"The Union" a documentary on the legalization of Marijuana

LtPage1

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http://www.sacbee.com/opinion/story/1754154.html

There was a great op-ed by a McGeorge Law professor in my local paper today, discussing the issue. There's a CA state Assembly bill that would legalize and tax it. Here's my opinion: It's less addictive and deadly than alcohol, and we could generate a hell of a lot of revenue by taxing it. Also, I tend to believe that you shouldn't ever ban something that doesn't hurt other people.
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: IGBT
ohh the dopers will slurp and swallow this.

did you watch it? seeing as how you posted 30 minutes after i did, you couldnt have, its an hour and 44 minutes...

it has WAYYY more truth to it than you think.. why keep ones mind closed when the entire world is a way to learn?
 

JMapleton

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Last thing we need are millions more stoned people running around, we have enough of them. Keep it illegal at least keeps some people away from it.
 

ConstipatedVigilante

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Originally posted by: JMapleton
Last thing we need are millions more stoned people running around, we have enough of them. Keep it illegal at least keeps some people away from it.

This is what irritates me: the fact that you want to "keep people away from it." People should be free to do what they want as long as it doesn't affect others; treat weed just like alcohol in terms of DUIs and stuff. Most people will use it like alcohol - as a way to relax after work or with friends.

And prohibition didn't work for alcohol - it's not working for marijuana either.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: IGBT
ohh the dopers will slurp and swallow this.

did you watch it? seeing as how you posted 30 minutes after i did, you couldnt have, its an hour and 44 minutes...

it has WAYYY more truth to it than you think.. why keep ones mind closed when the entire world is a way to learn?

It takes mental effort to open one's mind to new ideas. Remember, some of us have to be on the left side of the bell curve...
 

I Saw OJ

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: I Saw OJ
Interesting watch, about half way through right now.

it is actually very very good... the ending is powerful too.

Excellent film. Really makes you think about the hypocrisy of some of these marijuana laws in the US.

People on both sides of the fence should watch this whether you are for or against legalization.
 

Passions

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Originally posted by: JMapleton
Last thing we need are millions more stoned people running around, we have enough of them. Keep it illegal at least keeps some people away from it.

Yeah, having a million drunks running around isn't so bad either, right? :roll:
 

deadlyapp

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Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
Originally posted by: JMapleton
Last thing we need are millions more stoned people running around, we have enough of them. Keep it illegal at least keeps some people away from it.

This is what irritates me: the fact that you want to "keep people away from it." People should be free to do what they want as long as it doesn't affect others; treat weed just like alcohol in terms of DUIs and stuff. Most people will use it like alcohol - as a way to relax after work or with friends.

And prohibition didn't work for alcohol - it's not working for marijuana either.

I think the biggest problem is there isn't an easy way to test for it. you pull someone over and you *suspect* they're high, there isn't a clear way to test like drunkeness.

i could be wrong.
 

BudAshes

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Originally posted by: deadlyapp
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
Originally posted by: JMapleton
Last thing we need are millions more stoned people running around, we have enough of them. Keep it illegal at least keeps some people away from it.

This is what irritates me: the fact that you want to "keep people away from it." People should be free to do what they want as long as it doesn't affect others; treat weed just like alcohol in terms of DUIs and stuff. Most people will use it like alcohol - as a way to relax after work or with friends.

And prohibition didn't work for alcohol - it's not working for marijuana either.

I think the biggest problem is there isn't an easy way to test for it. you pull someone over and you *suspect* they're high, there isn't a clear way to test like drunkeness.

i could be wrong.

I think they should just get everybody on the road high and see if it helps us all drive better. Road rage would be eliminated, although traffic would move slower, there might be less traffic jams.
 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: BudAshes
Originally posted by: deadlyapp
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
Originally posted by: JMapleton
Last thing we need are millions more stoned people running around, we have enough of them. Keep it illegal at least keeps some people away from it.

This is what irritates me: the fact that you want to "keep people away from it." People should be free to do what they want as long as it doesn't affect others; treat weed just like alcohol in terms of DUIs and stuff. Most people will use it like alcohol - as a way to relax after work or with friends.

And prohibition didn't work for alcohol - it's not working for marijuana either.

I think the biggest problem is there isn't an easy way to test for it. you pull someone over and you *suspect* they're high, there isn't a clear way to test like drunkeness.

i could be wrong.

I think they should just get everybody on the road high and see if it helps us all drive better. Road rage would be eliminated, although traffic would move slower, there might be less traffic jams.

ive driven with guys who were stoned, its not remotely comparable to someone who has been drinking
 

QueBert

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Originally posted by: deadlyapp
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
Originally posted by: JMapleton
Last thing we need are millions more stoned people running around, we have enough of them. Keep it illegal at least keeps some people away from it.

This is what irritates me: the fact that you want to "keep people away from it." People should be free to do what they want as long as it doesn't affect others; treat weed just like alcohol in terms of DUIs and stuff. Most people will use it like alcohol - as a way to relax after work or with friends.

And prohibition didn't work for alcohol - it's not working for marijuana either.

I think the biggest problem is there isn't an easy way to test for it. you pull someone over and you *suspect* they're high, there isn't a clear way to test like drunkeness.

i could be wrong.

I have driven with many people while they were high, most tended to drive better than when they weren't high. They say weed reduces your reflex time, but my friends seem to drive slower and more relaxed. Which if anything should negate the fact they're not reacting quite as fast.
 

JMapleton

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Originally posted by: Passions
Originally posted by: JMapleton
Last thing we need are millions more stoned people running around, we have enough of them. Keep it illegal at least keeps some people away from it.

Yeah, having a million drunks running around isn't so bad either, right? :roll:

Yeah look at the problems they cause with accidents, now do you want to double the "dui" population with more pot smokers out there?
 

JMapleton

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Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
This is what irritates me: the fact that you want to "keep people away from it." People should be free to do what they want as long as it doesn't affect others; treat weed just like alcohol in terms of DUIs and stuff. Most people will use it like alcohol - as a way to relax after work or with friends.

And prohibition didn't work for alcohol - it's not working for marijuana either.

As long as the government is involved in healthcare the government has an obligation to keep people away from certain things. If you wish to cut down government to bare absolute minimum then yes, we can legalize pot.

I'd say it is working for pot. If pot were legal, I would guess there would be 5 times as many people smoking it than now, maybe more.
 

Miramonti

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I've never smoked or used the stuff in any shape or form but am 100% behind the legalization of it.