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The Syrian Golan Heights provide Israel with one-third of its fresh water....

DarkThinker

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I stumbled across this article, and it just got me curious about this: If Israel gets 1/3 of it's fresh water supply from the Golan Heights and if each year Israeli settlers keep increasing and building more homes and `kibbutz` what does that mean really?

Why is it OK to do so for them? Why is taking over other's land and trying to stay in it permanently so easy for Jewish settlers to do and on top of it, nothing that draws in criticism from on the international arena?

My guess is, should Syria and Israel enter a peace for land agreement, Israel will only give back the land in return for some serious land and water compromises from Syria's side. The nutcase in Damascus, has been defeated on the Lebanese frontier by the determination of the Lebanese to kick his forces out for good, he is now going to announce Syria's plan to actually build an embassy in Lebanon, establish proper diplomatic ties in between both countries and do an updated border marking (which will confirm that the Israeli occupied Shebaa Farms are in fact Lebanese), it seems to me, had the fact of is Bashar Al-Assad willing to change his ways, keep his nose inside his country and get back the Golan Heights through a peace treaty would have been the only requirement for the peace treaty to happen, it seems to me this would have been done so long ago.

But it seems to me, the Israeli tactic as usual has been to encourage and give citizens incentives to go live in settlements in the occupied Golan Heights, so that when the time comes, Israel could use them as a bargaining chip in order to make a case by saying "We have xxxxxxx settlers living in the area, we can't just move them all, or we would need this and that to try to move them OR well, they would still need irrigation from Syrian land OR...." something along those lines....

TBH it looks like the Golan Heights will never be returned....
 
The land belongs to Syria.

One day Syria is going to launch a thousand rockets into Israel and Israel will start bombing Syria.

However, not with Assad. Wait till he dies. For now Israel can bitch slap pussy Syria around.
Israel goes around flying F-16s over Assad's house and he just shits his pants.

This guy is the biggest coward in the Arab world. Israel might as well announce Golan Heights is theirs forever. Assad will just cry
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Aimster
The land belongs to Syria.
Sorry, that's not how wars work. You attack me and lose, I win some of your land. Too bad.


You would be oK if Egypt had won the war and pushed the Jews to the sea? Because Egypt was very close to winning the war. They had thousands of tanks/APC/land equipment left and hundreds of thousands of men. They had no air support since their air force was destroyed. Now imagine if their air force had not been destroyed. Israel would have been in for a big mess.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Aimster
The land belongs to Syria.
Sorry, that's not how wars work. You attack me and lose, I win some of your land. Too bad.


You would be oK if Egypt had won the war and pushed the Jews to the sea? Because Egypt was very close to winning the war. They had thousands of tanks/APC/land equipment left and hundreds of thousands of men. They had no air support since their air force was destroyed. Now imagine if their air force had not been destroyed. Israel would have been in for a big mess.

Yeah just imagine that, if everything worked perfectly lol

Egypt was lucky Israel didnt let the Egyptian 3rd army bake to death out in the desert.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Aimster
The land belongs to Syria.
Sorry, that's not how wars work. You attack me and lose, I win some of your land. Too bad.

From my limited knowledge of the area. I think technically Israel attacked first.

Anyway Israel won the land in a war, and i think they said they annexed it. which means they can do what they are free to live on the land right? until the next war where they lose the land.

All this talk about rights and laws and legal stuff in this region confuses me because of the involvement of the UN and the British in the creation of Israel.
 
Originally posted by: brandonb
Originally posted by: Genx87
Syria lost the land in war.

And Jews lost Israel in war to the Arab's 1000 years ago, but somehow they aquired it back.

/mystery.

Ermm, a correction there....Jews lost their land in Palestine to the Romans thousands of years ago.....Arabs got sick of the Romans, went ahead and defeated the Roman empire at the time of the Great Caliphate Omar Bin Alkhatab, after that, the Arabs where the ones who let the Jews back into Jerusalem and surrounding areas after they had been expelled by the Romans for their (righteous) rebellions and gave them more rights than they ever had under anyone else and protected them from invasions.
 
So what is all this talk about annexing land forever....I have been hearing forever form the pro-Israelites everywhere that 1967 land is held on the condition of peace and recognition....what makes this different from Jordan and Egypt's case?
 
Originally posted by: DarkThinker
I stumbled across this article, and it just got me curious about this: If Israel gets 1/3 of it's fresh water supply from the Golan Heights and if each year Israeli settlers keep increasing and building more homes and `kibbutz` what does that mean really?

Why is it OK to do so for them? Why is taking over other's land and trying to stay in it permanently so easy for Jewish settlers to do and on top of it, nothing that draws in criticism from on the international arena?

My guess is, should Syria and Israel enter a peace for land agreement, Israel will only give back the land in return for some serious land and water compromises from Syria's side. The nutcase in Damascus, has been defeated on the Lebanese frontier by the determination of the Lebanese to kick his forces out for good, he is now going to announce Syria's plan to actually build an embassy in Lebanon, establish proper diplomatic ties in between both countries and do an updated border marking (which will confirm that the Israeli occupied Shebaa Farms are in fact Lebanese), it seems to me, had the fact of is Bashar Al-Assad willing to change his ways, keep his nose inside his country and get back the Golan Heights through a peace treaty would have been the only requirement for the peace treaty to happen, it seems to me this would have been done so long ago.

But it seems to me, the Israeli tactic as usual has been to encourage and give citizens incentives to go live in settlements in the occupied Golan Heights, so that when the time comes, Israel could use them as a bargaining chip in order to make a case by saying "We have xxxxxxx settlers living in the area, we can't just move them all, or we would need this and that to try to move them OR well, they would still need irrigation from Syrian land OR...." something along those lines....

TBH it looks like the Golan Heights will never be returned....

Well, since Syria attacked Israel from the heights sure makes sense to keep them instead of giving them back only to have more rockets launched from them...

The Golan heights will not be returned. Ever. Everyone but North America seems to understand this. The Golan heights were going to be returned for nothing but a peace agreement from Syria....which Syria threw back in Israels face. These people do not want peace.
 
I don't know of any Syrian Golan Heights. Where are these located in relation to the Israel Golan Heights?
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
These people do not want peace?
Egypt & Jordan seem to want peace to me

Who are these people?

Of course they do, they accepted peace with Israel in return for there land back. Syria rejected terms to have Golan heights back which were only "peace".

Thank you captain obvious
 
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Aimster
These people do not want peace?
Egypt & Jordan seem to want peace to me

Who are these people?

Of course they do, they accepted peace with Israel in return for there land back. Syria rejected terms to have Golan heights back which were only "peace".

Thank you captain obvious

Show me where Syria rejected the turnover of the Golan Heights

I must have misunderstood what you are trying to say.
 
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