The supposed DVD killer...

Spuffin

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My thoughts are that if you can get it on your TV screen, you can get it onto another video tape :)
 

randomlinh

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"A 75GB hard disk would only hold around 30 minutes of the video, according to company officials, making the trading of HD content over the Internet impossible"

And no one would come up w/ some kind of compression scheme... ala DiVX.....
 

Czar

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It wont be used for sure, DVD has already taken over and the market isnt ready for a new standard. After 5 years at least then maybe.
 

Windogg

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If it doesn't work with a computer, it's "old" technology. Digital convergance will demand a medium that can be used with conventional set top units as well as a PC. DVD is pretty well entrenched in the market and has fallen to a pricepoint where buying a D-VHS is not cost effective.

Windogg
 

Demon-Xanth

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So let me get this straight: to protect from piricy you make the media huge. Maybe the RIAA should've tried this, if they made CDs 650MB or so maybe people wouldn't download music off the internet -sic :D
 

yakko

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It won't win simply because dvds offer more features and advantages like no rewinding and machines don't eat them.
 

atom

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Who the hell wants to go back to clunky tapes? Even if it has better quality than DVD, I'd still rather have DVD for size and convenience. This'll go the way of DAT, a niche market at best.
 

Raspewtin

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"Even if it has better quality than DVD, I'd still rather have DVD for size and convenience."


Me too. I'd also rather not deal with magnetic media again, as so many tapes have been erased by magnets in speakers, etc for me. I know the scratches on DVDs are an issue, but I prefer dealing with that any day over tapes.
 

Namuna

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Let's look at some facts:
DVD-ram can now be had for well under $500
DVD media for under $20
TV Capture Cards are CHEAP
Hard Drives are getting HUGE and CHEAP
Machines are getting faster, better

And it's only going to get faster, cheaper, better and higher capacity. By the time HDTV becomes mainstream, so will HUGE capacity storage for the common person and higher quality cable/TV will also be mainstream. D-VHS and all the other would-be piracy killers will be and are jokes.

 

kami

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It won't make it...look.. 2 grand for the player when it debuts and for a TV that supports that resolution it will be 10 grand. Too many people are buying DVDs now for something like this to take off. Why don't they just make discs that hold more instead? Idiots.

Oh, and another thing... Digital VHS... oxymoron? Yes, it's digital data but it's still transported by an analog source...tape. Tape degrades over time every time you play it...discs don't.
 

kami

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The only good use for this would be if you wanted to archive a bunch of stuff on tape, like seasons upon seasons of TV shows or something. Because if you recorded onto it in Standard VHS (240 lines of resolution....yuck) you could probably fit about 40 hours on each tape.
 

beat mania

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I wouldn't dismiss it on cost. DVD players weren't exactly cheap at first either.
Enthusiasts would buy it. My SVHS player's retail cost is $700, and I bought it. I have no doubt that the price would drop below 1k. Tape isn't too expensive either, compared to highend SVHS tapes.
 

snow patrol

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I have the feeling that DVD is here to stay...for a fair while at least.

I think it's established enough of a foothold, and is growing at a very rapid rate.
 

konichiwa

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1) DVD is an established format, it hasn't run its course

2) No matter what anyone does, there will ALWAYS be someone out there who will crack the encryption or find a method to pirate. We cracked Germany's Enigma, didn't we? Well, we can crack this. ;)
 

AngelOfDeath

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It's still a tape with all its flaws. Don't think it will be such a big hype in the end. DVD is the way. Just MHO.

AoD ;)
 

Mday

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tape itself is not analog.

sure you can store "more" (duh, it's retarded) on that DVHS, it's still tape. which is linear, so it's pretty much stupid to even us it. i am sick and tired of rewinding and fast forwarding with tapes.

DVD is here. it'll be replaced, but not by tape.
 

Capn

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yeah the tape itself isn't analog, meaning the data on the tape is a digital format. Digital data is discrete in time and amplitude, analog is not (being continuous).
 

SexEPid

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I got that e-mail too from Wired News
Talk about biast.
What are the huge problems DVD's are having according to them?
Ugh!

Pid
 

Killbat

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"The HDCP system can't be broken, however, because only high definition sets will have the HDCP decoder, according to Dan McCarron, national product specialist in JVC's color TV division."

I'm telling you all right now, I had to stand up and walk around the room to recover from the laughter. :D:D:D:D:D:D