The Terrorists are coming!!!

hypn0tik

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http://government.zdnet.com/?p=4387

A company that monitors P2P networks says it found details about the president?s helicoper, Marine One, on a computer in Tehran. Pittsburgh station WPXI reports.

Bob Boback, CEO of Tiversa, said, ?We found a file containing entire blueprints and avionics package for Marine One. ? What appears to be a defense contractor in Bethesda, MD had a file sharing program on one of their systems that also contained highly sensitive blueprints for Marine One,? Boback said.

Retired Gen. Wesley Clark, an adviser to Tiversa, added:

We found where this information came from. We know exactly what computer it came from. I?m sure that person is embarrassed and may even lose their job, but we know where it came from and we know where it went.

It?s no acceident the information wound up in Iran, the company said. Countries like Iran, Pakistan, Yemen, Qatar and China are ?actively searching for information that is disclosed in this fashion because it is a great source of intelligence,? Boback said.

Rep. Jason Altmire said he will ask Congress to investigate the risk to national security of this sort of exposure.

Cnet?s Charles Cooper interviewed the Tiversa?s Sam Hopkins (Cooper says he?s the CEO but the original report said Boback is CEO; the company website doesn?t list executives), who said someone at the company was running a Gnutella client - possible a buggy one.

Hopkins said it?s hardly an unusual occurence - although presumably the usual breaches aren?t so closely connected to the President.

Everybody uses (P2P). Everybody. We see classified information leaking all the time. When the Iraq war got started, we knew what U.S. troops were doing because G.I.?s who wanted to listen to music would install software on secure computers and it got compromised. ? We see information flying out there to Iran, China, Syria, Qatar?you name it. There?s so much out there that sometimes we can?t keep up with it.

Bottom line: P2P is the biggest disaster for security ?of all time.?

We?ve had people come into our data center and we?ve shown them things that are out there on P2P and they go away with their minds blown.
 

LtPage1

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Link to blueprints? I'm picturing some nuclear engineer keeping his torrent tracker's ratio up by trading H-bomb schematics for lossless Springsteen albums, or something.

Seriously though, that's a little scary. I'm not that worried about Marine One (I imagine that it shows upgraded armor and a larger fuel tank, oh noes), but the "things that are out there on P2P" worry me. People need to not be idiots and install Limewire on DoD work machines.
 

dahunan

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P2P is not the problem... Stupid Humans are the problem... nice try politicians...

 

irishScott

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Originally posted by: LtPage1
Link to blueprints? I'm picturing some nuclear engineer keeping his torrent tracker's ratio up by trading H-bomb schematics for lossless Springsteen albums, or something.

Seriously though, that's a little scary. I'm not that worried about Marine One (I imagine that it shows upgraded armor and a larger fuel tank, oh noes), but the "things that are out there on P2P" worry me. System admins need to not be idiots and restrict permissions so no one outside of admins can install Limewire on DoD work machines.

Fixed.
 

LtPage1

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Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: LtPage1
Link to blueprints? I'm picturing some nuclear engineer keeping his torrent tracker's ratio up by trading H-bomb schematics for lossless Springsteen albums, or something.

Seriously though, that's a little scary. I'm not that worried about Marine One (I imagine that it shows upgraded armor and a larger fuel tank, oh noes), but the "things that are out there on P2P" worry me. System admins need to not be idiots and restrict permissions so no one outside of admins can install Limewire on DoD work machines.

Fixed.

QFT. also 5555 posts. Woot.
 

Nik

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I'm honestly surprised the specs could have been hidden so long considering those dinosaur helos were designed back in the 60's. Good thing Obama just ordered a fleet of 26 new ones designed and built. Old ones are going to the mothball fleet.
 

alkemyst

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probably self-leaked to get a new contract on a redesign. A lot of DoD types are fed up with Obama calling to pull contracts. He was against the Marine One concept already.
 

Zim Hosein

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Originally posted by: Nik
I'm honestly surprised the specs could have been hidden so long considering those dinosaur helos were designed back in the 60's. Good thing Obama just ordered a fleet of 26 new ones designed and built. Old ones are going to the mothball fleet.

26! How many "Marine One's" are there? :confused:

 

MotF Bane

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Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Originally posted by: Nik
I'm honestly surprised the specs could have been hidden so long considering those dinosaur helos were designed back in the 60's. Good thing Obama just ordered a fleet of 26 new ones designed and built. Old ones are going to the mothball fleet.

26! How many "Marine One's" are there? :confused:

Marine One is a call-sign issued to the helicopter that the President is riding it at the immediate moment. They keep a bunch of identical helicopters around, better to have spares, easier for maintenance, lets you have a chase helicopter, et cetera.
 
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Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Originally posted by: Nik
I'm honestly surprised the specs could have been hidden so long considering those dinosaur helos were designed back in the 60's. Good thing Obama just ordered a fleet of 26 new ones designed and built. Old ones are going to the mothball fleet.

26! How many "Marine One's" are there? :confused:

only one. "Marine One" is whatever helo POTUS is flying on.

As far as the HMX-1 squadron, IIRC it has over 600 marines and 75 aircraft.
 

Zim Hosein

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Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Originally posted by: Nik
I'm honestly surprised the specs could have been hidden so long considering those dinosaur helos were designed back in the 60's. Good thing Obama just ordered a fleet of 26 new ones designed and built. Old ones are going to the mothball fleet.

26! How many "Marine One's" are there? :confused:

Marine One is a call-sign issued to the helicopter that the President is riding it at the immediate moment. They keep a bunch of identical helicopters around, better to have spares, easier for maintenance, lets you have a chase helicopter, et cetera.

I am aware that "Marine One" is the call-sign used just like "Air Force One," but I was wondering how many "identical" helos there were. :confused:
 

MotF Bane

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Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Originally posted by: Nik
I'm honestly surprised the specs could have been hidden so long considering those dinosaur helos were designed back in the 60's. Good thing Obama just ordered a fleet of 26 new ones designed and built. Old ones are going to the mothball fleet.

26! How many "Marine One's" are there? :confused:

Marine One is a call-sign issued to the helicopter that the President is riding it at the immediate moment. They keep a bunch of identical helicopters around, better to have spares, easier for maintenance, lets you have a chase helicopter, et cetera.

I am aware that "Marine One" is the call-sign used just like "Air Force One," but I was wondering how many "identical" helos there were. :confused:

Oh, sorry. I don't know the number. :(
 

duragezic

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So the new Marine One design was leaked or the current one?? The communications equipment, especially on the new one, would be a large concern I'd imagine.

I still don't get why the contract was awarded to Lockheed when I don't believe they currently build any helicopters otherwise. Sure they are partnered with AW but still.
 

Exterous

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Originally posted by: duragezic
So the new Marine One design was leaked or the current one?? The communications equipment, especially on the new one, would be a large concern I'd imagine.

I still don't get why the contract was awarded to Lockheed when I don't believe they currently build any helicopters otherwise. Sure they are partnered with AW but still.

They do and they are constantly competing for new DOD helicopter contracts - doesn't mean they always win
 

brandonbull

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Why do they seem to have retards running computer security on top secret computer networks? It ok to install whatever on top secret government computers but you are locked out of your local library computer network.
 

manowar821

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The war on free information continues. Special interests and the architects of them need to die in a fucking fire.

Actually, I consider any attack such as this to be an assault on the human race as a whole. It's inhumane, and a human rights violation.