5 volt connector that is needed for the v5 is a good idea, although yet again, a quick way out of a situation, just like whacking more chips on a pcb. i mean for gods sake, surely if they can make such good sli technology, they can make the board perhaps just a bit more efficient. damn, this keeps coming back to the corporate ethos os not adapting tech until the money or competition calls for it. no one has EVER designed a graphics card which, to be honest, is cheap, offers loads of features, and just plain kicks butt. i'd like to see just how many boards the competition would be selling then. But then again, how often do you see corporations undergoing a morality change? pie in the sky material... *sighs*
i didnt hear they were sli-ing the rampage... damn that'd kinda rule
i didnt hear they were sli-ing the rampage... damn that'd kinda rule
Robo-
You forgot the WORST part about SLI
Effective Throughput
Reading each texture four times from memory is going to take a huge bite out of the bandwith, I still have my doubts if it will be able to match the GF2U in actual useable memory bandwith, though it shouldn't matter too much with the low(in relative terms of course) fillrate of the V5 6K.
You forgot the WORST part about SLI
Effective Throughput
Reading each texture four times from memory is going to take a huge bite out of the bandwith, I still have my doubts if it will be able to match the GF2U in actual useable memory bandwith, though it shouldn't matter too much with the low(in relative terms of course) fillrate of the V5 6K.
Don't forget about the Radeon and there maxx version, i just traded a GTS 32meg for a Radeon 32meg and its a great card.
Weyoun:
<< i'd rather have an advanced core without the extra power overhead >>
agreed.
<< no one has EVER designed a graphics card which, to be honest, is cheap, offers loads of features, and just plain kicks butt >>
if it kicks butt, why offer it cheap when us fools will pay more $$ for it?
Ben:
<< it shouldn't matter too much with the low(in relative terms of course) fillrate of the V5 6K. >>
er...."low fillrate"? compared to what?
v5-6k : 1.46 MP/s, 1.46 MT/s
GTS-U : 1.00 MP/s, 2.00 MT/s
47% more fillrate while single-texturing, 27% less while multi-texturing. Hardly "low" in *any* terms, methinks.
<< i'd rather have an advanced core without the extra power overhead >>
agreed.
<< no one has EVER designed a graphics card which, to be honest, is cheap, offers loads of features, and just plain kicks butt >>
if it kicks butt, why offer it cheap when us fools will pay more $$ for it?
Ben:
<< it shouldn't matter too much with the low(in relative terms of course) fillrate of the V5 6K. >>
er...."low fillrate"? compared to what?
v5-6k : 1.46 MP/s, 1.46 MT/s
GTS-U : 1.00 MP/s, 2.00 MT/s
47% more fillrate while single-texturing, 27% less while multi-texturing. Hardly "low" in *any* terms, methinks.
and right now I'm known as "Member"
I see "Elite" member, "junior" member, "diamond" member
Does anand have anyone here known as "Big"?
I see "Elite" member, "junior" member, "diamond" member
Does anand have anyone here known as "Big"?
so with SLI is it only the textures that get duplicated in each chip's ram or the frame buffer too?
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The V5 6000 will have a horrendous amount of data duplication and this will suck the memory bandwidth dry. Not to mention that the 128 MB RAM on it will amount to 58.5 MB effective RAM due to this duplication.
Plus this board has no T&L or bump mapping. The GF2 Ultra costs $100 less, has more features and will almost certainly be faster. I'm sorry but I just can't see why anybody would pay $600 for slightly better FSAA and to play Unreal.
Not to mention the size, heat and power requirements of this card will put it out of the range of most people anyway, regardless of the cost.
Plus this board has no T&L or bump mapping. The GF2 Ultra costs $100 less, has more features and will almost certainly be faster. I'm sorry but I just can't see why anybody would pay $600 for slightly better FSAA and to play Unreal.
Not to mention the size, heat and power requirements of this card will put it out of the range of most people anyway, regardless of the cost.
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