The Tyan S2460 can be bought!

[lnvictus]

www.einux.com

Call them! Ask for it! I don't know if they have anymore, but I got one and I'm quite excited! Good luck!

For those that don't know, the S2460 is the mobo with the Athlon 760MP chipset and it's for consumers, not corporations! WAHOO!

 

[erub]

how much is it? here are the specs:

Tyan S2460

 

[KpocAlypse]

You know, i'm staring at the Tyan S2462 with 2x 1.2 right now, then to the mastercard, then back to the screen, then back to the..........



If only i got paid more......

EDIT: $641 for the Tiger and 2x 1.2 chips.
$871 for the S2462

 

[lnvictus]

It's 250 for the board + S & H (they're in CA)
I'm building a rig for my friend (for FREE) with this board, it's going to kick the **** out of his old one (600 mhz)
2.8 ghz (2 x 1.4 t-birds)
512 MB registered DDR RAM (registered req)
160 GB
DVD-RAM
24x CDRW

Good? Heheheh.

Kpoc I think it's 250 (board) + 2 x 131 (2 retail t-birds) = 512

 

[erub]

the price difference could depend on whether you bought Athlon MPs or regular T-Birds

 

[KpocAlypse]

I vote for the MP, duel Thunderbirds= a small expensive space heater in my mind

 

[lnvictus]

Speaking of space heaters, what HS/F do you guys recommend for T-birds?
Edit: Would the ones that come with the retail T-birds be good enough? Cause the ones I bought came with fans...

 

[BurnItDwn]

if you are going to run them at stock speed ... they are sufficient. but not any better than good enough

 

[weovpac]

I found it for $219.
edit: found it for $209

 

[lnvictus]

Man two days it's been out and a $30 price drop....ah well...

 

[Ender]

Dvd Ram? Haven't heard of that.. some type of new chip to upgrade Dvd-Rom performance I supose?

As for your theory of 2.8ghz. I don't think it runs one program at 2.8ghz but instead runs two programs or more seperately on different processors so you can have twice the computer utilization since you have two processors, like playing Quake 3 and Counter-strike on the two different processors at the same time so they would both run at max performance.. but I might be wrong on this since I heard this from a friend. But I think Athlon MP aka Athlon 4 desktop will do what you intend to do, run one program at 2.4 ghz (Since they only come in 1.2ghz per processor).

Again, I might be wrong, don't quote me on this

Btw, what type of HD?

 

[Ender]

Oh btw.. Are you the Mod, Invictus, on TTZ forums?

 

[Vincent]

Do these need a special power supply?

 

[KpocAlypse]

<< Dvd Ram? Haven't heard of that.. some type of new chip to upgrade Dvd-Rom performance I supose?

As for your theory of 2.8ghz. I don't think it runs one program at 2.8ghz but instead runs two programs or more seperately on different processors so you can have twice the computer utilization since you have two processors, like playing Quake 3 and Counter-strike on the two different processors at the same time so they would both run at max performance.. but I might be wrong on this since I heard this from a friend. But I think Athlon MP aka Athlon 4 desktop will do what you intend to do, run one program at 2.4 ghz (Since they only come in 1.2ghz per processor).

Again, I might be wrong, don't quote me on this

Btw, what type of HD? >>



Yor correct, two processors will NOT &quot;double&quot; the performance, It works similar to what you described, but there is bottle necks, like memory acccess, HD access and the fact that both processors use up cycles to keep them &quot;in sinc&quot; So i wouldn't say MAX performance, just really dang good Multiple program/thread performance.

 

[weovpac]

You still need the registered DDR SDRAM but the only power supply requirements are, that it's 300W power supply with 30mA on the +5V lead.

 

[ChipNOW]

DVD-RAM is a writable DVD medium, but it uses cartridges as opposed to acual CD's/DVD's. It's been out a fair while.

BTW, is it OK to use standard Tbirds in an MP setup or is it better to go for the Pally's?

 

[ChipNOW]

DVD-RAM is a writable DVD medium, but it uses cartridges as opposed to acual CD's/DVD's. It's been out a fair while.

BTW, is it OK to use standard Tbirds in an MP setup or is it better to go for the Pally's?

 

[Pabster]

ChipNow wrote:

&quot;BTW, is it OK to use standard Tbirds in an MP setup or is it better to go for the Pally's?&quot;

Many here will tell you to use regular Birds, since they are cheaper. However, AthlonMP prices have dropped considerably (the 1.2GHz parts are nearly $100 less than the last couple I purchased not all that long ago.) and the performance benefit is enormous, particularly if you'll be doing audio/visual work with your duallie rig. MP offers SSE capabilities (up to 70% faster than Thunderbird in Photoshop 6, for example) and you get the other enhancements of the Palomino core - less heat, less juice, hardware data prefetching, increased TLB entries, on-core thermal diode, thermal protection (throttling), etc.

 

[Beeker25]

I would definately use the AthlonMP's, I have a Tyan K7 Thunder 2462UNG with 2 x 1.2AthlonMP's, 1GB ECC REG PC2100 Crucial, Adaptec 3200S with 4 x Seagate Cheetah X15's in RAID 0 + 1. WEhen I first got my Tyan K7 Thuner, I wanted to see if regular 1333 TBirds would work in it, I triued it out, they do work, but it is very lacking in performance and the are just way too hot. The performance of 2 1333 Tbirds isn't much better then the performance of a single 1333 TBird, they just don't take full advantage of the 762NB and SMP. I did notice a huge differance when I installed my 2 x 1.2AthlonMP's, I would spend the few extra $ and get the MP CPU's, you will NOT be sorry. I would also get a very good HSF, the AthlonMP's still give off a good amount of heat. I am using SK-6 with Delta 38's on my 1.2 AthlonMP's and they still run at 45C according to the Tyan hardware monitor in the Bios. I havw 2 extra 1.2 AthlonMP's, I am just waitig for my second Tyan K7 Thunder to return from Tyan from being RMA'd, I have a Revision 1 board that was bad, couldn't get any video out of it no matter what I did.

 

[weovpac]

Beeker35,

How is gaming with that mobo and the MP's?

 

[lnvictus]

Something to consider...thanks.
Also, if you buy something online and you want to return it, and you return it in the EXACT SAME BOX and everything do you think they won't give you a restocking fee because it hasn't been opened?

Edit: I dunno what HD, I haven't ordered it yet...

2nd Edit: No, I've never been admin of anything save a CS server once...

 

[rmblam]

<< ChipNow wrote:

&quot;BTW, is it OK to use standard Tbirds in an MP setup or is it better to go for the Pally's?&quot;

Many here will tell you to use regular Birds, since they are cheaper. However, AthlonMP prices have dropped considerably (the 1.2GHz parts are nearly $100 less than the last couple I purchased not all that long ago.) and the performance benefit is enormous, particularly if you'll be doing audio/visual work with your duallie rig. MP offers SSE capabilities (up to 70% faster than Thunderbird in Photoshop 6, for example) and you get the other enhancements of the Palomino core - less heat, less juice, hardware data prefetching, increased TLB entries, on-core thermal diode, thermal protection (throttling), etc. >>



Agreed, but with the cpu price trend I wouldn't call anyone foolish for waiting for a sweeter price and using the T-birds temporarily (on a home system). I am so close to ordering mine, but I am holding out for the 1.5 MP to show itself and drive the prices down more on the others. Hopefully.

synth17 thanks for the link. I ordered one today from them after you posted. They better have it in stock now as it eluded to. Shipping was cheap.

 

[SUOrangeman]

KpocAlypse (and others),

Although I agree that you will not reach twice the processing power of a single CPU with Athlons in SMP, but the AMD implementation s a bit different (not as crippled?) as Intel's. I think we've seen review where folks could run different CPUs at different speeds. Each CPU has its own bus to the memory subsystem, so I find it hard to believe that the two CPUs need to be kept in sync. Yes, dependent processes are running on separate CPUs, it is likely that one process will have to wait on the results of another.

Make sense? Is my head screwed on straight?

-SUO