Originally posted by: amdfanboy
Sadly, I'm afraid it will happen sooner or later.
Originally posted by: rickn
economically, this country would be in ruins. I mean when you think of everything made there, my god would we be in bad shape. Goodbyeee Walmart
I'm not exactly sure what your title is in regards too either. Whether is be from an economic standpoint, or a military. Both countries posses the capability to hit each other anywhere, anytime. No winners there. If you're talking about Economically. China has the capability to crush the US.
Originally posted by: alchemize
I think you need to identify the theater of operations.
The likely scenario would be over Tawain? Mostly an air and sea war? We'd win, realtively handily. I don't think China would be willing to go nuclear with us, since we'd survive an attack against them, but they wouldn't against us. No MAD there...
We'd have an awful tough time fighting them on land, but our forces aren't really arrayed anywhere against them, except in Korea. In that scenario, we'd probably beat them back, but couldn't really advance. Forget about an invasion style war.
Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
scenario: each country is hungry for resources and china decides unilaterally to invade the middle east, and occupy it. it'd be easy for them since they have too many people and their domestic policy is focused on REDUCING their own population.
us would be devastated instantly from fuel shortages. so as long as china doesn't touch the oil US would win, but the moment they do US is obliterated and urban society ends.
Originally posted by: Infohawk
I believe China only has tens of missiles. Perhaps more now but a couple years ago China had like seven missiles or so if I recall correctly. We could turn China into glass essentially in a first strike and maybe only lose a few cities if even (do they even have early warning detection). It seems like people overestimate some countries non-traditional capabilities. It's not THAT easy to strike another continent with nukes right now. (This happened with Iraq I believe, people didn't understand they had no way of striking us).
Now as for the future, that's a whole 'nother matter. I think eventually we will need to join resources with the Europeans if there is ever a clash. But that's just crystal ball reading and too far into the future.
Now if you're talking traditional I don't think the US could occupy China EVER. We could perhaps bring their economy to its knees but even then that would require a lot of procurement with Iraq going on. Look at Korea, there's no way we could take on their numbers in a conventional war for too long in an open theater. But I think we could defend Taiwan though. But man that would require mobilization to go after the mainland and then we wouldn't be successful.
Its a huge load of BS frankly. I wouldn't take it seriously.Originally posted by: Abraxas
No idea how accurate this is but:
http://www.kimsoft.com/korea/ch-war.htm
If there is any truth to that, they have more than enough nukes to do crippling damage to the US.
Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
scenario: each country is hungry for resources and china decides unilaterally to invade the middle east, and occupy it. it'd be easy for them since they have too many people and their domestic policy is focused on REDUCING their own population.
us would be devastated instantly from fuel shortages. so as long as china doesn't touch the oil US would win, but the moment they do US is obliterated and urban society ends.
Originally posted by: rickn
bout 5yrs ago or so they were estimated to have around 20-30 ICBM's, capable of hitting almost anywhere in the US. I'd imagine probably built more since then.
Originally posted by: Aegeon
Its a huge load of BS frankly. I wouldn't take it seriously.Originally posted by: Abraxas
No idea how accurate this is but:
http://www.kimsoft.com/korea/ch-war.htm
If there is any truth to that, they have more than enough nukes to do crippling damage to the US.