Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Oh Jesus Christ! Get over it already!
I never had a single problem with my G200.
That's HIS reason for ditching Matrox...
... what's YOURS?
That's HIS reason for ditching Matrox...
... what's YOURS?
Originally posted by: grant2
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Oh Jesus Christ! Get over it already!
I never had a single problem with my G200.
That's HIS reason for ditching Matrox...
... what's YOURS?
The performance of the Parhelia wasn't worth the money to me.
amish
Originally posted by: MrGrim
Yes but ... Surround Gaming man!!!!
In the heat of a deathmatch, I can barely notice the game backgrounds / backdrops on my monitor... That leaves me confused on how people can game with triplehead
phallus target:
consumer wants good speed for a good price (phallus low speed high price)
pro wants good 2d good open gl (phallus hardware banding and poor open gl)
anybody cann tell me where is the market for the phallus?
consumer wants good speed for a good price (phallus low speed high price)
pro wants good 2d good open gl (phallus hardware banding and poor open gl)
anybody cann tell me where is the market for the phallus?
It's "Parhelia", not "Phallus". Not all "pro's" need OpenGL. There are plenty of things to do on a computer that could use multihead, yet don't need OpenGL. And besides, Parhelias OpenGL-drivers are good. In fact, recent driver-release significantly boosted Parhelias performance in hi-end OpenGL apps. And the banding you are talking about is only apparent in few apps.
Sounds like someone doesn't know what he's talking about. I think you should stop before you make a bigger fool of yourself (dunno if that's possible anymore...)
Well for 99.9% of all users dualhead is good enough so that triplehead (with the 3rd head has a crap ramdac) ist just useless
matrox is known to have crap drivers out of the box and maybe after one year you will get solid drivers but the competition aka Nvidia gives you awesome drivers right out of the box
The banding is on a hardwarelevel (chip bug) and virtually destroys the matrox name for 2d
"<FONT face=Verdana>Well, I never ever got any seizures, but I do get a headache and my eyes are hurting when I watch my Parhelia doing the "banding ride" ..."
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Hardware, out of curiosity, have you ever noticed that your HTML tags don't work under FuseTalk?
I mean, you use them alot, and they never work, you might wanna considder using FT tags instead, that would make your posts look less...strange, if only by a bit as long as the content remains the same.
I mean, you use them alot, and they never work, you might wanna considder using FT tags instead, that would make your posts look less...strange, if only by a bit as long as the content remains the same.
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You yourself just said that dualhead is not good enough for all consumers. There are plenty of people using triplehead. Just becayse YOU are not one of those people, doesn't mean that the feature is useless.
Were Parhelias drivers "crap"? To my knowledge, they were not. And when was the last time MAtrox released new products? Parhelia is their first brand-new product after a long time, things can change as time passes you know.
Parhelias drivers are already good and it has been only few months. And to my knowledge, thei were pretty good out of the box as well.
There are plenty of problems with NVIDIA's drivers. But for some reason people just don't pay any attention to them. But as a whole, NVIDIA's drivers propably are among the best there is.
And like I said, the banding is only visible in FEW apps! How can it destroy Matroxes name for 2D, when in vast majority of apps the image-quality is sharp and crisp?
On the other hand, the GF4's hardware-problem (inability to use the second TMU when doing aniso (or was it trilinear in general?) affects EVERY SINGLE 3D-app! Does that "destroy NVIDIA's name for 3D"? If it doesn't by your standards, then you have double-standards.
So all the quad cards Matrox matrox makes are just useless and no one buys them?
Matrox having crappy drivers, thats strange my old Matrox Millenium had one of the best drivers I'v ever used right out of the box and same goes for my G400. Now I have a Radeon 9700 and its by far hell of alot worse than Matrox has ever done (though it doesnt take much since this is ATI). But I have to agree with you, now nVidia has the best drivers.
and oh yeah, html doesnt work on the forum if you hadnt noticed
yes the nvidia driver still ownz but ATi is catching up.
At home I have a TI4600 with very awesome crispy 2D (I am not allowed to play games because of my girlfriend)
and with my dual NEC 18" LCD (NON DVI) I need highest quality for my 2D
the g400 for example has a fake 2nd (phallus fake 3rd ramdac) head with sub level ramdac thats cheating in my eyes
(same is true for gf2mx radeon 7000 8500 9000 g400 g550? g450)
until now only the radeon 7500 and the gf4 ti ownz real dual head well anyway my next screens will be DVI so anyway nobody cares anymore about crisp 2D because its the sam eif you use Sis Nvidia or Matrox
I am just using the editor here (which is still buggy)
this banding is everytime as I was reading when you use windowed 3d but you need a bright bg?
the ansi "bug" I dontz know about that but thats only a speed thing and no real bug
try to work on a banding desktop and you know what is a real bug!!!
Hardware, out of curiosity, have you ever noticed that your HTML tags don't work under FuseTalk?
I mean, you use them alot, and they never work, you might wanna considder using FT tags instead, that would make your posts look less...strange, if only by a bit as long as the content remains the same.
I dont use HTML Tags (I am not stupid) its just cut & paste and the froum software is buggy!
I mean, you use them alot, and they never work, you might wanna considder using FT tags instead, that would make your posts look less...strange, if only by a bit as long as the content remains the same.
I dont use HTML Tags (I am not stupid) its just cut & paste and the froum software is buggy!
Whats this GF4 problem???
First time I hear of such prob??? Pls update me as I am about to buy GF4!
Thanks!
-DaFinn
First time I hear of such prob??? Pls update me as I am about to buy GF4!
Thanks!
-DaFinn
Please, learn to quote. You mix HTML in your post, you are unable to quote properly... Honestly, I'm not impressed!
That 0.1% is a number you pulled from your ass. It has no basis in reality.
Parhelias drivers are good. And Parhelia has been out for few months now. And they were pretty good from the start. So how exactly did you come to the conclusion that the drivers must suck, if they were good from the start and since last few months they have got even better?
What I have been reading, it's only apparent in some apps, not all.
Oh, it's not a "real" bug eh
? Sure it isn't... What then is a "real" bug and what isn't? Thanks to that bug, GF4 is in practise incapable of using AF, since it kills the framerate.
Overwheliming majority of Parhelia-owners I have talked with were stunned by the top-notch 2D quality Parhelia has, including TypedefEnum of nvnews.net. Only few have complained about the banding, overwhelming majority is more than happy with the 2D-quality of Parhelia.
That 0.1% is a number you pulled from your ass. It has no basis in reality.
Parhelias drivers are good. And Parhelia has been out for few months now. And they were pretty good from the start. So how exactly did you come to the conclusion that the drivers must suck, if they were good from the start and since last few months they have got even better?
What I have been reading, it's only apparent in some apps, not all.
Oh, it's not a "real" bug eh
Overwheliming majority of Parhelia-owners I have talked with were stunned by the top-notch 2D quality Parhelia has, including TypedefEnum of nvnews.net. Only few have complained about the banding, overwhelming majority is more than happy with the 2D-quality of Parhelia.
Someone correct me if Im wrong, but isn't the issue with the GF4's second TMU and ansio a tradeoff nVidia did when designing the GF4, rather than a bug?
Of course one can question if this was a wise tradeoff, but that's a completely different issue.
Of course one can question if this was a wise tradeoff, but that's a completely different issue.
I can see how posting such things as facts can be frightening for you, but you really should try it some day.
HOW DARE YOU BASH nVIDIA with dirty FACTS!
It's not a bug if nVidia makes it - it's a FEATURE!
Who cares if the image isn't pretty - SPEED is the only thing that matters! (other than the total elimination of all competition! Our Hero destroyed 3dfx single-handedly! Now he's taking on Matrox and a phallic card that doesn't exist because he can't say "Parahelia". I think Freud would say he has "issues" with that one.)
It's not a bug if nVidia makes it - it's a FEATURE!
Who cares if the image isn't pretty - SPEED is the only thing that matters! (other than the total elimination of all competition! Our Hero destroyed 3dfx single-handedly! Now he's taking on Matrox and a phallic card that doesn't exist because he can't say "Parahelia". I think Freud would say he has "issues" with that one.)
Hey Hardware, does it excite you to talk about "Phallus"? Are you all squirming and giggling in front of your 18inch LCDs going "hihihihi Parhelia-Phallus, hihihihihi, I know a dirty word, hihihihi!!!"???
You sound pretty immature to me.
You sound pretty immature to me.
dunno 3dfx and matrox they simply just dont hear to the customer so they will go ultimately the same way.
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