The Trump regime has edited constitution.congress.gov

[pmv]

When we conducted the new census we were astonished to find that Wyoming had previously been undercounted by thirty seven million people.

We discovered a hitherto unnoticed _third_ Dakota! Middle Dakota, that somehow has been overlooked and denied its EC seats and Senators.

 

[zinfamous]

what a weird thread. It's like fskimposy hasn't been awake for the last 30 years and watched how all it takes is fucking dumbass mob of slobbering imbeciles, many of them like brandonbull and greenman and taj and whatever to just believe whatever they are force-fed as truth, to suddenly declare that as truth to get them riled up and do a coup. I mean, it's already happened once, and very recently! and he's very mad about it and adamant that these imbeciles understand that, yet here he is saying that the very same thing isn't a problem now.

It's really strange.

it's also strange that he makes such arguments when the current DoJ and SCOTUS really don't seem to give a fuck about such documents anyway and only seek to ignore this and argue their way into making donny the pantshitter emperor for life, and are doing nothing right now but making un-argued shadow court decisions well outside of the actual constitution to make all of this happen.

All they need is the flimsiest of precedent and a kernel of text to argue for, and he knows exactly this, yet doesn't care.

It's like he's unaware that the actual constitution itself, the original piece of paper, was pretty much missing for the first 100 years of this country because no one gave a fuck and eventually found it stuffed away in some closet in some rotting government building. It only exists as some holy powerful relic because some super patriot fascist decided to make it so. the country did relatively OK, assuming they knew what it meant for quite a while, never even referring to it....yet jmaking the first available public record that everyone refers to instantly in this modern world a complete falsehood, and specifically for the articles that suit little king pantshitter donny the pedophile in his despot ambitions is somehow NOT a problem, simply doesn't pass the smell test.

fskimposy: are you OK? did you go to sleep or something? Are you actually ignoring that DOGE is still camped out in our public buildings, absolutely terrorizing our databases for their ends? (seriously, just ask me) These are fucking teenagers that have been abandoned by their godking Musk with very few remaining orders but to "hope that he talks to them some day," doing every little thing they can to completely influence the perverted brains of such easily influenced worm food as people we well know, such as brandonbull, crashtest, greenman, taj, whatthefuckever these illiterate, pedophile-supporting fucking coup-baiting simps, to go on and engage in their modern kristalnacht fantasies.

This is all part of it. Stop being a fucking simp like these goddamn troglodytes.

 

[zinfamous]

I figure the C is the C. They can fuck with it all they want in a bullshit attempt to obfuscate, but the law is still the law.

oh you sweet summer child. Are you watching?

 

[Muse]

oh you sweet summer child. Are you watching?

Oh, so you think donnie will swear on a bible on 1/20/29? What cartoons are you addicted to?

 

[Moonbeam]

what a weird thread. It's like fskimposy hasn't been awake for the last 30 years and watched how all it takes is fucking dumbass mob of slobbering imbeciles, many of them like brandonbull and greenman and taj and whatever to just believe whatever they are force-fed as truth, to suddenly declare that as truth to get them riled up and do a coup. I mean, it's already happened once, and very recently! and he's very mad about it and adamant that these imbeciles understand that, yet here he is saying that the very same thing isn't a problem now.

It's really strange.

it's also strange that he makes such arguments when the current DoJ and SCOTUS really don't seem to give a fuck about such documents anyway and only seek to ignore this and argue their way into making donny the pantshitter emperor for life, and are doing nothing right now but making un-argued shadow court decisions well outside of the actual constitution to make all of this happen.

All they need is the flimsiest of precedent and a kernel of text to argue for, and he knows exactly this, yet doesn't care.

It's like he's unaware that the actual constitution itself, the original piece of paper, was pretty much missing for the first 100 years of this country because no one gave a fuck and eventually found it stuffed away in some closet in some rotting government building. It only exists as some holy powerful relic because some super patriot fascist decided to make it so. the country did relatively OK, assuming they knew what it meant for quite a while, never even referring to it....yet jmaking the first available public record that everyone refers to instantly in this modern world a complete falsehood, and specifically for the articles that suit little king pantshitter donny the pedophile in his despot ambitions is somehow NOT a problem, simply doesn't pass the smell test.

fskimposy: are you OK? did you go to sleep or something? Are you actually ignoring that DOGE is still camped out in our public buildings, absolutely terrorizing our databases for their ends? (seriously, just ask me) These are fucking teenagers that have been abandoned by their godking Musk with very few remaining orders but to "hope that he talks to them some day," doing every little thing they can to completely influence the perverted brains of such easily influenced worm food as people we well know, such as brandonbull, crashtest, greenman, taj, whatthefuckever these illiterate, pedophile-supporting fucking coup-baiting simps, to go on and engage in their modern kristalnacht fantasies.

This is all part of it. Stop being a fucking simp like these goddamn troglodytes.

It’s almost like he said Dr Peterson isn’t the droid you are looking for. When you liberals glom onto some imaginary political heresy you become as irrational as conservatives.

What the fuck is so wrong about not seeing this as a big deal. Conservatives are as ignorant as to what’s in the Constirution as the are about what’s in the Bible.

 

[NWRMidnight]

Lol I do - you do not. The idea that there would be some sort of journal peer review process for publishing the text of a historical document is laugh out loud ridiculous. The ‘peer review’ would be other people checking to see if the contents reflect the document, which is already done.

If your concern is people could take over the tools of moderation and use it to publish disinformation that’s true about every source ever. It could never be any other way, in fact.

I genuinely don’t know what to say at this point as you’re dug in. I tried to show you how silly the idea is by asking you to think of it in reverse but I guess it didn’t work.

If you think that out of all the things the Trump administration is doing this is worthy of your time and alarm then by all means enjoy yourself.

Are you really that fucking stupid? Who at wikipedia is doing these peer reviews? The volunteers? They are not qualified, they are most likely not experts in anything they are reviewing for accuracy. If you actually knew anything about peer review, you would know that a peer review generally requires experts in their relative field , to perform a peer review. Volunteers attepting to review for accuracy is not a peer review.. Not even fucking close. What these volunteers will most likely do is consult with people, and "google" for the consitution, if they see that someone made an edit. OR do you think they have access to original documents, since they are most likely not experts? You are being so short sighted, you keep acting like it's impossible for these web sites to be altered in the future, so it doesn't matter that the government is doing it.. That mentaility is why this country is heading down the shitter..

It's not silly by any means. Your own arrogant, short sighted, stupidity is preventing you from seeing the danger that is sitting right in front of you from a web site. Which i why you think this has to do with the original document, or that it means nothing because you can't rewrite the constitution by changing it on a web site. which is true, btw, but irrelevant. You are not grasping the fact that if you get enough people to believe and accept the bullshit changes.. via a web site(s), specically from a source that is considered a trusted source, the original document becomes useless. The Republican's are attempting to destroy education in this country, Which means as time goes on, there will be fewer and fewer people who can legitimately varify a "historic document" How the fuck do you think this country is in such trouble from all the disinformation the republican's have peddled, which helped create MAGA, when all the factual information is out there ? It's because nobody fucking gave a shit to stop the disinformation and false facts, on various web sites. And here you are now, not giving a shit that the government is/was trying to do it with the consitution.. If you recall, this is the second time.. they will keep testing the waters, and try again until enough people stop giving a shit and ignores it, just like you. They will then expand it to other websites, which could very well include wikipedia, and many of the other sites that are out there. Is it going to happen over night, hell no.. it will be slow flame slowly being turned up.. just like what's been happening. The bottom line is this country, and it's citizens are being attacked from all different angls.. We can't afford to ignore any of them, including their attempts to manipulate people, using government web sites.

It's sad, that you don't reconize that this is one of the vehicles/tools, the Trump administration is using to accomplish the very actions you think are more important. It's all tied together.

edit: a good example of why it's a problem is in the next comment.
edit 2: spelling (probably a lot still there as I suck at spelling).

 

[NWRMidnight]

See THIS is the sort of thing to be outraged about!

Yes, it is something to get outraged about. But If you where someone who didn't know the constitution, how would you know to be outraged over it? You might think that this is the right thing to do. That immigrants shouldn't be counted, etc. You might question it, and decide to go google the constituion, and look for the specific part that talks about the Census, or other parts because of the current administations actions. What would happen if they landed on the government web site, that you think you can trust to read the constittuion, and it's an altered one? What if that site is linked in an article and you trust it because it's the federal government's web site? Would you know to be outraged about this, if Article 1, section 2 or any other related sections, where removed?

This isn't about the educated, it's about the uneducated that don't know any better, who don't know the consitution, or who have forgotten what it says, or who don't understand how our government is supposed to work. The very people who make up the majority of the people in this country, who might someday decide they care enough to learn, or refresh their memory, so they can hold this and other administrations accountable, can be mislead, and manipulated, if we stop carring that the government is putting up altered information. As I told you in the previous response, it's all tied together, and that's why the federal goverment putting up an altered version of the consitution is not "nothing", but very dangerious.

 

[NWRMidnight]

That is not even remotely why they conclude Trump is doing nothing wrong.

First, it's not like those guys were sitting around being like 'I wonder what article 1 section 9 says, I'll go to this one specific website!'. Second, I see this a lot where people think civics education is the solution here as if people don't know what is in the Constitution. The problem is not a lack of knowledge, the problem is they don't care. If you attempt to educate them they will ignore you or fight you.

The best and easiest example of this was the 2020 election. Remember, the entire reason Fox got decimated in the Dominion lawsuit is because they briefly attempted to stop lying to their audience and when they did that the audience revolted and left. That's when they made a conscious choice to return to lying and that's what got them in trouble because it was documented.

Hate to break your ego, but most people don't know the constitution outside of the 1st and 2nd amendment. Hell, majority of our population doesn't even know what the 3 branches of government are, which is layed out in the constitution. It's to the point, it's even questionable if the younger generations are being taught anything about the government or the constitution, and if they are, it's a watered down version that doesn't even cover the basics it seems.

 

[DZero]

It’s almost like he said Dr Peterson isn’t the droid you are looking for. When you liberals glom onto some imaginary political heresy you become as irrational as conservatives.

What the fuck is so wrong about not seeing this as a big deal. Conservatives are as ignorant as to what’s in the Constirution as the are about what’s in the Bible.

Heck, "conservatives" are radicals in fact. They want the monarchies back.

 

[HomerJS]

It’s almost like he said Dr Peterson isn’t the droid you are looking for. When you liberals glom onto some imaginary political heresy you become as irrational as conservatives.

What the fuck is so wrong about the constant gaslighting and lying from this administration. Conservatives are as ignorant as to what’s in the Constirution as the are about what’s in the Bible.

FTFY

 

[Moonbeam]

FTFY

The problem I see and the issue I wish to point out that l want liberals to consider. Ecause of the danger I think it poses to you and others is that we become what we hate because we hate what we are. I think what some refer to as Trump Derangement Syndrome is real, that so many liberals have actually gone around the bend, that so many of them have formed a cult of liberal stereotyped dogma, a sacred religion that if you deviate from in any way you will be stoned to death as a heretic. The righty of thought I see as a result and the fear of deviants so great that real liberalism has flown out the window and what remains is a pack of vicious snapping dogs.

In my opinion fskimospy is at the number one position of posters on this forum who is the most resistant to this insanity.

I don’t give a shit personally regarding the missing portions of the Constitution purportedly missing and apparently now fixed as an accident, or whether it’s all a conscious but rather stupid attempt to slowly unravel the fabric of democracy. Have whatever opinion that toots your horn, but for the sake of human decency, your own by the way, lighten up with the drama queen acts.

A liberal is a person who tends to sees what is without fear of how facts will negatively affect their own inner convictions because such attachments have been severed by reason that should have taken place previously in their psychological development.

Turns out, in my opinion that when push comes to shove and liberal dogma gets challenged the forging of the blade of rational liberalism seems to me in so many cases was defective. What people like that do is bully and assault the sanity of others and in the process make themselves ugly.

Of course I am no better. I absolutely despise intolerance.

Human behaviors are well known and described no more now than by the sages of the ages. What I see in this thread was long ago described as a tempest in a to ea pot, making mountains out of mole hills and all the product in my opinion from victim mentality.

There are facts we call truth and how we react emotionally to seeing what we see. One is real the other the product of conditioning. How sanely we are, how psychologically healthy we are, how positive or negative our presence in the world is depends on how well we se reality without baggage from the past in the form of unexamined assumptions unexamined because there are aspects of truth we do not want to face and trigger happy drama is one way we do it.

 

[HomerJS]

The problem I see and the issue I wish to point out that l want liberals to consider. Ecause of the danger I think it poses to you and others is that we become what we hate because we hate what we are. I think what some refer to as Trump Derangement Syndrome is real, that so many liberals have actually gone around the bend, that so many of them have formed a cult of liberal stereotyped dogma, a sacred religion that if you deviate from in any way you will be stoned to death as a heretic. The righty of thought I see as a result and the fear of deviants so great that real liberalism has flown out the window and what remains is a pack of vicious snapping dogs.

In my opinion fskimospy is at the number one position of posters on this forum who is the most resistant to this insanity.

I don’t give a shit personally regarding the missing portions of the Constitution purportedly missing and apparently now fixed as an accident, or whether it’s all a conscious but rather stupid attempt to slowly unravel the fabric of democracy. Have whatever opinion that toots your horn, but for the sake of human decency, your own by the way, lighten up with the drama queen acts.

A liberal is a person who tends to sees what is without fear of how facts will negatively affect their own inner convictions because such attachments have been severed by reason that should have taken place previously in their psychological development.

Turns out, in my opinion that when push comes to shove and liberal dogma gets challenged the forging of the blade of rational liberalism seems to me in so many cases was defective. What people like that do is bully and assault the sanity of others and in the process make themselves ugly.

Of course I am no better. I absolutely despise intolerance.

Human behaviors are well known and described no more now than by the sages of the ages. What I see in this thread was long ago described as a tempest in a to ea pot, making mountains out of mole hills and all the product in my opinion from victim mentality.

There are facts we call truth and how we react emotionally to seeing what we see. One is real the other the product of conditioning. How sanely we are, how psychologically healthy we are, how positive or negative our presence in the world is depends on how well we se reality without baggage from the past in the form of unexamined assumptions unexamined because there are aspects of truth we do not want to face and trigger happy drama is one way we do it.

In a vacuum you would be correct. However a person who isn’t sure it is their job to defend the Constitution it amounts to yet another .5 deg increase in the temp to the pot of water that contains the frog.

Hint: we are the frog

 

[DZero]

In a vacuum you would be correct. However a person who isn’t sure it is their job to defend the Constitution it amounts to yet another .5 deg increase in the temp to the pot of water that contains the frog.

Hint: we are the frog

Well... the people who defends the changes made by Trump are literally trying to throw some burning charcoals to the pot, the issue? the frog is likely sedated to not to feel the notorious change.

 

[Moonbeam]

EIn a vacuum you’d. it is exactly the same force that drives racism in my opinion…!,”. else’s expendwould be correct. However a person who isn’t sure it is their job to defend the Constitution it amounts to yet another .5 deg increase in the temp to the pot of water that contains Ronda the frog.

Hint: we are the frog

Aside from my lack of conviction one can boil frogs that way, I ask you to tell me how the personal attacks on fskimospy in this thread positively advance the condition of the real world in any way. All I see is the ancient need of self haters to siphon off inner anxiety at the expense of another’s self worth. Self haters can only be cured internally and is perpetuated by putting others down.
The thing about self hate is that it thrives on further and further creation of others to hate.

Why get wound to up by heretical liberals, that very process in action here when you have could as I am, happily watching the right self immolate. Probably you do not trust the reality of the mechanical nature of unconscious motivation, that self hate manifests as moral righteousness in the limited awareness that most people see but as self destruction in reality. Anxiety, fear, suspicion, mistrust are all unhealthy psychological states, all bubbling up from unconscious self hate.

Just simply seeing that cuts the tie to unhealthy self flattery that the negatives are actually real. Be stupid and don’t put your ego attachments into what you believe. You believe you are worthless and in no other way would you ever know what feeling worthless triggers in you as a possibility. Why would not everyone see truth as it is rather than project onto it your unconscious felt truth which is actually only lies.

 

[HomerJS]

Aside from my lack of conviction one can boil frogs that way, I ask you to tell me how the personal attacks on fskimospy in this thread positively advance the condition of the real world in any way. All I see is the ancient need of self haters to siphon off inner anxiety at the expense of another’s self worth. Self haters can only be cured internally and is perpetuated by putting others down.
The thing about self hate is that it thrives on further and further creation of others to hate.

Why get wound to up by heretical liberals, that very process in action here when you have could as I am, happily watching the right self immolate. Probably you do not trust the reality of the mechanical nature of unconscious motivation, that self hate manifests as moral righteousness in the limited awareness that most people see but as self destruction in reality. Anxiety, fear, suspicion, mistrust are all unhealthy psychological states, all bubbling up from unconscious self hate.

Just simply seeing that cuts the tie to unhealthy self flattery that the negatives are actually real. Be stupid and don’t put your ego attachments into what you believe. You believe you are worthless and in no other way would you ever know what feeling worthless triggers in you as a possibility. Why would not everyone see truth as it is rather than project onto it your unconscious felt truth which is actually only lies.

I don’t think I attacked him. Just trying to point out brainwashing/gaslighting is done one drop at a time repeated over and over.

If you can get people adjusted to small lies they will soon be conditioned to believed the bigger ones.

If you want to setup water torture you don’t dump the entire bucket on someone’s head. That just gets them wet. You do it 1 drop at a time over many hours

 

[Moonbeam]

I don’t think I attacked him. Just trying to point out brainwashing/gaslighting is done one drop at a time repeated over and over.

If you can get people adjusted to small lies they will soon be conditioned to believed the bigger ones.

If you want to setup water torture you don’t dump the entire bucket on someone’s head. That just gets them wet. You do it 1 drop at a time over many hours

You felt a need to correct him on the assumption that what you were seeing was him succumbing to brainwashing and gaslighting as a consequence. That can just be a statement of what you think you are seeing with or without attacking his infinite value as a unique one of a kind person whose life for us should be appreciated, or, alternatively, as a heretical threat to humanity and various things between.

But, while I quoted your post not all of it was intended specifically for you. Some posts by others I read as quite unkind as well as bullshit.

I fully understand your concern for the erosion of truth in our society a la 1984. Again, how would you convincing me that iskimospy is a brainwashed gaslighter on lacking serious concern where yours is extensive change the world for the better? I really don’t care who believes what because having an opinion on the topic seems useless to me. What I think doesn’t matter. What I don’t like is stereotyping people for the justification of ridicule. On that I have opinions I feel matter. I can’t change web sites but I can talk to you and some others here. That’s my thing. Not saying I change anything, however, but I do get to address people who can change and I think be the better for it.

 

[mikeymikec]

what a weird thread. It's like fskimposy hasn't been awake for the last 30 years

I think a lot of people still haven't clicked that law and order mean absolutely nothing to the GQP. The GQP wants the law to be on their side, so the law gets rewritten, or there's plenty of other tactics to employ: ignoring it, gaslighting the populace, "suicide", disappearance without due process, getting a note from mummy SCOTUS, etc.

Democracies have fallen plenty of times before, but not many people alive have been there to watch the moment it fell. It's mind-boggling to watch it, so the stages of grief come in handy before the truth can be embraced.

There's not a doubt in any sane person's mind that Donald is a kiddie fiddler / rapist. Likewise there should be a similar certainty that the Epstein files are going to result in legal trouble for him as long as he is President, therefore logically the GQP will do everything to ensure that he is not in any danger legally.

This bit about the Constitution text being altered seemingly falls under gaslighting bullshit, the objective in general is to promote uncertainty, because while the people are uncertain about what's going on, they're not united against the regime.

The Dems should have understood the danger once Donald attempted a coup, but they did not. Any election that doesn't go his way will result in action to ensure he stays in power.

 

[Moonbeam]

I think a lot of people still haven't clicked that law and order mean absolutely nothing to the GQP. The GQP wants the law to be on their side, so either the law gets rewritten, but otherwise there's plenty of other tactics to employ: ignoring it, gaslighting the populace, "suicide", disappearance without due process, getting a note from mummy SCOTUS, etc.

Democracies have fallen plenty of times before, but not many people alive have been there to watch the moment it fell. It's mind-boggling to watch it, so the stages of grief come in handy before the truth can be embraced.

There's not a doubt in any sane person's mind that Donald is a kiddie fiddler / rapist. Likewise there should be a similar certainty that the Epstein files are going to result in legal trouble for him as long as he is President, therefore logically the GQP will do everything to ensure that he is not in any danger legally.

This bit about the Constitution text being altered seemingly falls under gaslighting bullshit, the objective in general is to promote uncertainty, because while the people are uncertain about what's going on, they're not united against the regime.

The Dems should have understood the danger once Donald attempted a coup, but they did not. Any election that doesn't go his way will result in action to ensure he stays in power.

I saw this coming the moment I heard Trump speak as a candidate for the Republican primary pre 2016 presidential election. I saw what he had to say, the perfection of message he delivered and knew that Clinton’s response would be comparatively inept. I warned about the mastery his message contained and the appeal it would have for the American people only to be told I was duped and stupid and that he had the chances of a snowball in hell. And why, because I could feel the tremendous appeal his message had for the monster within me, my dear friend, my conscious awareness I hate myself and the capacity of acceptance of already knowing I hate myself gives me in the form of the absence oof egotistical delusional belief that people in denial of their feelings need to have not to know what I know I feel, being the worst in the world.

You talk about the process of grief without any real understanding it is in front of you and not behind you as you think. And the result, you blame others for their rosy naive beliefs you pass on to them to deny the guilty party is you as well as the rest of us. Do you think it’s a bed of roses to feel what you really feel. You have no idea and that’s how you would like to keep it.

And now you hope to see violence in the form of rebellion against our authoritarian foes to save you the trouble of seeing your own current state, still denying what you feel and projecting your own self hate out there on deaf dumb democrats.

What you say in your post is true but the attitude in which you see it is wrong in my opinion. There is only one battle you need to fight in my opinion and it is the destruction of your self pride. Get rid of that and die. You can defeat only one form of tyranny and it is the prison created by the denial of what you really feel. Can’t you see that you say what you do because you feel hopeless? Feel it. There is no answers out there.

Take a moment to breathe and see the beauty of the world, the one you forgot is there somewhere in your childhood. Have a banana.

 

[Viper1j]

I've decided to give Trump a belated birthday present.

I really hope he enjoys it and plays with it for hours..

Some of you may recognize it.