The TeAm needs all the crunchers it can get ...

petrusbroder

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As you can see here, TeAm AnandTech has dropped two ranks in the team list of all BOINC-projects combined.
We have been passed by the steam rolling Team 2ch - a Chinese team and by XtremeSystems - in less than 4 days.

And there are several threats: Canada, Planet3Dnow!, BOINC@Australia, Einstein@work, who all produce very much more than we.

Please put more computers on the BOINC-projects, every credit counts and is appreciated.
Please recruit more crunchers: family, relatives, co-workers, please persuade your employers to allow crunching when the comps are not used; if you need help configuring them, please ask.

It would be sad to see one of the traditional teams, on of the oldest crunching communities, one of the friendliest bunch of crunchers to drop out from the top-10!


Edit: In a post further down I have added a list of needing projects.
 

petrusbroder

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Any project needs crunching, as long as it helps the TeAm in "Combined BOINC". Picking an efficient project, such as Einstein@home or QMC@Home helps a lot.

The following projects need help:
Sztaki Desktop Grid: BOINCStats will pass us within 1 day, we have lost 2 ranks in one month.
Riesel sieve: KWSN (The knights...) will pass us within 2 days, Technutopia within 3 days, 4 other teams within 3 months.
Pirates@home: 3 teams (among them Canada) will pass us in 2 - 4 days, 9 other teams within 3 months.
ABC@Home: Team Art Bell passes within 5 days, 14 other teams within 3 months, and we have lost 12 ranks in the past month.
The Lattice project: SwissTeam.net passes us within 7 days, three teams will overtake us within 40 days, .
TANPAKU: we will be passed by PC Perspective Killer Frogs and Canada withing 11 days.
Rectilinear Crossing Number: SETI.Germany within 11 days, BOINC@Australia within a month.
Einstein@home: Nordlichter will pass us in 14 days, 2 other teams in three months, we have dropped 3 ranks in one month.
ClimatePrediction.Net: BOINC@Australia passes with 28 days, BOINCStats within 57 days.
PrimeGrid: SETI.USA passes within 27 days.
Chess960@home: The Scottish BOINC Team passes within 30 days, 3 other teams within three months, we have dropped one rank in one month.
LHC@Home: Uptime Games Super Crunch passes within 35 days, one other team within 3 months.
Spinhenge@home: 4 teams will pass us within 40 days, we have lost 6 ranks within one month.
Seti@home: we will be passed by Seti@Taiwan within 50 days, two other teams within 3 months.
XtremeLab: we will be passed by Russia Team in less than 50 days.
QMC@Home: XtremeSystems will pass us within 51 days, three other teams within 3 months.
Proteins@home: boinc@cz in 58 days, one other team within 3 months.
µFluids: we will be passed by the Czech National Team within 190 days.
BURP: we have dropped one rank this month, will be overtaken in more than 4 months.

In this compilation I have concentrated on projects which accept new crunchers, in which we will be passed within 100 days and where the TeAm has a tangible presence.

Please join. Some of these projects are long TeAm-favorites: seti@home started it all, QMC@home, Einstein@home, µFluids and ClimatePrediction.Net have been long time the strong points of the TeAm. Let us do something again!

Petrus waves at amd.borg.
 

amdxborg

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Borg waves at Peter from DPAD..

It's really bad to hear TA is dropping in the Boinc stats, due to the fact that I moved all my Boinc production to DPAD I will also loose my nr.1 world rank in QMC in a short while.. what a sad day that will be for me. I just got a little tired of Boincing and needed a a new battle! Sorry guys, gotto go where the challange is for now..
 

Alyx

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2ch is sure cruising past folks right now. They have twice our output on Folding@Home now, although it'll be some time yet before they pass us. I'll look into projects and probably move my main cruncher over for a while.

How many credits per day can you get with a 3.0GHz Core2Duo? Also does it scale better than Folding@Home. For example my Core2Duo is 1k PPD while my P4 machines are only 100-200, it wouldn't be much to take them off folding if they'll benefit more on BOINC.
 

Amaroque

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Well, I really want to retake 1st in DPAD.

After that, I can crunch other projects full time.
 

Philippart

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Maybe a huge competition can make people put all they have into crunching. Some other teams organize such competitions divising their team in a number of subteams often. Xtremeystems had one in WCG recently.

What do you think of the idea?

Sadly TAS isn't strong enough yet to be an opponent to the rest of the team.

The 1 year running totals:

1 year running total ________________ TAS _________ TeAm Anandtech ___ TAS' production in % of TA's
Feb 2006 -> Jan 2007 ____________ 5 630 793.60 ______ 19 224 339.91 ____ 29%
Nov 2005 -> Oct 2006 ____________ 5 508 565.59 ______ 20 349 418.15 ____ 27%
Oct 2005 -> Sep 2006 ____________ 5 157 759.59 ______ 19 596 362.15 ____ 26%
Sep 2005 -> Aug 2006 ____________ 4 989 465.43 ______ 19 669 036.02 ____ 25%

Maybe we could organize a temporary subteam for this competition, in other words:
TeAm Anandtech vs. TAS vs. New Team

Considering that if everybody makes an effort, TAS can reach about 33.33% of our Teams total contribution. TeAm Anandtech would consist of all the random members who don't vistit the forums (regularly) and the New Team of all the active forumers who aren't part of TAS.

In case we decide to only crunch one project, it obviously has to be a more or less big project, to prevent it from running out of work.
 

TallBill

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I'm pretty sure that its just the introduction of so many new teams that are focused on just one project. All of the big cross project teams such as ourselves are facing this.
 

Smoke

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BOINC teams sorted by RAC

This way of looking at the same stats indicates our current production level will eventually find us in 18th position. This is definitely not the lofty levels we have seen in the past but we must remember this is only counting BOINC projects. We are still quite a force in other realms. ;)

Look (in the above sorted report) at those nearby us and you will find some very familiar names. We're still in good company. :)

It would only take a little more to put us ahead of some of our ancient competitors. So, I agree with petrusbroder and historic TeAm voices from the past:

:beer: More! :beer: :D :beer: More! :beer: :D :beer: More! :beer:
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:beer: More! :beer: :D :beer: More! :beer: :D :beer: More! :beer:
 

TurtleBlue

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Concentrating on F@H right now to help stave off some upstart group from passing in about a month!

Besides, I don't do Boinc :evil:

Before you all start jumping down my gullet for acting like a 10 year old about this for about 4 months this year I have come to the fire call from dpad & SoB and have did what little I could for them.

I don't have the kind of equipment or access to farms like some of you guys & dolls do to spread myself around to various projects.

I returned to F@H upon finding out that my mum is possibly suffering from dementia. This is the least I can do (crunching wise) to do something about this terrible, terrible disease that one sees in a love one. :brokenheart:

Sorry about the rant - Good luck in your endevors to lift the team up back to glory. :beer:
 

The Borg

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Well, I am still doing my bit with RCN.

I suspect the slip in production compared to the other teams is possibly due to the age of some of our equipment. I am running a lot of processors, but they are almost 2 year old vintage. Newer Core 2 Duo's and Quads must be doing better. So until we do a round of upgrades, we will slip a little. Our famrs will not complete against new tech farms.

I plan to expand my fard sometime next year with a few Quads. Until then I crunch away and try to maintain stability in produciton.

Go TeAm!!!
 

irishScott

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I've got a P3 1 GHz Coppermine Crunching Rosetta 24/7, and 2 CPDN WUs on a Core Duo T2500 laptop about 15 hours per day or so. Can't do much else. :(
 

Rudy Toody

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Originally posted by: Philippart
Maybe a huge competition can make people put all they have into crunching. Some other teams organize such competitions divising their team in a number of subteams often. Xtremeystems had one in WCG recently.

What do you think of the idea?

That's what the TAS Mini-Race Championship belt is all about---fleet against fleet. It'll be run every even-numbered month.
 

Philippart

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Yes, I know, I'm member of TAS ;)

I meant an even bigger competiton, involving everybody.
 

RobertE

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Just for some comparissions, my C2D 6320 is beating all my other rigs like stepchildren. Its sad. The 6320 has a higher RAC alone vs my P4 2.8, AMD 2800+, Celeron M 430 combined.

On Rosetta is 416.09 vs 358.3
Einstein is 580.66 vs 531.05

I'm really considering building another identical rig to use as a home media center and retire the P4 & 2800 or even going to a C2D quad after the price drops.

The power/heat savings would be well worth it.
 

Crazee

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I know we recently had some successful recruiting threads that helped some so we can't ask for them again so soon, but what about some team members writing up some articles about DC and submitting them for the AT website. They would need to about advances and changes in DC from the computing aspect so they would fit the theme of the site. They couldn't be recruiting pitches, but can mention the TeAm at the end. When front page articles have been done, the additions to TeAm membership has been incredible.

I know there are people here who remember the welcome threads I posted for the Seti team a few years back where I had 20-30 people in a thread and had to do 2-4 threads a day. They were the result of some front page exposure on the website. I would like to say that I can do it, but my time as evident by my posting is much more limited now than in the past.
 

RaySun2Be

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Sorry about the rant - Good luck in your endevors to lift the team up back to glory.

No need to apologize, TurtleBlue. This TeAm has always been about each doing what they can. Sometimes I've had access to some pretty good crunchers, sometimes, like now, very little.

And everyone should be free to crunch the project(s) they want without pressure or judgement from anyone else, especially TeAm members!

AND if anyone does give you a hard time, send them to me, I'm just itching to try out the new trout cane! :evil:

Every contribution is important! :D
 

petrusbroder

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Originally posted by: TurtleBlue
Concentrating on F@H right now to help stave off some upstart group from passing in about a month!

Besides, I don't do Boinc :evil:

Before you all start jumping down my gullet for acting like a 10 year old about this for about 4 months this year I have come to the fire call from dpad & SoB and have did what little I could for them.

I don't have the kind of equipment or access to farms like some of you guys & dolls do to spread myself around to various projects.

I returned to F@H upon finding out that my mum is possibly suffering from dementia. This is the least I can do (crunching wise) to do something about this terrible, terrible disease that one sees in a love one. :brokenheart:

Sorry about the rant - Good luck in your endeavors to lift the team up back to glory. :beer:

TurtleBlue, I hope you do not feel pressured. That was not the intention.
I know that you have helped in DPAD and SoB; quite a few of your TeAm mates know you crunch for Folding@home.
Your crunching is very much appreciated - no matter what you crunch.

I am sorry to learn that the reason behind your choice of project is your own mother's tragic disease. Please accept my sincere sympathy, as a MD and as a son I know what a family goes through when a loved one starts loosing her/his memory and functions.

There is no tradition in TA to pressure team-mates to do anything else than what each member wants to. The strength (and perhaps also a weakness) of TA is the freedom of choice. Choice has to based of good information.

I started this thread because I wanted to make the TeAm mates aware of the TeAm's position so that each and every one could make an informed decision about his/her crunching. That was and remains my intention.

As Ray said: If anybody causes you any trouble please let me know, and I and the entire Fort CD crew - of which you are a honored member - will jump onto the official transportation and scoot over to your support! ;)


Edit: Well, would you know: spelling!
 

Alyx

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Quick question. I've got two computers sharing a network connection here. One is running DPAD, it will always have network, I'm looking for a project to run on the second that I can que up a few days of work on and then plug the network in every couple days to submit results and get get more units. The computer is also quite slow (2.0 P4) so possibly a project that scales well. Anyone know of a project that will let me do this?
 

amdxborg

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Well you could actually use DPAD wo a network connection since it doesn't dl work to crunch, it only uploads whenever the results.txt file reaches 100kb or you can manually send the results by running manualsend.bat whenever you feel like it. You could also move the results.txt file to another pc and send it from there.
 

Alyx

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I guess I'll throw DPAD on it too. That will make life less confusing.
 

Assimilator1

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So many projects ,so few rigs! :( (me that is).
All my net connected remote rigs are running SETI ,my 2 home rigs are running DPAD (2nd one is rarely on) & will be for a little while as I want to pass Darkone & help the team get to No1 past DPC :) ,after that I plan to run Rossetta for a while.
Though I'm also tempted by F@H GPU as I now have a X1950 Pro.

Their is a possibility I could re-recruite a couple of rigs from an old work mate for SETI ,I must join him at the pub for a few :beer:s..........now that's the kind of recruiting I like to do! :D

Originally posted by: Philippart
Maybe a huge competition can make people put all they have into crunching. Some other teams organize such competitions divising their team in a number of subteams often. Xtremeystems had one in WCG recently.

What do you think of the idea?

Sadly TAS isn't strong enough yet to be an opponent to the rest of the team.

The 1 year running totals:

1 year running total ________________ TAS _________ TeAm Anandtech ___ TAS' production in % of TA's
Feb 2006 -> Jan 2007 ____________ 5 630 793.60 ______ 19 224 339.91 ____ 29%
Nov 2005 -> Oct 2006 ____________ 5 508 565.59 ______ 20 349 418.15 ____ 27%
Oct 2005 -> Sep 2006 ____________ 5 157 759.59 ______ 19 596 362.15 ____ 26%
Sep 2005 -> Aug 2006 ____________ 4 989 465.43 ______ 19 669 036.02 ____ 25%

Maybe we could organize a temporary subteam for this competition, in other words:
TeAm Anandtech vs. TAS vs. New Team

Considering that if everybody makes an effort, TAS can reach about 33.33% of our Teams total contribution. TeAm Anandtech would consist of all the random members who don't vistit the forums (regularly) and the New Team of all the active forumers who aren't part of TAS.

In case we decide to only crunch one project, it obviously has to be a more or less big project, to prevent it from running out of work.
Wow! ,didn't know TAs was so powerful!:Q:cool:

TurtleBlue
Sorry to hear about your mum :(
Rig wise ,you're in the same boat as me.