The US, the CIA, and democracy

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chucky2

Lifer
Dec 9, 1999
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Even if they were non-functional, he shouldn't have had them. The other three scientists he mentions shouldn't have theirs. Even non-functional complex parts can be used as templates to make new functional parts. The UN didn't find them. We didn't find them. Had the Iraqi scientist not come forward, we'd still have never found them.

How was Bush to know? I don't know, given that none of that information reached Bush, that'd be pretty hard, wouldn't it?

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Craig234

Lifer
May 1, 2006
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The topic of this thread is that Harry Truman (and JFK) were right: we should eliminate the operational function of the CIA and return it to only information.

Its legacy of a worldwide effort of pursuing bad activities, against democracy, against our values, as a 'private and secret force' of the President unaccountable, is terrible.

We should not be having it organizing, interfering in elections, assassinating, and doing other such things in our name. It is immoral and un-American of us to do those things.

Our own freedoms are ultimately going to be in conflict with the 'security state empire', if we want our freedoms it's time to get rid of these things.