The three greatest military minds of the last 100 years?

techs

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Here are mine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Fisher
Jackie Fisher.
As First Sea Lord he revolutionized ship design with the Dreadnought. He proposed the all big gun battleship. He put the first turbine engine in a large warship. He pushed for the single fire director on battleships.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J...military_strategist%29
John Boyd.
He invented the Energy-Maneuverability theory that revolutionized US fighters. He almost single handedly designed the F-16 and had major input into the F-15. He also developed the idea of the OODA Loop the process by which an entity (either an individual or an organization) reacts to an event. According to this idea, the key to victory is to be able to create situations wherein one can make appropriate decisions more quickly than one's opponent.
He had a huge impact on the successful strategy for the first Gulf war and the current military philosophy and tactics of the U.S. military.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giap
Vo Nguyen Giap
Revolutionized revolution. His ideas were basically the final outcome of the George Washington theory. Where Washington realized as long as he had an army in the field that was a threat that could occasionally challenge battle, the enemy couldn't defeat him and the war would go on, eventually leading to the other sides reluctance to continue. In effect that the continuation of war rather than actual victory in war would lead to eventual victory. Giap took that further into the idea you didn't even need an army. As long as you could mount enough guerilla attacks to drain your enemy of resources and the will to fight, you would eventually win the war.
 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_J._Pershing
John Joseph "Black Jack" Pershing GCB (September 13, 1860 ? July 15, 1948) was an officer in the United States Army. Pershing is the only person, while still alive, to rise to the highest rank ever held in the United States Army?General of the Armies?equivalent only to the posthumous rank of George Washington. Pershing led the American Expeditionary Force in World War I and was regarded as a mentor by the generation of American generals who led the United States Army in Europe during World War II, including George C. Marshall, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Omar Bradley and George S. Patton.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickover
Admiral Hyman George Rickover, U.S. Navy, (January 27, 1900 or August 24, 1898 ? July 8, 1986) was known as the "Father of the Nuclear Navy", which as of July 2007 had produced 200 nuclear-powered submarines, and 23 nuclear-powered aircraft carriers and cruisers, though many of these U.S. vessels are now decommissioned and others under construction.

With his unique personality, political connections, responsibilities and depth of knowledge regarding naval nuclear propulsion, Rickover became the longest-serving active duty military officer in U.S. history with 63 years of continuous service.

Rickover's substantial legacy of technical achievements includes the U.S. Navy's continuing record of zero reactor accidents, as defined by the uncontrolled release of fission products subsequent to reactor core damage.
 

SSSnail

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Originally posted by: techs
As long as you could mount enough guerilla attacks to drain your enemy of resources and the will to fight, you would eventually win the war.

That seems awfully familiar to some recent conflicts... hmmm...
 

BeauJangles

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The "greatest military mind" could mean a lot of things. Are we talking tactician, general, or theorist?

Regardless, I'd say that Sir Basil Liddell Hart's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Liddell_Hart) contributions to modern warfare are unparalleled. His publications, though widely read in Britain, France, and Germany only gained traction in German military circles. By the late 1920s, Germany had surpassed Britain's commitment to tank warfare. From Hart's publications Germany formed the Panzer groups and developed their close air support doctrine.
 

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Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
No Rommel?

rommel is overrated. he didn't have the understanding of logistics needed to win the campaign in northern africa. by pulling away units necessary to protect his supply lines from the british at malta he forced his own halt outside of cairo.
 

nakedfrog

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Aw, man... when I first looked at the topic I thought I read "greatest musical minds" and I was trying to figure it out... but then I saw what it really said.
 

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: ITJunkie
Zapp Brannigan Wiki

"of the last 100 years" ;)

oops...my bad :D

Seriously though, what about Patton?
(from wiki) "The popular image of "Old Blood and Guts" contrasts with historians' image of a brilliant military leader whose record was marred by insubordination and reckless behavior."
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
No Rommel?

rommel is overrated. he didn't have the understanding of logistics needed to win the campaign in northern africa. by pulling away units necessary to protect his supply lines from the british at malta he forced his own halt outside of cairo.

What?! I agree that Rommel is remembered all-too well, but I disagree with your assessment. Rommel was given operational control over North Africa, I do not believe his authority extended to any Italian / German naval ships that would have been necessary to attack Malta. Beyond a direct attack, the Germans didn't commit many troops to the African coast to ward against a potential Allied invasion from Malta - the forces situated on the island were far too small to be effective in that capacity. He had no control over the logistics which constantly hampered his operations and he made the best with what he had.

Rommel's loss in North Africa was not because of his ineptitude, but because the Germans were not committed to winning there. Upon assuming command he was supposed to maintain a defensive posture and reinforce the Italian troops there - instead he went on the offensive and continued to do so despite his constant lack of supplies and manpower. Ultimately, he made a few relatively costly errors, attacking when he should not have and these errors, combined with growing Allied might basically sealed his fate in North Africa.

Again, Rommel gets too much credit as "the" German general. Perhaps part of that is because he didn't buy into Nazism (at least openly) many people dissociate him from the "other" Germans. While he was a great leader, there were a number of other Germans who were equally, if not more, impressive. One who immediately springs to mind is Von Manstein. The counterattacks he organized after the collapse of Operation Blau basically saved the German front and, although he can be criticized for not standing up to Hitler more often, his generalship led the Germans to the doorstep of victory in 1941.

Comparing the two is difficult. Manstein operated at a much higher level than Rommel.
 

dainthomas

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Originally posted by: ITJunkie
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: ITJunkie
Zapp Brannigan Wiki

"of the last 100 years" ;)

oops...my bad :D

Seriously though, what about Patton?
(from wiki) "The popular image of "Old Blood and Guts" contrasts with historians' image of a brilliant military leader whose record was marred by insubordination and reckless behavior."

He has to be top two or three. I heard somewhere that his behavior likely was a symptom of a head injury from when he was younger. If true, it's amazing to think how great he would have been otherwise. Eisenhower would never have been promoted ahead of him, and he could have been president instead.
 

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Wernher Magnus Maximilian von Braun

Yeah. Yeah. I know.

Not a 'military' mind ...

But I'll take his rockets and blow yer brilliant military minds to sheet .... :D

And he knew well the military applications of his work ...
 

AndrewR

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I'd agree on Giap; disagree on the other two with the OP. Boyd got some things right, but he was a little whacko. His concentric rings theory is BS, for instance. While the Navy stuff is impressive, the dreadnought was shortlived, and wars are won on the ground, not at sea.

Anyway, Rommel wasn't the best German strategist of the war. That should rightly go to Guderian (who took Hart's theories and made them a reality) or perhaps Manstein, whom Guderian considered to be the greatest German general. The amazing thing to consider is that there are so many to consider on the German side.

For a third? I'd probably pick Zhukov.