The Ultimate troll. Nurse Online coaxes people into killing themselves

[Circlenaut]

Both of my parents had basically 0 quality of life for the last ten years of their lives. One had Alzheimers, the other had global aphasia. Went through all their assests, then became wards of the state. If anyone is wondering a majority of the health care costs are going, it's going to people like my parents who had no assets.

Both my brother and I had packs if either of us are fortunate to realize that we are succombing to Alzheimers.

I feel it's my civic duty.

What are you implying here? That you'd kill your brother if he developed Alzheimer?

 

[hal2kilo]

What are you implying here? That you'd kill your brother if he developed Alzheimer?

What do you think pact means?

 

[Soundmanred]

My post was not directed towards her or her son. If a person can get help and improve their life, great, but some people are simply broken. Just look at the topic you posted about that male rape victim. Not saying he was a failure, as it was another person that broke him, but he did what he saw as the best choice for his life.

I hear what you're saying. There are some broken people out there that just can't control themselves, and give in to their impulses and urges due to a broken mental state. Severe health issues are also a factor, but that is for someone who is old enough to make a conscious decision to decide, not a teenager on an emotional rollercoaster (as all teens are).

 

[dmcowen674]

He didn't kill anyone... these people killed themselves.

Sounds like he is doing society a good service

 

[HAL9000]

Sounds like he is doing society a good service

No he's not he's a wise and beautiful woman.

 

[HAL9000]

Thank you HAL9000 and werepossum for your thoughtful and compassionate replies. I believe that my son would have been fine given a little more time to grow up and develop more perspective. He was so talented; won 1st place in the South by Southwest Film Festival at 14 (high school shorts); was an amazing boy, just too sensitive. A lot of young people go through depressive or suicidal periods and are grateful they kept living a few years later. Thanks again for your kindness.

No problem madam, I hope you are OK as you can be in this situation, I appreciate what your son must have been going through, I suffer with bipolar disorder and it sometimes makes life seem bleak or impossible.

 

[ShawnD1]

He didn't kill anyone... these people killed themselves.

Messed up what he did, but I doubt police will be able to get many charges to stick to him.

There is definitely a difference between helping people kill themselves and flat out telling them that they should kill themselves.

Half of ATOT is telling people to kill themselves or demanding that people be killed, but it's usually a joke. Going to a suicide forum or chat room and doing that shows clear intent. It was not a joke.

 

[ZaneNBK]

Just survival of the fittest.

These people obviously know they are not fit.

Get over it.

Troll troll troll your boat...

Oh yes, and post count++ for you. Though why you bother at 43,000+ is beyond me.

 

[Howard]

I suffer with bipolar disorder

No you don't.

 

[Infohawk]

No you don't.

Interesting. How do you know?

 

[Howard]

Interesting. How do you know?

I don't, but I also don't believe that he can prove it.

 

[ShawnD1]

Interesting. How do you know?

I dated a bipolar chick. bipolar people are extreme. They'll go months at a time like they are high on cocaine, and they're the most fun people in the world. Then that is followed by a weird depression phase that is not fun at all but just as self destructive.

neckbeard doesn't seem self destructive

 

[frostedflakes]

There is definitely a difference between helping people kill themselves and flat out telling them that they should kill themselves.

Half of ATOT is telling people to kill themselves or demanding that people be killed, but it's usually a joke. Going to a suicide forum or chat room and doing that shows clear intent. It was not a joke.

I just thought OP's line about him killing these people was pretty ridiculous. Yes, he preyed on them while in a fragile state, but ultimately they were the ones who pulled the trigger. Does not in any way, shape, or form qualify as homicide. Looks like he's being charged under a law that makes encouraging or assisting with suicide illegal.

 

[Darwin333]

Sounds like he is doing society a good service

You would know too, you have got to be the unhappiest person I have ever seen.

 

[HAL9000]

I dated a bipolar chick. bipolar people are extreme. They'll go months at a time like they are high on cocaine, and they're the most fun people in the world. Then that is followed by a weird depression phase that is not fun at all but just as self destructive.

neckbeard doesn't seem self destructive

Interesting, but I am bipolar, I spend most of my time manic/ hypomanic which probably explains my ppd... :hmm:

 

[werepossum]

Thank you HAL9000 and werepossum for your thoughtful and compassionate replies. I believe that my son would have been fine given a little more time to grow up and develop more perspective. He was so talented; won 1st place in the South by Southwest Film Festival at 14 (high school shorts); was an amazing boy, just too sensitive. A lot of young people go through depressive or suicidal periods and are grateful they kept living a few years later. Thanks again for your kindness.

One thing about being a teenager, it's hard to look farther out and see that things may be totally different. Oftimes those who are the most unhappy in high school turn out to be the most successful in adult life, when the hormones settle down and the popularity cliques lose their peer power and the wide open possibilities of modern Western civilization are realized. No doubt your son would have been the same, and G-d willing he is happy now. My condolences again on your loss.

That's why I agree with Zebo, HAL and Shawn; doing this on a suicide hotline is way, way different from facilitating the suicides of the terminally ill. Such a person should be charged with anything and everything possible, even things you know won't stick. Make his life as much of a living hell as the lives of the families of those on whom he preyed. Such a person in my opinion is worthy of execution; although there is probably no such law bearing that penalty, morally he is on the level of child rapists and murderers.

 

[piasabird]

People just need to be slapped accross the face once in a while. It is difficult for a liberal to understand that they are not the center of the universe. This can happen to anyone. When you come down off of the booze and the drugs reality can be tough.

 

[bfdd]

These people made the decisions to kill themselves, he didn't kill them. I also have absolutely no problem with people killing themselves as long as they don't leave a mess behind.

That said he is a sick fuck.

 

[SlickSnake]

He was never considering suicide... no way... no how... you can't brainwash-manipulate-convince that many people to murder someones brother or sister - son or daughter - mother or father and never just finish yourself off...

did you write this?
^^
If you did then why did you go on protecting this person and being so sympathetic to that one person when if your sister or mom were thinking about suicide he would have done all he could to help them WITH LIES...Do you think Suicide is a good solution?

Even though this was a bit of a necro post, I never noticed your comment to me.

I think he was trying to talk himself into doing it, and he was just too much of a coward to do it before he was caught. I think it's likely he was looking to others for validation and support of his suicidal tendencies as much as offering help.

And I wasn't protecting him, did you mean defending him? I WAS sort of doing that only because the OP went so off the hook on his comments about him.

I was trying to point out that you don't just hang out in a suicide chat room for kicks unless you are obsessed with it yourself. That's mentally how that works. And having seen plenty of attempted suicides myself, and how their depression can be contagious and effect others, I think I have a lot of unfortunate experience about this subject that you most likely do not.

Suicide is only a good solution if modern medicine fails a terminally ill patient. And it's criminal in my opinion for modern medical practices to force people to suffer in agony until the moment of death to squeeze out the last penny they can from the patient. It should be a terminal patients inalienable right to end their lives without interference and without suffering and dignity whenever they want to if they have a clear mind and the will to do so.

 

[SlickSnake]

That's why I agree with Zebo, HAL and Shawn; doing this on a suicide hotline is way, way different from facilitating the suicides of the terminally ill. Such a person should be charged with anything and everything possible, even things you know won't stick. Make his life as much of a living hell as the lives of the families of those on whom he preyed. Such a person in my opinion is worthy of execution; although there is probably no such law bearing that penalty, morally he is on the level of child rapists and murderers.

If he talked them into killing themselves on a suicide HOT LINE on the PHONE where he is supposed to be talking people out of suicide then yes, I agree it should be a crime. Despondent people go to a suicide hot line because they are not sure if they really want to kill themselves or not.

But from what I read, it was a suicide CHAT ROOM ONLINE that he trolled in, where depressed suicidal people hang out and talk about killing themselves, and they are not seeking advice to talk them out of it which is an entirely different motivation.

They are seeking moral support for what they want to do, and are trying to get up the courage to do it and decide how. Understand that if someone was actively trying to talk people out of it there they would be unwelcome and they would be looked at like a troll and blocked or ignored and not listened to. So that then becomes a crime just for hanging out there and telling people what they wanted to hear when they went there?

The fact he was pretending to be a female nurse is pretty creepy, but when typing online it's pretty easy to do, and might have given him more of a compassionate persona for all I know. Since none of us were there reading the text, all we can do is read the sensationalist media hype being reported that might or might not be true and speculate about the motivations.