The V is getting more grunt

[KentState]

I'm just messing around. It's a nice car. Not sure why you'd bother trying to make more power though. It isn't fast enough stock?

It's fast enough until you get used to it

 

[Tristicus]

It's fast enough until you get used to it

That is what I'm feeling with my Camaro now. I want to be able to spin my 275s through at least third. I get too much traction

 

[Fenixgoon]

It's fast enough until you get used to it

hehe yeah...on my bike im starting to wish i had a little more power. i like the new ninja1000 a lot. i really hope yamaha redesigns the FZ1 to compete with it better.

still, it probably wouldnt be until i've paid off my current bike that i'd upgrade.

 

[exdeath]

It's fast enough until you get used to it

This. Your own car never feels fast enough in the driver seat. The only sense of acceleration you have in your own car is either the size of the grin or the shade of green on your passenger's face.

 

[exdeath]

That is what I'm feeling with my Camaro now. I want to be able to spin my 275s through at least third. I get too much traction

No you don't. Spinning sucks. Might be fun at first, but it gets old having to pedal and struggle just to keep up with cars with 1/3 your power up to 60 before you can stomp it.

 

[kevman]

i thought you had a c6

 

[JJ650]

I think you're out of order on your mods

I would do this set first:
Long tube headers
LS9 cam
Cat-back exhaust
Custom Dyno tuning

After that, start screwing with the other stuff.

 

[jlee]

No you don't. Spinning sucks. Might be fun at first, but it gets old having to pedal and struggle just to keep up with cars with 1/3 your power up to 60 before you can stomp it.

I wish I could spin my 245's...


...so I could get 275's instead. :awe:

 

[JackBurton]

That is what I'm feeling with my Camaro now. I want to be able to spin my 275s through at least third. I get too much traction

Don't you have a V6 Camaro?

 

[exdeath]

I think you're out of order on your mods

I would do this set first:
Long tube headers
LS9 cam
Cat-back exhaust
Custom Dyno tuning

After that, start screwing with the other stuff.

It's supercharged. A pulley is going to be the single most beneficial mod of all. Typically you start with simply a pulley and tune where you will see the biggest increase. Then do intake, exhaust, and cam as support mods as they become restrictions at higher boost levels.

And while a cam is a huge mod on a standard LS series naturally aspirated engine, it's much less of a mod when the cylinders are being force fed. In fact too much cam is a bad thing on a supercharged car as you just boost your fuel/air charge right out the exhaust valve on the top of the exhaust to intake stroke.

 

[alfa147x]

Yeah I understand what you guys are feeling. I just got accustomed to ridding my 50cc moped around and now I want a 70cc. WTF?!?! Am I gonna want a real motorcycle next?!?!

 

[punjabiplaya]

Yeah I understand what you guys are feeling. I just got accustomed to ridding my 50cc moped around and now I want a 70cc. WTF?!?! Am I gonna want a real motorcycle next?!?!

damn hipsters

 

[alkemyst]

I think you're out of order on your mods

I would do this set first:
Long tube headers
LS9 cam
Cat-back exhaust
Custom Dyno tuning

After that, start screwing with the other stuff.

The car is supercharged. Usually things that 'touch' the supercharger and intake (with the supporting tune) give the best bang for buck. D3Cadillac.com has some 'power level' builds and cams and headers come a bit later.

+35HP (~$1k)
◦D-Tronic Tuning Module
◦D3 Stage 1 Intake System
◦K&N Air Filter

+45HP
◦D-Tronic Tuning Module
◦D3 Stage 1 Intake System
◦K&N Air Filter
◦Exhaust System (Choice of Corsa, Borla, Billy Boat)

+65HP (~$3k)
◦D3 Intake System w/Heat Shield
◦Genuine K&N Air Filter
◦ø2.55" Upper Supercharger Pulley
◦Corsa Exhaust
◦D3 Performance Tuning

+75HP
◦D3 Intake System w/Heat Shield
◦Genuine K&N Air Filter
◦D3 Stage 1 Performance Pulley System w/ø9.0" Pulley
◦Corsa Exhaust
◦D3 Performance Tuning

+100HP
◦D3 Intake System w/Heat Shield
◦Genuine K&N Air Filter
◦D3 Stage 1 Performance Pulley System w/ø9.0" Pulley
◦D3/Torque Master Quad Tipped Spark Plugs
◦MSD Insulated Spark Plug Wires
◦D3 Front Mount Intercooler
◦D3 20 Gallon per minute Intercooler Pump Upgrade
◦Corsa Exhaust
◦D3 Performance Tuning

+130HP (~$6.5k)
◦D3 Intake System w/Heat Shield
◦Genuine K&N Air Filter
◦D3 Stage 1 Performance Pulley System w/ø9.0" Pulley
◦D3/Torque Master Quad Tipped Spark Plugs
◦MSD Insulated Spark Plug Wires
◦D3 Front Mount Intercooler
◦D3 20 Gallon per minute Intercooler Pump Upgrade
◦Kooks X-Pipe
◦Corsa Exhaust
◦D3 Performance Tuning

+160HP
◦D3 Air Intake System w/Heat Shield
◦Genuine K&N Air Filter
◦D3 Stage 2 Performance Pulley System w/ø9.5" Pulley
◦Upgraded Fuel Injectors
◦D3 Supercharger Lid Spacer
◦D3 Methonal Injection System
◦D3 Front Mount Intercooler
◦D3 20 Gallon Per Minute Intercooler Pump Upgrade
◦D3/Torque Master Quad Tip Spark Plugs
◦MSD Insulated Spark Plug Wires
◦Kooks Long Tube Headers
◦Kooks X Pipe
◦Corsa Exhaust
◦D3 Performance Tuning

+175HP
◦D3 Air Intake System w/Heat Shield
◦Genuine K&N Air Filter
◦D3 Stage 2 Performance Pulley System w/ø9.5" Pulley
◦Upgraded Fuel Injectors
◦D3 Supercharger Lid Spacer
◦D3 Blueprinted Blower Snout
◦D3 ø102mm Billet Throttle Body
◦D3 Billet Throttle Body Spacer
◦D3 Methonal Injection System
◦D3 Front Mount Intercooler
◦D3 20 Gallon Per Minute Intercooler Pump Upgrade
◦D3/Torque Master Quad Tip Spark Plugs
◦MSD Insulated Spark Plug Wires
◦MSD Ignition Coil Packs
◦Kooks Long Tube Headers
◦Kooks X Pipe
◦Corsa Exhaust
◦D3 Performance Tuning

+210HP
◦D3 Competition Head Package
◦D3 Camshaft
◦D3 Air Intake System w/Heat Shield
◦Genuine K&N Air Filter
◦D3 Stage 2 Performance Pulley System w/ø9.5" Pulley
◦Upgraded Fuel Injectors
◦D3 Supercharger Lid Spacer
◦D3 Blueprinted Blower Snout
◦D3 ø102mm Billet Throttle Body
◦D3 Billet Throttle Body Spacer
◦D3 Methonal Injection System
◦D3 Front Mount Intercooler
◦D3 20 Gallon Per Minute Intercooler Pump Upgrade
◦D3/Torque Master Quad Tip Spark Plugs
◦MSD Insulated Spark Plug Wires
◦MSD Ignition Coil Packs
◦Kooks Long Tube Headers
◦Kooks X Pipe
◦Corsa Exhaust
◦D3 Performance Tuning

+240HP (~$19k)
◦D3 Competition Head Package
◦D3 Camshaft
◦D3 Air Intake System w/Heat Shield
◦Genuine K&N Air Filter
◦D3 Stage 3 Performance Pulley System w/ø9.0" Lower Pulley + ø2.55" Upper Pulley
◦Upgraded Fuel Injectors
◦Kenne Bell Boost-A-Pump
◦D3 Supercharger Lid Spacer
◦D3 Blueprinted Blower Snout
◦D3 ø102mm Billet Throttle Body
◦D3 Billet Throttle Body Spacer
◦D3 Methonal Injection System
◦D3 Front Mount Intercooler
◦D3 20 Gallon Per Minute Intercooler Pump Upgrade
◦D3/Torque Master Quad Tip Spark Plugs
◦MSD Insulated Spark Plug Wires
◦MSD Ignition Coil Packs
◦Kooks Long Tube Headers
◦Kooks X Pipe
◦Corsa Exhaust
◦D3 Performance Tuning

 

[jlee]

They want to sell you meth injection at 160hp+?

Seems like overkill to me...I'd be pretty disappointed if it was really necessary.

 

[JJ650]

It's supercharged. A pulley is going to be the single most beneficial mod of all. Typically you start with simply a pulley and tune where you will see the biggest increase. Then do intake, exhaust, and cam as support mods as they become restrictions at higher boost levels.

And while a cam is a huge mod on a standard LS series naturally aspirated engine, it's much less of a mod when the cylinders are being force fed. In fact too much cam is a bad thing on a supercharged car as you just boost your fuel/air charge right out the exhaust valve on the top of the exhaust to intake stroke.

DOH! Forgot it was S/C

my bad

 

[Tristicus]

They want to sell you meth injection at 160hp+?

Seems like overkill to me...I'd be pretty disappointed if it was really necessary.

160hp on top of 550hp already? Pretty large jump.

 

[MotF Bane]

No you don't. Spinning sucks. Might be fun at first, but it gets old having to pedal and struggle just to keep up with cars with 1/3 your power up to 60 before you can stomp it.

Then it's time to get wider tires! And the circle continues. :awe:

 

[alkemyst]

They want to sell you meth injection at 160hp+?

Seems like overkill to me...I'd be pretty disappointed if it was really necessary.

Reliability...when you have paid $50k+ for your daily driver you don't want to keep on redoing the same jobs you did the day before.

 

[Homer Simpson]

They want to sell you meth injection at 160hp+?

Seems like overkill to me...I'd be pretty disappointed if it was really necessary.

meth or alky injection is awesome for a forced induction motor. lets you run boost levels and WOT timing that would ordinarily require race gas. ive run alky on my grand national before. nothing like driving around town with 24lbs of boost on 91 gas

 

[alkemyst]

all it takes is to be the victim of a broken ring land once due to detonation and you'll swear by whatever it takes to stop that economically.

Best bet is to go forged or good hypers if you don't like the knock on startup...not everyone wants to spend the dough on a new engine rebuild.

 

[Howard]

all it takes is to be the victim of a broken ring land once due to detonation and you'll swear by whatever it takes to stop that economically.

Best bet is to go forged or good hypers if you don't like the knock on startup...not everyone wants to spend the dough on a new engine rebuild.

Are you talking about piston slap? How would replacing cast pistons with forged pistons (of the same crown shape) affect knock?

 

[jlee]

160hp on top of 550hp already? Pretty large jump.

If a Cobra can put down over 600whp on 91, I'd expect newer technology to be able to do the same. I don't disagree that it's a great safety net, but I'm a bit surprised to see it there.

meth or alky injection is awesome for a forced induction motor. lets you run boost levels and WOT timing that would ordinarily require race gas. ive run alky on my grand national before. nothing like driving around town with 24lbs of boost on 91 gas

I'm quite familiar - I'm considering it after I move out west since I'll go from good 93 to CA 91.

Reliability...when you have paid $50k+ for your daily driver you don't want to keep on redoing the same jobs you did the day before.

Because if you spend $10k on your daily driver, you do want to keep on redoing the same jobs you did the day before?

 

[exar333]

The car is supercharged. Usually things that 'touch' the supercharger and intake (with the supporting tune) give the best bang for buck. D3Cadillac.com has some 'power level' builds and cams and headers come a bit later.

+35HP (~$1k)
◦D-Tronic Tuning Module
◦D3 Stage 1 Intake System
◦K&N Air Filter
+45HP
◦D-Tronic Tuning Module
◦D3 Stage 1 Intake System
◦K&N Air Filter ◦Exhaust System (Choice of Corsa, Borla, Billy Boat)

+65HP (~$3k)
◦D3 Intake System w/Heat Shield
◦Genuine K&N Air Filter ◦ø2.55" Upper Supercharger Pulley
◦Corsa Exhaust
◦D3 Performance Tuning

+75HP
◦D3 Intake System w/Heat Shield
◦Genuine K&N Air Filter ◦D3 Stage 1 Performance Pulley System w/ø9.0" Pulley
◦Corsa Exhaust
◦D3 Performance Tuning

+100HP
◦D3 Intake System w/Heat Shield
◦Genuine K&N Air Filter ◦D3 Stage 1 Performance Pulley System w/ø9.0" Pulley
◦D3/Torque Master Quad Tipped Spark Plugs
◦MSD Insulated Spark Plug Wires
◦D3 Front Mount Intercooler
◦D3 20 Gallon per minute Intercooler Pump Upgrade
◦Corsa Exhaust
◦D3 Performance Tuning

+130HP (~$6.5k)
◦D3 Intake System w/Heat Shield
◦Genuine K&N Air Filter ◦D3 Stage 1 Performance Pulley System w/ø9.0" Pulley
◦D3/Torque Master Quad Tipped Spark Plugs
◦MSD Insulated Spark Plug Wires
◦D3 Front Mount Intercooler
◦D3 20 Gallon per minute Intercooler Pump Upgrade
◦Kooks X-Pipe
◦Corsa Exhaust
◦D3 Performance Tuning

+160HP
◦D3 Air Intake System w/Heat Shield
◦Genuine K&N Air Filter ◦D3 Stage 2 Performance Pulley System w/ø9.5" Pulley
◦Upgraded Fuel Injectors
◦D3 Supercharger Lid Spacer
◦D3 Methonal Injection System
◦D3 Front Mount Intercooler
◦D3 20 Gallon Per Minute Intercooler Pump Upgrade
◦D3/Torque Master Quad Tip Spark Plugs
◦MSD Insulated Spark Plug Wires
◦Kooks Long Tube Headers
◦Kooks X Pipe
◦Corsa Exhaust
◦D3 Performance Tuning

+175HP
◦D3 Air Intake System w/Heat Shield
◦Genuine K&N Air Filter ◦D3 Stage 2 Performance Pulley System w/ø9.5" Pulley
◦Upgraded Fuel Injectors
◦D3 Supercharger Lid Spacer
◦D3 Blueprinted Blower Snout
◦D3 ø102mm Billet Throttle Body
◦D3 Billet Throttle Body Spacer
◦D3 Methonal Injection System
◦D3 Front Mount Intercooler
◦D3 20 Gallon Per Minute Intercooler Pump Upgrade
◦D3/Torque Master Quad Tip Spark Plugs
◦MSD Insulated Spark Plug Wires
◦MSD Ignition Coil Packs
◦Kooks Long Tube Headers
◦Kooks X Pipe
◦Corsa Exhaust
◦D3 Performance Tuning

+210HP
◦D3 Competition Head Package
◦D3 Camshaft
◦D3 Air Intake System w/Heat Shield
◦Genuine K&N Air Filter ◦D3 Stage 2 Performance Pulley System w/ø9.5" Pulley
◦Upgraded Fuel Injectors
◦D3 Supercharger Lid Spacer
◦D3 Blueprinted Blower Snout
◦D3 ø102mm Billet Throttle Body
◦D3 Billet Throttle Body Spacer
◦D3 Methonal Injection System
◦D3 Front Mount Intercooler
◦D3 20 Gallon Per Minute Intercooler Pump Upgrade
◦D3/Torque Master Quad Tip Spark Plugs
◦MSD Insulated Spark Plug Wires
◦MSD Ignition Coil Packs
◦Kooks Long Tube Headers
◦Kooks X Pipe
◦Corsa Exhaust
◦D3 Performance Tuning

+240HP (~$19k)
◦D3 Competition Head Package
◦D3 Camshaft
◦D3 Air Intake System w/Heat Shield
◦Genuine K&N Air Filter ◦D3 Stage 3 Performance Pulley System w/ø9.0" Lower Pulley + ø2.55" Upper Pulley
◦Upgraded Fuel Injectors
◦Kenne Bell Boost-A-Pump
◦D3 Supercharger Lid Spacer
◦D3 Blueprinted Blower Snout
◦D3 ø102mm Billet Throttle Body
◦D3 Billet Throttle Body Spacer
◦D3 Methonal Injection System
◦D3 Front Mount Intercooler
◦D3 20 Gallon Per Minute Intercooler Pump Upgrade
◦D3/Torque Master Quad Tip Spark Plugs
◦MSD Insulated Spark Plug Wires
◦MSD Ignition Coil Packs
◦Kooks Long Tube Headers
◦Kooks X Pipe
◦Corsa Exhaust
◦D3 Performance Tuning

Why would you buy a CTS-V, spend money to upgrade it, and include a K&N filter that lets in an absurb amount of dust into your engine?

 

[alkemyst]

Are you talking about piston slap? How would replacing cast pistons with forged pistons (of the same crown shape) affect knock?

Piston slap.

 

[Howard]

Piston slap.

Right.

I would think that forged pistons would most likely add to, not reduce, piston slap since forged pistons tend to be used in hotter (more powerful) applications, which necessitates more gap for the piston's expansion.