The US is at War with Muslims - and is that really a problem?

[Freshgeardude]

Tell that to the folks in the occupied territories. Tell that to the folks in Lebonon still dealing with Israeli cluster bombs (war crime, that). Pretending they aren't being oppressed under the Israeli boot doesn't make it not so and it doesn't absolve you of your guilt in supporting the crime. Muslim terrorists are evil. Israeli terrorists are evil.

tell that to the jews who were killed from rocket attacks by hezbollah after they kidnapped soldiers in 2006 and caused a war between themselves and Israel.

just because israel is stronger, does not make them at fault.

if you go back and check history, you will see that the jews never started the conflicts, they only had to deal with them.

pre-1948 conflicts arose after palestinian jealously started raids on jewish settlements causing the jews to create groups like the haganah.

1948, 7 arab nations attacked israel.

1967, egypt moved 100,000 to the border.

1973, surprise attack by arabs.

The wall people cry about that cuts into west bank's farm land was put up to stop suicide bombers from crossing into israel.

Gaza is on a legally defined military blockade (similar to the cuban missile crisis) to stop the transfer of arms and other weaponry into the land. the same people that cry for open borders are the ones lighting the fuses of the missiles they fire into israel.

Israel's entire military, known as the Israel Defense Forces, have only acted after being attacked.

Gilad Shalit, a POW in Gaza was taken from an ambush. Israel has every right to carpet bomb gaza until they get him back, but they dont because they are showing remorse.


Stop being so closed minded. Everything I said above can be checked if you'd like.

 

[Steeplerot]

If you guys rely on the media to bring these into your consciousness, then you indeed you will not see them. But, that's your problem. If you take the initiative to look, you will find them.


This P&N forum is so biased against muslims its not even funny.

A big problem with this forum, people here are ate up with their own agendas. The new freerepublic lite conduit of hate radio talking points.

On further reading"
There are some real fascist turds in here. This place has sunk pretty low. Stormfront lite?

 

[LunarRay]

Iranian president Mahmud Ahmadinejad calls President Obama and tells him, "Barack, I had a wonderful dream last night. I could see America , the whole beautiful country, and on each house I saw a banner."

"What did it say on the banners?" Obama asks.


Mahmud replies,


"UNITED STATES OF IRAN ."


Obama says, "You know, Mahmud, I am really happy you called, because believe it or not, last night I had a similar dream. I could see all of Tehran , and it was more beautiful than ever, and on each house flew an enormous banner."

"What did it say on the banners?" Mahmud asks.

Obama replies,
"I don't know. I can't read Hebrew."

​

 

[Freshgeardude]

Iranian president Mahmud Ahmadinejad calls President Obama and tells him, "Barack, I had a wonderful dream last night. I could see America , the whole beautiful country, and on each house I saw a banner."

"What did it say on the banners?" Obama asks.


Mahmud replies,


"UNITED STATES OF IRAN ."


Obama says, "You know, Mahmud, I am really happy you called, because believe it or not, last night I had a similar dream. I could see all of Tehran , and it was more beautiful than ever, and on each house flew an enormous banner."

"What did it say on the banners?" Mahmud asks.

Obama replies,
"I don't know. I can't read Hebrew."

​

teehee

 

[Rezag3000]

What were they resisting??? I believe the Left Wing apologists and Muslim apologists always say that terrorists are "resisting" Israels occupation of "Palestinian" "lands", America's influence in the Middle East, and American culture.

1. America has chosen its side in the Israel vs Palestinian conflict. If Muslims don't like that, and want to engage in terrorism in response, then I guess America IS at war with Muslims. The fact of the matter is, both sides in Israel/Palestine have done wrong, and Americans would much rather side with a Western-like democracy that values it's own people's lives, values diversity, freedom, etc.

2. If America self-reduced its influence in the Middle East and abandoned its ally regimes (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Jordan, Egypt, etc.) those nations would descend into Islamist chaos and become like Syria, Iran, Taliban Afghanistan, etc. Is living like a primitive really what Muslims want?

3. Many Muslims do hate American culture and values, things such as happiness, freedom, respecting diverse people, worshiping the God of your choosing, etc. America should not change these values to appease some backwards Muslims.

So you think Saudi Arabia is civilized whereas Iran is not? I'm not getting into the argument of this thread, but that notion is not correct.

 

[Freshgeardude]

So you think Saudi Arabia is civilized whereas Iran is not? I'm not getting into the argument of this thread, but that notion is not correct.

The US in allies with SA for economic reasons, not ideological.

The US is allies with israel for probably both, since Israel is a leading country in innovations.

look at china. its a communist country, where a few decades ago we'd always be one button away from wiping out the world with a war with one.