The Unified Republic of Earth.

Circlenaut

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I was sitting on the bus today going home from work and I just started having this thinking spree. Well I thought about a lot of thinks but one thought that reigned was world peace(done but oh well). Well I said to my self what was one thing the world is lacking but is slowly going to, unification I thought. I say there is about 4 major barriers on earth politicly; government, language, culture, and religion. The world is slowly becoming democratic and some sort of unified culture but there still is language and religion. This leads to fighting. Most nations fight because of land or religion. Now why not GIVE everybody land. Just turn the world into a huge nation. And as for religion we ether get rid of it or find some way of proving to them that there is not need to fight(both of which are very difficult). And as for language we have to make a language that is related enough to all the languages in the world so it's easy to learn and very efficient at communicating. Every one of these are hard but the EU is the first step. Now lets just continue that. Now I want every one to give this a very deep thought and see if it works and if it doesn't then find another way. Please keep this one on topic. I relize this may be contraversal but I thing you can handle it ;).
 

AZGamer

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World peace is impossible - there will always be crime, there will always be terror.

Religion is not a mental disease, it is faith in our creator. I think in order to do any sort of world government, the minorities (Atheists) would be forced to give up there beliefs, and I know you people wouldn't be happy about it.

World government leads to lacking popular soveirnty. This is not democracy - it would be glorified dictatorship, with the UN being the dictators.
 

Circlenaut

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Now why is that impossible( I heard some where that nothing is impossible)
World government leads to lacking popular soveirnty. This is not democracy - it would be glorified dictatorship, with the UN being the dictators.
Ok Then when every one on earth has some form of internet connection or mass communition connection then why not make every one on earth vote on a BIG topic that will effect everyone on earth. Like a huge poll.
 

IamDavid

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Religion is and always will be the main barrier.. People who believe and live by the Koran could never live with Christians or any other religion peacefully. I'm not saying only one religion is to blame, they all cause more probems then fix.
 

Circlenaut

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Originally posted by: IamDavid
Religion is and always will be the main barrier.. People who believe and live by the Koran could never live with Christians or any other religion peacefully. I'm not saying only one religion is to blame, they all cause more probems then fix.
Why not start a new generation of kids believing in something less religios. They will still hold thier faith but it won't be as extreme. You keep doing that until there really isn't much of religion.
 

Skawttey

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Originally posted by: shadowmind359
Originally posted by: IamDavid
Religion is and always will be the main barrier.. People who believe and live by the Koran could never live with Christians or any other religion peacefully. I'm not saying only one religion is to blame, they all cause more probems then fix.
Why not start a new generation of kids believing in something less religios. They will still hold thier faith but it won't be as extreme. You keep doing that until there really isn't much of religion.

Good luck getting parents to do that.
 

IamDavid

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"Why not start a new generation of kids believing in something less religios. They will still hold thier faith but it won't be as extreme. You keep doing that until there really isn't much of religion."

lol, You head right over to the mid east or down to the bible belt and start that up.. :)

Most people need religion, they have to have a belief in something greater then themselves for some reason. I personally love the idea but it will never happen :(
 

Bobomatic

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wouldn't that just be a step towards commmunism? Not stalin communism, the original communism(the good one).
 

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Originally posted by: shadowmind359 Ok Then when every one on earth has some form of internet connection or mass communition connection then why not make every one on earth vote on a BIG topic that will effect everyone on earth. Like a huge poll.

Because the sad truth is that people are dumb. Most people are not qualified to have an
opinion about or can even understand many issues that affect everyone on earth.

And who decides on these issues? Look at the UN. They have votes and sometimes
pass the most absurd resolutions. Good thing the security council has some sane
members.

If you want everyone to vote on a big topic and have the majority win, you also dont
understand how the senate works. and if you do, you'll see why it would be hard to
correct the voting process.

 

Skawttey

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Originally posted by: Bobomatic
wouldn't that just be a step towards commmunism? Not stalin communism, the original communism(the good one).

There is no such thing as good communism.
 

zephyrprime

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People that disagree with the majority will spliter off and try to form their own nation. And if you tried to lump together everyone on the planet, there wouldn't be a majority at all. Just a bunch of big groups that disagreed with each other. Plus, is it wise to put all of humanity's eggs in on basket? It seems like the risk/reward ratio is too low even if the reward is world peace.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I think we should emulate the greatest athiestic states. Russia and China. What wonders eliminating religion did there. Lemme see.. perhaps 50 million people "purged" (read executed). Hmmm. Maybe this is a little more complicated than ridding the world of religion.
 

sandorski

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Canada and the US are likely the only models that could acheive Global Government.

The US is the common language, culture, and political mode, but multi religious. Canada is the Multicultural, lingual, religious, though common political model. Look at these 2 countries, they have people from everywhere on the Earth, they have people practising every World Religion(and then some), it is possible for everyone to get along, but it can't be done in 1 generation and it will only succeed when people choose it, not when someone attempts to force it.


The Paranoid, the UN, and World Government: Umm, ok, that Kirk Cameron movie was fiction eh. Before World Government/UN paranoia, there was World Government/Soviet Union paranoia. Why the UN is so feard in this way makes no sense, the Security Council not Koffi Annan(the head guy..don't recall position) is who controls it. Hell, the UN is practically the Antithesis to top down control, it gives powerless nations an equal footing, in many instances, with Super Power nations. The UN will **not** form a World Government, it is not structured to do so. Right now, the US is the only nation capable of establishing a World Government.
 

mithrandir2001

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It may take centuries or 1000 years, but I think something like this will happen. Faith itself may not be the problem so much as institutionalized religion. You have to believe in this and that and do this and that and tell others they must do this and that and repent for this and that or you'll go to hell or be reborn as a serpent. That kind of nonsense. But if somebody believes there is a purple squirrel on top of the hill that talks to them, well, that's beyond my cares.

Instead of having 200 or so nations like we have now, you might see 4-5. Maybe like Dune or Alpha Centauri.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Well my point is that the whole premise is wrong. We forgot the fifth barrier. Humans are the most efficient predators the world has ever seen. Think T Rex was a terror? Nothing compared to us. No living creature has a chance against humans. Not even other humans. You cannot educate, coerce, frighten, dictate or demand that the genetic inheretence that makes us what we are go away.
 

ValhallasHalls

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Originally posted by: Skawttey
Originally posted by: Bobomatic
wouldn't that just be a step towards commmunism? Not stalin communism, the original communism(the good one).

There is no such thing as good communism.

Change that to communalism, and it sounds MUCH better...