The US Labor Force: One Foot in the Third World

Ferocious

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You see it everywhere around you.

Quite depressing really. I mean we can only have so many nurses and medical assistants...right?

This guy nails it right on the head.

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EatSpam

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<red stater>Its ok. We have Jesus on our side and Iraq is getting safer every day! Remember kids, the biggest threat to you is from Terruhists. Don't worry that daddy and mommy lost their jobs and that you're living in grandma's basement! Pray!</red stater>
 

Engineer

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Sits and waits for ones to jump in and say that this isn't happening and the prosperity is just beginning.

You can't sell anything if you don't make it.

Trade and budget deficits are slowing erroding us from within. If the cheap financing stops, the slide begins.....

Who am I kidding, we all know this isn't happening, right?
 

Jhhnn

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The part Roberts left out is how huge federal deficits carry the illusion at home and prop up the dollar abroad, encouraging offshoring.

Then there's agricultural and forest management policy- encouraging the export of raw materials rather than value added finished goods...
 

charrison

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IF his complaint is that not enough people work making things, maybe we should throw out the robots and go back to hand making everything.

OR we make an environment suitable for manufacturing here.
1. unions that are there to protect workers, not soak the company
2. reasonable tax laws. Startups in china are only taxed 10%
3. reasonable enviromental regs as no regs exists in china.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: charrison
IF his complaint is that not enough people work making things, maybe we should throw out the robots and go back to hand making everything.

OR we make an environment suitable for manufacturing here.
1. unions that are there to protect workers, not soak the company
2. reasonable tax laws. Startups in china are only taxed 10%
3. reasonable enviromental regs as no regs exists in china.

I was thinking about this later in the day. I was thinking about the American worker's productivity vs offshore. One person running a robot cell can do the work of 20 people with better quality and less ergonomic stress. Our 10 million jobs in manufacturing may equate to 80 million elsewhere in the world.

However, this does not excuse the trade deficit which is a true indicator that we're being outproduced overseas and brought in (Unless oil accounts for more the entire trade deficit which could be possible).

Oh, and I would rather have 1 worker running the robot (along with engineers, etc), than the entire country of Mexico or China making the damn things by hand. Yes, I'm very serious!

 

charrison

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: charrison
IF his complaint is that not enough people work making things, maybe we should throw out the robots and go back to hand making everything.

OR we make an environment suitable for manufacturing here.
1. unions that are there to protect workers, not soak the company
2. reasonable tax laws. Startups in china are only taxed 10%
3. reasonable enviromental regs as no regs exists in china.

I was thinking about this later in the day. I was thinking about the American worker's productivity vs offshore. One person running a robot cell can do the work of 20 people with better quality and less ergonomic stress. Our 10 million jobs in manufacturing may equate to 80 million elsewhere in the world.

However, this does not excuse the trade deficit which is a true indicator that we're being outproduced overseas and brought in (Unless oil accounts for more the entire trade deficit which could be possible).

Oh, and I would rather have 1 worker running the robot (along with engineers, etc), than the entire country of Mexico or China making the damn things by hand. Yes, I'm very serious!



Oil is a large chunk of the trade defecit,but it does not mean we are being outperformed.

What are we supposed to do with all the cash that foreign countries invest in the US economy?
 

boredhokie

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Originally posted by: charrison
IF his complaint is that not enough people work making things, maybe we should throw out the robots and go back to hand making everything.

OR we make an environment suitable for manufacturing here.
1. unions that are there to protect workers, not soak the company
2. reasonable tax laws. Startups in china are only taxed 10%
3. reasonable enviromental regs as no regs exists in china.

China has no environmental regs because they have no regard for human life or the environment. I think environmental regs are reasonable, unless you want an environment that is more similar to the industrial revolution, which is where China is at right now.