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The Usual Suspects *SPOILERS*

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MrCodeDude

Lifer
First off, great movie. Would have never expected the ending.

But I still have questions.

1. Why did Keaton leave Verbal/Keyser back? Did Keaton know Verbal was Keyser Söze?

2. Since Verbal is Keyser Söze, what really happened on the boat? How much of the story was fake? Did McManus, Keaton, Fenster and Hockney really exist or were they also made up? Who killed all of the messengers body guards?

3. What happened to Fenster? He just died?
-- mrcodedude
 
It's been a while since I've seen it, but I'll toss in my $.02.

1. He left him back because he felt sorry for him. He figured he'd have a disadvantage or he'd slow them down because of his handicap.

2. I assume most of what happened on the boat was "true," just altered. Most of the murders were probably committed by Soze himself, or perhaps even "Kobyashi."

3. Don't remember.

Again, it's been a long time since I've seen it, so I may be wrong.
 
Originally posted by: bradruth
2. I assume most of what happened on the boat was "true," just altered. Most of the murders were probably committed by Soze himself, or perhaps even "Kobyashi."
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Kobaryashi was a made up character though. He got the name from the bottom of the mug.
-- mrcodedude

 
1. I always thought it was because Keaton had a soft spot for Verbal and at the end didn't think he'd be much help and could only get himself hurt.

2. I guess there's no way to know how much of the story was fake.

3. Don't remember.

I have the DVD, but I haven't watched this movie in like two years. So, I don't really remember that much beyond that it was an awesome movie.
 
Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
Originally posted by: bradruth
2. I assume most of what happened on the boat was "true," just altered. Most of the murders were probably committed by Soze himself, or perhaps even "Kobyashi."
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Kobaryashi was a made up character though. He got the name from the bottom of the mug.
-- mrcodedude
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His NAME was made up, he wasn't. We saw him drive Soze away from the police station after the story was told. We know the guy exists, but his name is unknown.
 
3. Fenster was killed by soze or his lawyer as he tried to flee the night after the proposal from 'kobayashi'
 
Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
Originally posted by: bradruth
2. I assume most of what happened on the boat was "true," just altered. Most of the murders were probably committed by Soze himself, or perhaps even "Kobyashi."
Click to expand...
Kobaryashi was a made up character though. He got the name from the bottom of the mug.
-- mrcodedude
Click to expand...

His NAME was made up, he wasn't. We saw him drive Soze away from the police station after the story was told. We know the guy exists, but his name is unknown.
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Unknown and irrelevant.
 
Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
Originally posted by: bradruth
2. I assume most of what happened on the boat was "true," just altered. Most of the murders were probably committed by Soze himself, or perhaps even "Kobyashi."
Click to expand...
Kobaryashi was a made up character though. He got the name from the bottom of the mug.
-- mrcodedude
Click to expand...

His NAME was made up, he wasn't. We saw him drive Soze away from the police station after the story was told. We know the guy exists, but his name is unknown.
Click to expand...
So did Kobaryashi really deliver the group those envelopes with all their data in them?
-- mrcodedude

 
Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
Originally posted by: bradruth
2. I assume most of what happened on the boat was "true," just altered. Most of the murders were probably committed by Soze himself, or perhaps even "Kobyashi."
Click to expand...
Kobaryashi was a made up character though. He got the name from the bottom of the mug.
-- mrcodedude
Click to expand...

His NAME was made up, he wasn't. We saw him drive Soze away from the police station after the story was told. We know the guy exists, but his name is unknown.
Click to expand...
So did Kobaryashi really deliver the group those envelopes with all their data in them?
-- mrcodedude
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Seemingly.

 
Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
Originally posted by: bradruth
2. I assume most of what happened on the boat was "true," just altered. Most of the murders were probably committed by Soze himself, or perhaps even "Kobyashi."
Click to expand...
Kobaryashi was a made up character though. He got the name from the bottom of the mug.
-- mrcodedude
Click to expand...

His NAME was made up, he wasn't. We saw him drive Soze away from the police station after the story was told. We know the guy exists, but his name is unknown.
Click to expand...
So did Kobaryashi really deliver the group those envelopes with all their data in them?
-- mrcodedude
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Yes, that's probably true.
 
Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
And what was the deal with the broad? Keaton's attorney/girl-friend and what not? I didn't get that part.
-- mrcodedude
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That was probably just a tool of the plot to put the focus on Keaton and make the audience think he's Soze. It just accentuates the twist.
 
Yeah - she is a real person but focused on much more than neccessary. The best part of the movie is 90% of it could be true or 10% of it could be true. That's the whole point of the scene when we see the parts of the tack board that make up the story. I think the structure of the events are true wrapped with a lot of BS put on by Soze.

I love that movie. Best cult-classic ever.
 
Did anyone get the movie? We, as an audience, have no idea what was true and what was made up (from looking at the board, etc.).. That's why some people hate the movie - "verbal" being kyzer soze and also being the story teller could have easily been telling a 100% b.s. story (or the truth).. Since the voice of the narrator is questionable then we can't really be sure what is true or what is false or why someone was motivated to do something or not- what we see is the "story" and not necessarily what happened..
 
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