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ProfJohn

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Funny thing... if republicans were back in full control, this budget thing would become moot overnight, as was the case when GW was in charge. Let’s face it, the whole budget discussion is just hot air. Republicans had no problem spending all of the CLinton surplus. It's just that suddenly when the bill arrives in the mail, republicans freak out. Or pretend to.....
And when Bush was spending the Democrats thought it was a horrible thing.

But not that Obama is spending we 'need' that money...
 

marincounty

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"....print hundreds of trillions of dollars more in cash to give to Toyota, France, Libya, and many more dubious outlays with no cost?"
The Toyota Tundra has the most American made content of any full-size truck you can buy, more than the best-selling Ford F-150. Why do Ford buyers hate America?
 

Acanthus

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It's exactly the right time, and the right issue.

Obama is on TV, almost crying to Spend more, Tax more.

Meanwhile most of America is looking for less spending, less taxation, less regulation.

-John

Wholly false, and you know it.

The public wants tax increases on the wealthy and austerity measures.
 

Zorkorist

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Wholly false, and you know it.

The public wants tax increases on the wealthy and austerity measures.
Government keep talking anout taxing the rich.

Normal people realize that it is the rich, that give them a job.

-John
 

Zorkorist

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We'ed like to fuck the American People, drive them to bankruptcy, reduce their Government to ruble.

-John
 

Craig234

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Government keep talking anout taxing the rich.

Normal people realize that it is the rich, that give them a job.

-John

Ah another brainwashed Stockholm Syndrome worship the rich peasant.

Tonight, I had an anecdote happen that reminded me how easy it is to fall into that. I was thinking about two branches of Taco Bell, where one stays open later.

My first reaction was, 'people should appreciate the franchise owner who chose to be open more hours'.

Then I thought, wait a sec, what about the workers who actually stay up to 2AM or 4AM? THEY'RE the ones who deserve appreciation. But that might not even occur to us.

The owner might make the choice, but for him it's about the money while he's asleep at home. But it's a natural reaction to appreciate the top.

I recently heard a 'small business owner' who usually makes in the top 2% of incomes comment on this. He said 'I don't create jobs. The middle class creates jobs.'

He's right. Give a rich person a bunch of money and a bit will go into 'investing in a business creating jobs' - IF and pretty much only if there's the demand to justify it. Other part will just bid up the prices of assets he's buying. If he buys gold, it pushes gold up; if he buys a new house, it pushes up the price of those houses; if he buys a company, it pushes up the prices of companies.

But if the money goes to consumers, upon which 2/3 of the economy has been based, it fuels jobs and the economy. THAT'S what creates jobs, not the guy who happens to own the business.

There's a 'peasant mentality' I am concerned can take hold in society when democracy is weak and concentration of wealth is high. You saw the same sort of Stockholm Syndrome take hold in societies under powerful authoritarians like Stalin and Mao - you see it now in North Korea. There was a documentary where a doctor visited and restored sight with operations out of charity to hundreds of people. The moment the bandages came off, they were crying and happy, and began - sincerely IMO - praising how grateful they were to 'Dear Leader', not a word for the doctor.

The same thing can happen here, and has quite a bit. I look at West Virginia's reaction to its corrupt mining companies - who were self-righteous about government being useless for miner safety while the owner cared, when the facts showed he was a scumball greedy corner-cutter on safety - and ask why the people don't take action more. They seem to have fallen into that sort of Stockholm Syndrome because the industry is so powerful, and 'gives them jobs'.

The Republicans encourage this sort of peasant mentality every time they reinforce the 'don't tax the job creators' propaganda, in a period following the rich being robber barons grabbing massive wealth already.

If you want jobs, you will get a lot more good jobs with progressive policies, not concentrating the wealth further in the hands of fewer people.

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Zorkorist

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LOL, took me a bit to recognize Stockholm Syndrome, and what you are implying it means.

The closest analogy In todays environment (or in a political environment) to Stockholm Syndrome is Welfare Recepients. They believe they are held hostage, by the welfare payments they receive.

Which is utter, and absolute baloney.

Workers in this State, are pleasantly surprised, that their efforts are rewarded.

Thankfully, there are still OPPORTUNITES to reward workers, although that is being eroded by Government daily.

-John
 
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WHAMPOM

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I hate to say it. But its true. Your teabagger is a thug, a racist, a moron, a coward, a fraud, but they are the people. For years we've all been wondering where has the outrage been. Why aren't fucking heads rolling down Walstreet?

The teabagger is the only one who seems to give a god damn. Sure they are a bunch of johnny come lately whose only reason for their sudden angst is the chance to spit on some black politicians. But at the end of the day, a black politician is a politician!

This government is broken. Austerity is coming one way or another. Why not walk into it with courage, accept what very well could be instant depression and start on the road to real recovery. Since Saint Reagan we've had 30 years of growth. Except that growth was a facade built on debt. Your house, your job, your life is all a product of that debt. The economy is an illusion, most of us have no idea what a real economy is since we've never seen one ourselves.

Republicans and Democrats do not have this country in their interest. They are not of the people. The teabagger is the only subset of the people that has put down its t.v. remote to voice itself. Thats how bad it is in this country! The teabagger is the only one who gives a fuck lol.

This status quo that has been our lives must come to an end right? Somebody tell me that we can make up wars and lose them for 12 years straight, burrow trillions of dollars and print hundreds of trillions of dollars more in cash to give to Toyota, France, Libya, and many more dubious outlays with no cost?

When this debt ceiling is raised and the status quo is protected once again. Lets all remember when we wallow in a devastating depression a short time from now that these morons called the teabaggers were right.

Sorry but today's Brownshirts are the same stooges as they were in 1920's Germany. True belivers to be martyred, paving the way for their overlords power grab.