The US will hand 1 billion worth of aid to the Ukraine.

Hugo Drax

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So that means we will need to borrow more to help others. We have no business involved In their affairs yet we keep going deeper into debt for other peoples problems.
 

BUnit1701

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So that means we will need to borrow more to help others. We have no business involved In their affairs yet we keep going deeper into debt for other peoples problems.

Its not real debt, because the US FedGov is infallible. /liberal
 

sunzt

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So that means we will need to borrow more to help others. We have no business involved In their affairs yet we keep going deeper into debt for other peoples problems.

Source?

It's probably coming from the State Department, which has line items in their budget for foreign aid things.
 

Genx87

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I guess this was the warning Obama delivered about crossing lines? If you shoot your civilians we will only hand you 1 billion vs 2!
 

Thebobo

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That will never be paid back. Another liability on our balance sheet.

We keep having to cut programs in the US and raise taxes and yet we keep borrowing to help fix other peoples problems.

We have no business getting deeper deeper in debt for this BS.
Let the Europeans and Russians do it.

Europeans are eyeing 2 billion and the Russians 3 billion.

The U.S. aid would be part of a planned massive international assistance package that was expected to include European contributions as well as loans from global financial institutions.
 

Fern

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Our carrot is bigger than Putin's (Russia)

(Oops. I see Putin is offering $3 bil, his carrot is now bigger.)

Fern
 
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fskimospy

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I guess this was the warning Obama delivered about crossing lines? If you shoot your civilians we will only hand you 1 billion vs 2!

You realize the government in power in the Ukraine now is different than the one that was shooting civilians, right?
 

Hugo Drax

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Europeans are eyeing 2 billion and the Russians 3 billion.

Not our business. now we are having to put 1 billion of liabilities on our balance sheet so that others can loan risk free and we are on the hook.

We keep cutting services, raising taxes and we keep repeating the same mistakes.
 

dainthomas

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I didn't realize that when the VA guaranteed my home loan, they were giving me free money. Yippee!
 

Hugo Drax

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I didn't realize that when the VA guaranteed my home loan, they were giving me free money. Yippee!

You got nothing free. You default and your liable. The Bank though collected a risk free rate of return and the taxpayers got the liability and loss. Which has to be collected by the taxpayer.

Socialize the losses, privatize the gains. It happened during the big bank meltdown.
 

michal1980

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democrats supporting this handout while arguing we need to cut our military to reduce our influence in the world, need to be taken out back.
 

fskimospy

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You got nothing free. You default and your liable. The Bank though collected a risk free rate of return and the taxpayers got the liability and loss. Which has to be collected by the taxpayer.

Socialize the losses, privatize the gains. It happened during the big bank meltdown.

You are calling loan guarantees to a government privatized gains? Loan guarantees are about the cheapest kind of foreign aid you can give.
 

Stewox

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Ofcourse it's a loan, you thing they're going to just give them the money ?
 

Gintaras

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Our carrot is bigger than Putin's (Russia)

Fern

Don't you think, that "your carrot" getting pretty much rotten?

You have just money printing machine, Russia has resources - oil, gas, metals...etc...

What if "your carrot" will rot all the way?

Don't forget about China too...
 

Gintaras

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So that means we will need to borrow more to help others. We have no business involved In their affairs yet we keep going deeper into debt for other peoples problems.

OP should say - I pay for music - you'll dance....

That's what "aid" is all about...