The US gives 3-4 billion each year to Israel

micrometers

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Why? They're rich. There are plenty of countries in africa for whom just 100 million would increase life expectency by like 10 years.
 

klinc

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Africa is a shit hole. Those money will just go down in some politicians offshore bank accounts. I will rather burn money than to donate it to any African country. Israel is not rich. They got the shittest part of the desert and they have been in a war the last 30 to 40 years. They need funding
 

Agent11

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Ya because there isn't any corruption in Africa right?

Personally I don't know why the US government gives aid to any other government, it isn't like we are running a surplus and don't have any problems of our own.
 

klinc

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But you don't have any problems of your own basically. If you look at the problems in the USA you can say you got it very good compared to the rest of the world.
 

Broheim

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Why? They're rich. There are plenty of countries in africa for whom just 100 million would increase life expectency by like 10 years.

the western world has been pumping aid into Africa for decades, it hasn't made a damn difference.
 

Whiskey16

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Ahh yes, a mention of Africa and the regular bigots come out for a generalised depraving rant against the dark continent and all those in it. Aid does nothing, eh? Not a soul benefitted....not a government nor society has improved from past status? No benefits to you?

Typical prejudicial ignorance and supremacist glee.

...Then missing the OP's point -- or possibly not. Ambivalent acceptance/support for exceptional funding to Israel.
 

JEDIYoda

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Ahh yes, a mention of Africa and the regular bigots come out for a generalised depraving rant against the dark continent and all those in it. Aid does nothing, eh? Not a soul benefitted....not a government nor society has improved from past status? No benefits to you? --- yep and the mention was right on!!

Typical prejudicial ignorance and supremacist glee.-- typical you denying the truth@@!@!

...Then missing the OP's point -- or possibly not. Ambivalent acceptance/support for exceptional funding to Israel. -- Op had no point other than to try to say we shouldn`t give any aid to our closet ally in the middle east!!
Hate Israel much??
 

gevorg

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$3-4 billion is nothing, US economic and geopolitical involvement with Israel is much much higher...
 

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Aid often involves buying from USA. Military aid can involve increasing production to reduce prices or keeping production going to avoid start up recosting.
Or buying surplus (grain to avoid storage/waste, etc)

Aid also involves political blackmail.
I will pay you to do what I want. Simple. Even a caveman..

Corruption in the sense "pay me or you can not be here or do business here."

Aid to North Korea to inflence politics.
Aid to Israel to influence politics.
Aid to ..
 

Charles Kozierok

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In case you actually wanted a serious answer...

Nearly all of the aid is of the military variety. We provide it because:

1. For better or worse, Israel is by far our best military ally in the region. We have a vested interest in the country's security, even if we don't like everything they do.
2. The pro-Israel lobby in Washington is powerful.
3. The pro-military-hardware-contractor lobby in Washington is powerful.

There are others, but those are the main ones.
 

Nintendesert

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In case you actually wanted a serious answer...

Nearly all of the aid is of the military variety. We provide it because:

1. For better or worse, Israel is by far our best military ally in the region. We have a vested interest in the country's security, even if we don't like everything they do.
2. The pro-Israel lobby in Washington is powerful.
3. The pro-military-hardware-contractor lobby in Washington is powerful.

There are others, but those are the main ones.



Israel provides a great testing grounds for some stuff like the interceptor systems. The stuff that's capable now due to that prolonged conflict are leagues better than what we used just a few decades ago.
 

EagleKeeper

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Israel provides a great testing grounds for some stuff like the interceptor systems. The stuff that's capable now due to that prolonged conflict are leagues better than what we used just a few decades ago.

Up until 1990, Israel was a great supplier of Soviet military hardware.

Also a test bed against Soviet military doctrines.

Some of the success in GW-1 was because of that knowledge.

Lives and equipment were not wasted because of known weaknesses.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Ahh yes, a mention of Africa and the regular bigots come out for a generalised depraving rant against the dark continent and all those in it. Aid does nothing, eh? Not a soul benefitted....not a government nor society has improved from past status? No benefits to you?

Typical prejudicial ignorance and supremacist glee.

...Then missing the OP's point -- or possibly not. Ambivalent acceptance/support for exceptional funding to Israel.

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Don't leave home without it.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Why? They're rich. There are plenty of countries in africa for whom just 100 million would increase life expectency by like 10 years.

Dont feel bad since we're giving the new oppressive leader of Egypt some nice planes.


BTW, I support aid for african nations, enough to know something about it. You pulled your "data" out of your butt.
 

DaveSimmons

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We give sub-Saharan Africa over $7 billion a year in aid. So they must be living 700 years longer by now.