The UK Will Not Support Us Much Longer

[GTaudiophile]

Talking Point @ BBC

I think the decision is outside Mr Blair's control. There seems to be some law (written and/or unwritten) that the UK will continually and unquestionably loyally be a lapdog to the US. I feel deep grief and sympathy for the victims an their relatives and a true testimony to all those that lost their lives would be for the US to strive for world peace. Part of this campaign for world peace does involve the eradication of terrorism, but this should, as Paddy Ashdown says, be done through justice and not revenge. If the US and UK governments exact harsh military strikes on Afghanistan then thousands of civilians are likely to lose their lives and they will have lowered themselves to the same level as the terrorists. Feelings of hate for the US and the west would strengthen in the Muslim world and a spiral of retaliation will occur on a much greater level than that already seen in Israel/Palestine.

 

[PlatinumGold]

who cares what the UK thinks.

 

[Oalex]

but they have a point there. So you should.

 

[rickn]

Oh yeah, like the Brits have been a real help in Ireland. It is a never ending cycle, and diplomacy is not always an answer. You cannot have diplomacy with a government such as the Taliban.

 

[PlatinumGold]

good point rickn.

let's look at UK's track record w/ terrorist. hmmm. ya, i really wanna duplicate that on a global level. [sarcasm btw]

 

[loup garou]

<< [I think the decision is outside Mr Blair's control. There seems to be some law (written and/or unwritten) that the UK will continually and unquestionably loyally be a lapdog to the US. I feel deep grief and sympathy for the victims an their relatives and a true testimony to all those that lost their lives would be for the US to strive for world peace. Part of this campaign for world peace does involve the eradication of terrorism, but this should, as Paddy Ashdown says, be done through justice and not revenge. If the US and UK governments exact harsh military strikes on Afghanistan then thousands of civilians are likely to lose their lives and they will have lowered themselves to the same level as the terrorists. Feelings of hate for the US and the west would strengthen in the Muslim world and a spiral of retaliation will occur on a much greater level than that already seen in Israel/Palestine. >>





<< Andy, Notts, UK >>



You do realize that that quote is from a response to an article by a "man on the street" so to speak? Not a politician, head of state, or anyone else who directly influences the UK's position. Please note that. That holds as much relevance and influence to the UK's decisions as certain members' on this board's postings influencing the US's. :disgust:

Please, everyone who responds to this thread, click on the BBC link and read it. This is merely a "talkback" article, where people get to reply with personal opinions on the situation. Like I said, saying that the UK will not help the US based on this one quote is like saying the US is going to nuke Afghanistan based on posts in this forum!!! :| :| :|

 

[HowardStern]

Considering how many times we've bailed them out, you would think that they would have the decency to help us out.

 

[Tripleshot]

This is B.S. :|

The UK flies sorties along with theU.S. in the no fly zone over Iraq. They are already in the area helping the U.S. and the allies.

They lost 500 of there own citizens in the attack on the WTC. They have as much reason to participate and provide miltarily as any nato partner. I do not believe for a second they will not provide support in whatever capicity they are asked to. Right now,I believe they are taking a hard look at terrorists in their own country,just as we are here. That is a damn good start.

 

[ToBeMe]

I think THIS is exactly what Osama Bin Laden was banking on.......NOT what so many others have stated that he was trying to lure us into a fight on his home turf............... I believe he figured sustained support for military involvement would quickly dwindle due to the Afghanny situation!

 

[Oalex]

rickn:
You have a point there, but to categoricaly state (like PlatinumGold did)"who cares what the UK thinks." is exatly one of the factors I belive that lead to this in the long run. Ignorance. They don't have to be right (or wrong) but you have to care.

PlatinumGold Profiling
White male
age 10-100
Angry
Ignorant
personality: Driver type
Fevorite song: I want it my way.
Fevorite country: America
Fevorite car: Corvette (almost)
Fevorite color: Green
Self-Perception: I'm smart, I never err, I'm just, I know what I need to know.

 

[PlatinumGold]

hahahahaha

oalex. you crack me up.

hmm. too bad your wrong on every point.

 

[351Cleveland]

Well, For one, That was NOT the British government.

If this was a problem that could be solved by political means, then it would be done as such. What people seem to foget is that we are dealing with a country run by TERRORISTS. As soon as the Taleban got off camera (from their "sympathy" appearance), they went in back and rejoiced.

Face it. If we do not strike them back, we will be struck over and over and over. I for one will NOT stand for that, and I do not expect my leaders to stand for that.

If this was a mission based strictly on revenge, we would have lit up the place already. The fact is that we are going in and hiting these people in order to undercut their ability to do this again.

 

[Oalex]

<< hmm. too bad your wrong on every point. >>



That is imposible!

 

[desy]

They will support.
They have been the victim of terrosim before, remember Lockerby Scottland? Just like anywhere else you get some opinions recommending inaction.
Its up to parliament to decide not Joe lunchbox on the street.

 

[Oalex]

PlatinumGold:
just sit back and see others react, they don't go saying "we don't care, they look at it, look at the source, see if it is credible, then decide on the consiquesis.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Oalex Profiling
Female
age 10-15
in love
Ignorant
personality: passive aggressive
Fevorite country: Afghanistan
Fevorite car: Volvo
Fevorite color: Green
Self-Perception: I'm smart, I never err, I'm just, I know what I need to know.



PlatinumGold Profile, for real.
Asian American male
age 36
Angry (you bet your a$$ i'm angry)
personality: Driver type
Fevorite country: America
Fevorite car: Olds Intrigue
Fevorite color: Blue.
Self-Perception: Smarter than Oalex.

 

[Oalex]

You see I was right on the relivant subjects and you said it was all wrong
The white-male part, the car and color part was just a joke to make it look like a criminal profile
It was the point of it all that is important.

by the way I'm male and unfortunatly not in love.

 

[PlatinumGold]

oalex

you've seen my comments on this situation before and you know why i said who cares.

the response to this must seem to come from america and america alone if we are to truly put fear in the hearts of future terrorist. they must know if they attack us that we will respond, not when it is politically expedient to do so, but immediately.

you don't know anything about me. you try to talk as if this situation were the norm and that rules of the norm apply here.

it isn't, this is an exceptional and uniqe situation that requires an exceptional response. in general i am a pacifist. i don't believe in killing people randomly, i don't believe in the death penalty, i am against abortion, i believe in legalizing drugs. there are a host of things about me that you know absolutely nothing about and yet you rush to judgement because of something that i said about a situation that most of us will acknowledge is unique.

it seems to me that you are just as guilty of rash judgement as anyone else here.

 

[Oalex]

The simple point is (no matter how upset you are) that you should CARE about what others say, except if it starts with something like "You Fu**ing...blablabla" (as a matter of fact you should even care then, because there might be a reason for that, which might be fatal to ignore)

 

[PlatinumGold]

the US should react in this situation unilaterally.

there can't be any sign that we are waiting for UN approval, world approval or anything like that before we act.

terrorist respect power and the willingness to use that power. so far the US has been extremely reluctant to use that power. that is what has lead us to this situation today.

 

[bunker]

Quit the flaming and have a real discussion.

 

[Mem]

Hmm well I`m British and can tell you that the Prime Minister and virtually everyone I know is backing USA,it`s funny we Brits get stick eitherway we are damned if we do and damned if we don`t.

I did notice some Members taking cheap shots at us Brits now I know what Anand goes through and he is American.

 

[Cooltech2k]

The UK Isnt stupid & even without there support we would be the winning side, They know better than to back the loosing side..

 

[NakaNaka]

Cooltech hit it right on the head. The UK knows we are doing the right thing by attacking them I mean what are we supposed to negotiate with the Taliban. Yea right .. And even if the UK doesn't agree they would back us anyway because backing the Talibans is a death sentance ....

 

[Bob/NYC]

The BBC reported that a British task force of 17 ships
led by the HMS Ixxxxxxxx is headed towards the
Persian Gulf. 1624 GMT 091701

Name witheld, for security by x.

Thankyou UK, we know the public show for CNN is propaganda. The training mission in the Gulf, was changed to support and I see the size has largly been increased.