The term,'Anchor Baby', may be history in Arizona

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The Gulf is being murdered but, maybe there is HOPE yet in other things!

http://www.kpho.com/print/23623047/detail.html

----'Anchor Babies' Could Be Ariz.'s Next Target
Immigration Enforcement Debate May Not Stop With SB 1070

Morgan Loew

CBS5 Investigative Reporter

POSTED: 12:32 pm MST May 20, 2010
UPDATED: 12:11 pm MST May 24, 2010
PHOENIX -- E-mails to and from Ariz.state Sen. Russell Pearce reveal the immigration enforcement debate may not stop with SB 1070, the controversial immigration law.

Pearce, R-Mesa, the author of Arizona’s immigration law, has been writing to some of his constituents about what he plans to accomplish next.

In e-mails obtained by CBS 5 News, Pearce said he intends to push for a bill that would enable Arizona to no longer grant citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants born on U.S. soil.

Pearce wrote in one e-mail: "I also intend to push for an Arizona bill that would refuse to accept or issue a birth certificate that recognizes citizenship to those born to illegal aliens, unless one parent is a citizen."
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* Document: E-mails To And From Pearce

CBS 5 Investigates looked through hundreds of e-mails Pearce had sent to constituents and some of their replies. The e-mails varied from praise to criticism and outlined Pearce’s future plans. Most were about SB 1070, his immigration law.

E-mails from the law’s supporters outnumbered those from critics by seven to one.

One supporter wrote, "I think it is about time we take our state and country back from the Mexicans."

One opponent wrote, "Mr. Pearce, you are a sick, racist bigot..."

Pearce replied to some opponents: "Do you not care about the deaths…maimings…billions in cost to America..."

One of the more remarkable e-mails sent to a list of supporters detailed his next steps. The e-mail, several pages long, includes articles critical of the 14th Amendment, which gives babies born on U.S. soil automatic citizenship.

One of the e-mails written by someone else but forwarded by Pearce reads: "If we are going to have an effect on the anchor baby racket, we need to target the mother. Call it sexist, but that's the way nature made it. Men don't drop anchor babies, illegal alien mothers do."

In response, Pearce sent two e-mails to CBS 5 News that contain some of the reasoning he used to conclude that children of illegal immigrants should not be granted citizenship. He also said he's disappointed when people think he's mean spirited because he stands for America.

Pearce said his new idea is not only legal but it's also constitutional.

“It’s common sense,” Pearce said. “Again -- you can’t break into someone’s country and then expect to be rewarded for that. You can’t do it.”

When Pearce was shown the e-mail referring to “anchor babies” that he forwarded, he said he didn’t find anything wrong with the language.

“It’s somebody’s opinion… What they’re trying to say is it’s wrong, and I agree with them. It’s wrong,” said Pearce.

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theeedude

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Wait, so if a baby is born in Arizona, they are not necessarily going to certify that that baby was born in Arizona?
 

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And they actually expect this to stand up to the equal protection clause of the US Constitution? That baby is a US citizen, entitled to all the same rights and protections as any other US citizen.
 
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Back on track.

It's Patriotic to want the best for our citizens. It's also Pro-American to not allowing our country to be invaded.

I support the efforts Legal Immigrants put in and it's not fair to them for Illegals to jump ahead of them.

If a kid has an Illegal Mother and a Legal parent, the Mother needs deporting but, the kid is a citizen and can stay with the legal parent.

One thing a law like this could do is, make our country less attractive to border jumpers.


Be a great American! Report and demand Deportations!
 
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And they actually expect this to stand up to the equal protection clause of the US Constitution? That baby is a US citizen, entitled to all the same rights and protections as any other US citizen.
If you read the proposal, you will see it's constitutional.

A baby born to an Illegal Mother is not and should not be an automatic citizen. Verifying Immigration status is legal now.

If there is a father and he is legal or a citizen, he can keep the child while the Mother needs deporting.
 

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If you read the proposal, you will see it's constitutional.

A baby born to an Illegal Mother is not and should not be an automatic citizen. Verifying Immigration status is legal now.

If there is a father and he is legal or a citizen, he can keep the child while the Mother needs deporting.
Wrong. Amendment XIV:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
 

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11k anchor brats are born in texas every year. do the math. if the parents aren't legal why should the spawn be legal??
 

theeedude

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If you read the proposal, you will see it's constitutional.

A baby born to an Illegal Mother is not and should not be an automatic citizen. Verifying Immigration status is legal now.

If there is a father and he is legal or a citizen, he can keep the child while the Mother needs deporting.

14th Amendment states that Any person born in the US is an automatic US Citizen.
You can verify immigration status of the parents all week long and twice on Sunday, won't change the fact that the baby born here is a US citizen.
 

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11k anchor brats are born in texas every year. do the math. if the parents aren't legal why should the spawn be legal??

Because these "anchor brats" "spawn" as you degenerates call it are US citizens, just like you, if you are one.
Why should you be legal?
 

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To CycloWizard and Senseamp:
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theeedude

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If the pieces of human waste that run Arizona so far as attempt to deny US Citizen babies their equal protection rights, the federal government needs to put the hammer down on them, hard.
1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

Of course your average conservative ignoramus stopped reading after 2nd Amendment, and skipped the 1st.
 
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Wrong. Amendment XIV:

According to the new law, before a Mother is admitted, they will need to verify Immigration status.

Federal Law mandates Immigrants have on their person, at all times, their status papers.

If they have none, before a certificate is issued, Law Enforcement will be contacted.

If the Mother is found to be Illegal, she and her baby will be subject to deportation


The Feds won't help. The states have every right to enforce Immigration Law.

Constitutionally speaking, Hussein and Napolitano are negligent in their sworn obligations. Check Section 4, Article 4 of our Constitution.
 

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According to the new law, before a Mother is admitted, they will need to verify Immigration status.

Federal Law mandates Immigrants have on their person, at all times, their status papers.

If they have none, before a certificate is issued, Law Enforcement will be contacted.

If the Mother is found to be Illegal, she and her baby will be subject to deportation


The Feds won't help. The states have every right to enforce Immigration Law.

Constitutionally speaking, Hussein and Napolitano are negligent in their sworn obligations. Check Section 4, Article 4 of our Constitution.
If a baby is born here, it is a citizen. It's in the Constitution. Check the first sentence of Amendment XIV. You can type in bold all you want, but it won't change the facts. I am not saying that I like it, but there is little room for interpretation there.
 

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According to the new law, before a Mother is admitted, they will need to verify Immigration status.

Federal Law mandates Immigrants have on their person, at all times, their status papers.

If they have none, before a certificate is issued, Law Enforcement will be contacted.

If the Mother is found to be Illegal, she and her baby will be subject to deportation


The Feds won't help. The states have every right to enforce Immigration Law.

Constitutionally speaking, Hussein and Napolitano are negligent in their sworn obligations. Check Section 4, Article 4 of our Constitution.

Inform yourself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Act
The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is a U.S. Act of Congress passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospitals and ambulance services to provide care to anyone needing emergency healthcare treatment regardless of citizenship, legal status or ability to pay. There are no reimbursement provisions. As a result of the act, patients needing emergency treatment can be discharged only under their own informed consent or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer the treatment.
EMTALA applies to "participating hospitals", i.e., those that accept payment from the Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) under the Medicare program. However, in practical terms, EMTALA applies to virtually all hospitals in the U.S., with the exception of the Shriners Hospitals for Children, Indian Health Service hospitals, and Veterans Affairs hospitals[citation needed]. The combined payments of Medicare and Medicaid, $602 billion in 2004,[2] or roughly 44% of all medical expenditures in the U.S., make not participating in EMTALA impractical for nearly all hospitals. EMTALA's provisions apply to all patients, and not just to Medicare patients.[3][4]

Federal law supersedes AZ law.
Hospitals that refuse to admit a mother about to give birth will lose Medicare participation and likely will go out of business VERY quickly.
 
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If a baby is born here, it is a citizen. It's in the Constitution. Check the first sentence of Amendment XIV. You can type in bold all you want, but it won't change the facts. I am not saying that I like it, but there is little room for interpretation there.
OK. It will be challenged. I got a good feeling Arizona and all the other states that enact these types of Laws will win out.

BTW, I type in bold so I don't have to squint to read it.
 
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