The Teabagger is on the right side of history.

[IGBT]

and we have your obama's planned recession II coming in 2012/13 when his health care scam slithers out of the honey pot. Employers will lay off to pay for their end of the obama care scam. Reducing payroll reduces costs to the employer. This is what you guys voted for. It must be what you want.

 

[Craig234]

What is that 30% of the deficit? Destroying our AAA rating is worth not taxing the wealthy to Reagan levels? Good luck next election cycle. The republicans are gonna get fucked. The middle of the country blames the republicans for not making concessions.

That's how it should work. A lot of political analysts say it doesn't - that Obama will get the blame by then for things going badly, which is primarily driving the Republicans' policy.

But would they want power so badly they'd do that? Have you ever learned about these people?

They were happy to steal the election in 2000 for power. They were happy to abuse the impeachment process by impeaching Clinton after years funding a 'special investigator' to dig.

This year, they're pursuing the largest voter suppression legislative agenda in several decades, and attacking unions to reduce the leading funder for Democrats, to win elections.

 

[trenchfoot]

You may have noticed, in recent years we've gone from that record disaster to tripling down on it. Not even pausing the double down.

True that. But I wonder how it is that things would have gotten fixed by continuing the very same repub policy of "tax less and give whatever's left to the rich" that got us into this mess to begin with?

 

[Arkaign]

We've proven ourselves incapable as a nation of building a political system helmed by responsible and intelligent persons. We've accepted the anasthesia of a dumbed-down partisan media to give us exactly the things we want to hear. We've accepted an education system that cares nothing about thought, only recitation and repetition of things that might make marginally more useful corporate drones. We've watched with glorious indifference as we've squandered every last chance at reforming the system that is killing us.

It's over. It's far too late to turn back now, things are much worse than any statistic or chart can tell you. The pages of history are filled with the charred corpses that overflow mass graves when powerful nations stumble under immense economic upheaval.

WW1 was kindergarten.

WW2 was a middle school brawl between weaklings.

This new conflict will see 7+ billion dead, entire continents reduced to wastelands for millennia. Weaponized viruses, global thermonuclear warfare, chemical warfare, there is no place far enough to hide.










In all seriousness though, we're fucked

 

[Siddhartha]

So will these assholes crash the economy over abortion, creationism, guns, prayer in schools, and the rest of their political \ social agenda?

 

[Thump553]

It's exactly the right time, and the right issue.

Obama is on TV, almost crying to Spend more, Tax more.

Meanwhile most of America is looking for less spending, less taxation, less regulation.

-John

What makes you possibly think the start of a weak recovery is "exactly the right time" to be CUTTING spending? Do you know something contrary to nearly every economist in the world? And if it is the right time to start cutting spending, why wasn't last December the right time to let the Bush tax cuts expire so we had more revenue to apply to the deficit?

Now is the right time to set a plan (and keep to it) to gradually reduce spending and increase taxes as the recovery takes hold-to prevent inflation down the road and to help cure the deficit. Cutting spending now is just plain stupid.


Teabaggers amaze me with their myopic views.

 

[Jaskalas]

True that. But I wonder how it is that things would have gotten fixed by continuing the very same repub policy of "tax less and give whatever's left to the rich" that got us into this mess to begin with?

To address that specific issue, I am not against the notion of Clinton level taxes. Puts me at odds with those I am close with, but we have a crisis and it seems reasonable for that to be a PART of the solution.

 

[werepossum]

To address that specific issue, I am not against the notion of Clinton level taxes. Puts me at odds with those I am close with, but we have a crisis and it seems reasonable for that to be a PART of the solution.

I agree - once Congress and the White House prove that they can actually spend less money. All history points toward spending more money while claiming cuts because we "needed" to spend even more more money than the more money we are spending.

Generator is exactly right, except that he's calling them tea baggers. They are tea partiers. Tea baggers meet at Barney Franks' condo for, um, "stimulating conversation."

 

[Generator]

Before the Kochs, Dick Armey, and other slimeballs infiltrated the so called Tea Party the movement had some modicum of dignity. I like to think think it still there in some manner, there is a nobleness.

The very idea that these inside the belt way politicians, media, and other sycophants won't be able to afford their prostitutes and cocaine next week is exhilarating. I just heard Gloria Stefan just say she just lost all her investments in the market yesterday. What a absurd lie. Who cares what the god damn Dow Jones does. It goes up and it goes down. This is why there must be a default because the people don't have anything to lose in the market. Our pensions, 401ks, and bonds have already been stolen in 2008. The only people in these RIGGED markets on these sycophants who are all basically working on the inside making trades.

It may be a depression, buts its going to be one with Facebook, the NFL, and Iphones. The breadlines will be food stamps. The peoples wealth hasn't risen for 30 years, now is the time to strike at the elites who have all the wealth and have corrupted every facet of our government.

Once a default happens then there will be a real opportunity for some reforms. Instead of every fraud on the government tit, we can have a real movement for universal health care. Kill employer based healthcare once and for all. This is basically what this is all about. The endgame is healthcare. This whole ruse is what is required for it to happen in this broken country.

 

[ChunkiMunki]

once a default happens, who will lend us money? Instead of paying less than 1% interest, now you have to pay 5% or more....you have now killed all our social programs and gave even more money to the chinese to finance our debt. Sounds like a great deal?

 

[wuliheron]

I hate to say it. But its true. Your teabagger is a thug, a racist, a moron, a coward, a fraud, but they are the people. For years we've all been wondering where has the outrage been. Why aren't fucking heads rolling down Walstreet?

The tea baggers are a bunch of loud mouthed losers who don't know when to give up. Bar room brawlers who couldn't think their way out of a paper bag and are only good for a little dirty back alley fighting and cussing. They came out of nowhere fast and they'll disappear just as fast once they've spent their wadd on the latest budget crisis.

 

[maluckey]

So will these assholes crash the economy over abortion, creationism, guns, prayer in schools, and the rest of their political \ social agenda?

Are you friggin serious?!!

God I hope not, considering you just shit on your own signature.

Credit = a necessary evil, needed for hard times. Not a way to run a household OR a country. My Indian neighbors should be allowed to wear caste marks, my muslim co-workers should be allowed to take several breaks during the day for prayer, and that annoying Atheist can keep his smug little poster "If there's no god, then who pops up the next kleenex?" on his office wall.

If I'm offended then I should ask myself why, when they don't seem to be offended that I'm a practicing Christian with conservative values, which I'm certain irk them at times. We all should lighten up and be more reasonable with MY money.

We ALL need to realize that the economy was crashed by assholes who thought that money grew on trees, and that the gravy train was never-ending. I didn't buy into that, and for YEARs was "poor" in comparison to my "wealthy" friends and work asociates. Not any more! I'm the "rich" one...I'm debt free for over five years now. No payments to anyone...can I get an AMEN!

 

[JSt0rm]

once a default happens, who will lend us money? Instead of paying less than 1% interest, now you have to pay 5% or more....you have now killed all our social programs and gave even more money to the chinese to finance our debt. Sounds like a great deal?

Sounds like love to a guy who spent his whole life stockpiling food and weapons and lives in some rural area.

 

[trenchfoot]

To address that specific issue, I am not against the notion of Clinton level taxes. Puts me at odds with those I am close with, but we have a crisis and it seems reasonable for that to be a PART of the solution.

Yeh, got'ta agree with that. I guess the devil is in the details in this regard.

 

[Siddhartha]

Are you friggin serious?!!

God I hope not, considering you just shit on your own signature.

Credit = a necessary evil, needed for hard times. Not a way to run a household OR a country. My Indian neighbors should be allowed to wear caste marks, my muslim co-workers should be allowed to take several breaks during the day for prayer, and that annoying Atheist can keep his smug little poster "If there's no god, then who pops up the next kleenex?" on his office wall.

If I'm offended then I should ask myself why, when they don't seem to be offended that I'm a practicing Christian with conservative values, which I'm certain irk them at times. We all should lighten up and be more reasonable with MY money.

We ALL need to realize that the economy was crashed by assholes who thought that money grew on trees, and that the gravy train was never-ending. I didn't buy into that, and for YEARs was "poor" in comparison to my "wealthy" friends and work asociates. Not any more! I'm the "rich" one...I'm debt free for over five years now. No payments to anyone...can I get an AMEN!

Your microeconomics model does not work on a macroeconomic level.

The Republicans created the deficits with the Bush Tax Cuts and wars. They, led by the Tea Partiers, have created this crisis by not voting for raising the debt limit. They act like they want to crash the economy to further their political agendas. If they are crazy enough to do that it is reasonable to wonder if will they do the same to achieve their social agendas.

I am not sure where you are going talking about religion though.

 

[ayabe]

The single biggest policy decision impacting our current deficit problems were the Bush tax cuts, the sooner everyone acknowledges this, the sooner we'll start righting the ship.

 

[Lemon law]

I wish I were an Oscar Mier wiener, that is what I truly want to be. But since Oscar Mier won't lend me their weiner mobile, I will have settle for being a tea partier. I just have to find some period costumes, recite the proper slogans, and I can make everyone far worse for everyone by bringing the US government into default.

Is all Oscar Mier's fault, I might be more rational if I can just drive the weiner mobile where I can be a hero to everyone but vegetarians.

Oh well, I will just have to leave you now and barbeque a steak. Until I get to drive the Wiener Mobile, I am boycotting Oscar Mier and its my way , Oscar, or the highway.

 

[werepossum]

Are you friggin serious?!!

God I hope not, considering you just shit on your own signature.

Credit = a necessary evil, needed for hard times. Not a way to run a household OR a country. My Indian neighbors should be allowed to wear caste marks, my muslim co-workers should be allowed to take several breaks during the day for prayer, and that annoying Atheist can keep his smug little poster "If there's no god, then who pops up the next kleenex?" on his office wall.

If I'm offended then I should ask myself why, when they don't seem to be offended that I'm a practicing Christian with conservative values, which I'm certain irk them at times. We all should lighten up and be more reasonable with MY money.

We ALL need to realize that the economy was crashed by assholes who thought that money grew on trees, and that the gravy train was never-ending. I didn't buy into that, and for YEARs was "poor" in comparison to my "wealthy" friends and work asociates. Not any more! I'm the "rich" one...I'm debt free for over five years now. No payments to anyone...can I get an AMEN!

AMEN, brother! The new status symbol is the paid-off home mortgage.

 

[sportage]

Funny thing... if republicans were back in full control, this budget thing would become moot overnight, as was the case when GW was in charge. Let’s face it, the whole budget discussion is just hot air. Republicans had no problem spending all of the CLinton surplus. It's just that suddenly when the bill arrives in the mail, republicans freak out. Or pretend to.....

 

[maluckey]

Your microeconomics model does not work on a macroeconomic level.

The Republicans created the deficits with the Bush Tax Cuts and wars. They, led by the Tea Partiers, have created this crisis by not voting for raising the debt limit. They act like they want to crash the economy to further their political agendas. If they are crazy enough to do that it is reasonable to wonder if will they do the same to achieve their social agendas.

I am not sure where you are going talking about religion though.

Religion is prominent with our founding documents, the Supreme Court and virtually all of the countries founders (though many were deists). It's also in your signature.

So...you didn't read your own signature...or the document that it refers to......nor do you understand that the Republicans were in charge of the HOUSE AND SENATE the last time we had a Budget Surplus. You really should read the US Constitution as well. Congress controls the Purse-strings NOT the president. Both the Bush tax cuts were in a Democratic controlled Congress.

Finally....Tea Party does not Represent Republicans any more that the Religious Fundies or Oil Execs. That's like saying that Hollywood, Art-Fags, Unions and Jews controls the Democrats. Both are fables and easy fodder for the masses. It's a tool used to dehumanize the other party and allow control over the ignorant masses. Don't buy into it or their talking points. It turns you into Glenn Beck, and there's no known cure for that.

 

[LegendKiller]

I hate to say it. But its true. Your teabagger is a thug, a racist, a moron, a coward, a fraud, but they are the people. For years we've all been wondering where has the outrage been. Why aren't fucking heads rolling down Walstreet?

The teabagger is the only one who seems to give a god damn. Sure they are a bunch of johnny come lately whose only reason for their sudden angst is the chance to spit on some black politicians. But at the end of the day, a black politician is a politician!

This government is broken. Austerity is coming one way or another. Why not walk into it with courage, accept what very well could be instant depression and start on the road to real recovery. Since Saint Reagan we've had 30 years of growth. Except that growth was a facade built on debt. Your house, your job, your life is all a product of that debt. The economy is an illusion, most of us have no idea what a real economy is since we've never seen one ourselves.

Republicans and Democrats do not have this country in their interest. They are not of the people. The teabagger is the only subset of the people that has put down its t.v. remote to voice itself. Thats how bad it is in this country! The teabagger is the only one who gives a fuck lol.

This status quo that has been our lives must come to an end right? Somebody tell me that we can make up wars and lose them for 12 years straight, burrow trillions of dollars and print hundreds of trillions of dollars more in cash to give to Toyota, France, Libya, and many more dubious outlays with no cost?

When this debt ceiling is raised and the status quo is protected once again. Lets all remember when we wallow in a devastating depression a short time from now that these morons called the teabaggers were right.

What, exactly, were they "right" about? What do they want to cut? Are they willing to take their cuts to defense, Medicare, SS, and their own pet projects? From what I have seen, no. Are they willing to raise taxes? No.

So really, what are they "right" about? In fact, they aren't right about one fucking thing. All they do is spew the same talking points the Koch brothers have force fed down their throats.

All the while, they stayed silent for 30 years. Where were they during Medicare Plan D? Where were they during the wars? There the fuck were they? They were sucking off the tit and continue to do so. Have they even offered to give up Plan D? Nope.

Look at Spidey, a quintessential teabagger. He brags about his wife's salary on here, she's an overpaid government worker.

They just want the government "smaller" with no plan. They bitch about poor people, but don't even look in the mirror.

Pathetic.

 

[Craig234]

So...you didn't read your own signature...or the document that it refers to......nor do you understand that the Republicans were in charge of the HOUSE AND SENATE the last time we had a Budget Surplus. You really should read the US Constitution as well. Congress controls the Purse-strings NOT the president. Both the Bush tax cuts were in a Democratic controlled Congress.

Finally....Tea Party does not Represent Republicans any more that the Religious Fundies or Oil Execs. That's like saying that Hollywood, Art-Fags, Unions and Jews controls the Democrats. Both are fables and easy fodder for the masses. It's a tool used to dehumanize the other party and allow control over the ignorant masses. Don't buy into it or their talking points. It turns you into Glenn Beck, and there's no known cure for that.

First, 'art-fags' is an offensive term, find another. The Tea Party is not that small an influence in the Republican Party, unfortunately. Estimates are 80 Republicans are aligned with them saying they simply oppose raising the debt ceiling, not looking for a 'deal' like their highly but less irresponsible colleagues who are blackmailing the nation.

Mainstream Republicans are hostage takers - 'give us these demands we can't get otherwise or we'll kill the economy', and the tea part are just serial killers 'we'll kill it.'

I don't think it's 'Glenn Beck' at all to point out their behavior or the role the 'tea party' is playing as Boehner is finding as everyone predicted he has a very hard time with them.

 

[maluckey]

I don't think it's 'Glenn Beck' at all to point out their behavior or the role the 'tea party' is playing as Boehner is finding as everyone predicted he has a very hard time with them.

I totally agree! Pointing out shortcomings is a good thing. These guys irk me as much as anyone else. I see no long-term goals or plans that are workable, and I truly find it hard to get behind anyone without a plan.

Come meet the new boss, same as the old boss! We won't get fooled again!


....yeah right!

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Yeah, right! Teabaggers are on the same side of history as Hitler

 

[trenchfoot]

What, exactly, were they "right" about? What do they want to cut? Are they willing to take their cuts to defense, Medicare, SS, and their own pet projects? From what I have seen, no. Are they willing to raise taxes? No.

So really, what are they "right" about? In fact, they aren't right about one fucking thing. All they do is spew the same talking points the Koch brothers have force fed down their throats.

All the while, they stayed silent for 30 years. Where were they during Medicare Plan D? Where were they during the wars? There the fuck were they? They were sucking off the tit and continue to do so. Have they even offered to give up Plan D? Nope.

Look at Spidey, a quintessential teabagger. He brags about his wife's salary on here, she's an overpaid government worker.

They just want the government "smaller" with no plan. They bitch about poor people, but don't even look in the mirror.

Pathetic.

The ultimate paradox: A middle class Tea Partier receiving some form of gov't pension and medicare/medicaid benefits who is also a victim of some natural disaster and getting gov't assistance for it and is also suing a company for selling lead-tainted paint that he used to paint his house and got poisoned from, that wouldn't have been a problem if the federal agency in charge of regulating said company were properly funded to do it's job and who also got burglarized and had his house put on fire by the burglar but didn't get the response he needed from the overworked and undermanned cops and firemen due to his intransigent and successful activism to get rid of the unions that protected the cops and firemens rights to proper pay and working conditions.