The South shall rise again! 40K People to Lose Their Medicaid Coverage in Louisiana

Thebobo

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Another what would jesus do? It seems kick 17K people out nursing homes is the christian thing to do, praise Jesus. And kicking old people out of nursing homes is more important than collecting taxes.


"Starting this Thursday, some 37,000 people with disabilities and elderly residents of Louisiana are slated to receive notice from the state that their Medicaid benefits will expire July 1 if the state budget is approved. Of those people, 17,000 live in nursing homes, and will be kicked out if they don’t find some other way to pay, Baton Rouge’s The Advocate reported Monday night.

On April 19, the Louisiana House passed a state budget with $648 million in cuts to balance the expiration of temporary state taxes, which the budget—as approved—did not renew. That includes a program to provide long-term nursing home and home care.

One House Republican, not realizing how deeply he was telling on his corrupt ideology, said, according to Nola.com: “This is what a responsible budget looks like, dealing with the actual figures, the actual money that is available to the state today.” Yep, this is what it looks like when you prize tax cuts and balanced budgets over human lives: People lose their health insurance, and old ladies get kicked out of nursing homes onto the street.
The impact of the cuts can’t be overstated. Hospitals will be forced to close, USA Today reported:"

https://splinternews.com/this-will-kill-people-40k-people-are-about-to-lose-the-1825855086
 

hal2kilo

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Another what would jesus do? It seems kick 17K people out nursing homes is the christian thing to do, praise Jesus. And kicking old people out of nursing homes is more important than collecting taxes.


"Starting this Thursday, some 37,000 people with disabilities and elderly residents of Louisiana are slated to receive notice from the state that their Medicaid benefits will expire July 1 if the state budget is approved. Of those people, 17,000 live in nursing homes, and will be kicked out if they don’t find some other way to pay, Baton Rouge’s The Advocate reported Monday night.

On April 19, the Louisiana House passed a state budget with $648 million in cuts to balance the expiration of temporary state taxes, which the budget—as approved—did not renew. That includes a program to provide long-term nursing home and home care.

One House Republican, not realizing how deeply he was telling on his corrupt ideology, said, according to Nola.com: “This is what a responsible budget looks like, dealing with the actual figures, the actual money that is available to the state today.” Yep, this is what it looks like when you prize tax cuts and balanced budgets over human lives: People lose their health insurance, and old ladies get kicked out of nursing homes onto the street.
The impact of the cuts can’t be overstated. Hospitals will be forced to close, USA Today reported:"

https://splinternews.com/this-will-kill-people-40k-people-are-about-to-lose-the-1825855086
Throw the loser malingerers out on the street. I can't wait to get old and feeble. This winning is almost more than I can stand. It probably doesn't matter because most of them are the other people (wink, wink, nod).
 
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pcgeek11

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I agree that is wrong in too many ways. They should have made the taxes permanent.
 

trenchfoot

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Yeap, Repubs sure know how to take care of their destitute elderly folks and those in need of a helping hand. I wonder where they go off to die?
 
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Thebobo

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Throw the loser malingerers out on the street. I can't wait to get old and feeble. This winning is almost more than I can stand. It probably doesn't matter because most of them are the other people (wink, wink, nod).

Yea I'm not sure I want to live in a home. I spent a month in dual purpose one where they had rehab on the bottom floors and nursing section on the top floors. Sometimes I would go up for the "events" they were having and holy shit it was depressing not to mention the asshole caretakers with shitty attitudes. So unless you have a lot of $$ might be best to go in a blaze of glory somehow considering the option imo.
 

glenn1

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Well I guess they’re all good as dead then because it’s not like progressives here are going to reach into their pockets in charity to help. “Collective action problem” must now be the largest cause of mortality in this country.
 

a777pilot

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LOL!

Nothing is ever as good or as bad as first reported.

When politicians cut spending they always cut aid to orphaned blind kids with cancer first.
 

Thebobo

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LOL!

Nothing is ever as good or as bad as first reported.

When politicians republicans cut spending they always cut aid to orphaned blind kids with cancer first.

There's still some hope that something might change by June. But notices are going out this week to all the medicaid recipients that they could lose their benefits. So there is bound to be some sort of intense push back. Could be you are or in one of those nursing homes someday.

http://www.wafb.com/story/38144992/...atients-at-risk-of-losing-healthcare-coverage
 
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ch33zw1z

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Well I guess they’re all good as dead then because it’s not like progressives here are going to reach into their pockets in charity to help. “Collective action problem” must now be the largest cause of mortality in this country.
You want more? Careful, your misplaced disdain and avarice is showing.

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/

And LA took the Medicaid expansion as well.

http://familiesusa.org/product/50-state-look-medicaid-expansion

Enjoy swallowing that bullshit.
 

Jhhnn

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Well I guess they’re all good as dead then because it’s not like progressives here are going to reach into their pockets in charity to help. “Collective action problem” must now be the largest cause of mortality in this country.

Nice guilt trip! With blame shifting!

Louisiana conservatives could do as you suggest w/o the rest of us, obviously. Hey, they could even use the state govt to do it & get oodles of federal funds to go with it...

Well, except Gubmint is Bad except for locking up black people. Then it's good. Gotta keep 'em in line.
 
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Jaskalas

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Well I guess they’re all good as dead then because it’s not like progressives here are going to reach into their pockets in charity to help.

I'd have a 25% tax for them to receive Basic Income. And another 15% tax for what is called Universal Healthcare.
I think that'd dig pretty deep into pockets everywhere. I'm assuming it is who you'd oppose such taxes.
 

UglyCasanova

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I live in Louisiana and The government is corrupt as hell. It’s not lack of taxes it’s complete mismanagement of the funds they have. People refuse to budge on giving anymore to the government because of the corruption that is LA politics. Oil is going up so maybe that takes care of it.
 
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UglyCasanova

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It’s worth noting the influence the nursing home industry has on our politics. We have the most people in them per capita in the nation because of a corrupt system that encourages nursing home care over cheaper at home alternatives. Guess who owns the nursing homes.
 
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Sunburn74

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It’s worth noting the influence the nursing home industry has on our politics. We have the most people in them per capita in the nation because of a corrupt system that encourages nursing home care over cheaper at home alternatives. Guess who owns the nursing homes.
First of all I have no dog in the fight about nursing homes (I'm not a part of the big nursing home lobby or anything) but I do disagree fairly vehemently with this assessment.

I think its extremely rare to find someone in a nursing home who doesn't absolutely have to be there. Like shooting star landing on your car rare. I say this from personal and professional experience. In fact, I wonder why more people aren't in nursing homes because its extremely common for people to show up needing medical care and when their home lives are reviewed, its unthinkable that they were left alone for years in such a state.

Basically the cost of nursing homes to the individual are so high that its almost unaffordable for many, neither is it well covered by most insurance plans (even with insurance the costs are extravagant and can be 1-3K per month). Families however start thinking about nursing homes when the elderly person is somewhat of a danger to themselves and needs 24 hour monitoring and care that a normal working family cannot provide. Also nursing homes suck for everyone. No one wants to be there and no one wants to put their parents there either.
 
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Atreus21

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It’s worth noting the influence the nursing home industry has on our politics. We have the most people in them per capita in the nation because of a corrupt system that encourages nursing home care over cheaper at home alternatives. Guess who owns the nursing homes.

Can you link to something? I'm curious. Wife used to work for a couple of them. Nasty work for a nurse.
 

UglyCasanova

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http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_ro...cle_1940f13c-0f17-11e7-851c-97fd5a7b60fd.html

Nationally, "there has been a shift away from institutional spending and institutional participation toward home- and community-based service spending and participation," said Steve Kaye, a professor at the University of California, San Francisco's Institute for Health and Aging. "Louisiana is very much an outlier."

The root of the problem is a long list of financial policies and laws in Louisiana that heavily favor nursing homes. These special protections, many of them unique to Louisiana, are a testament to the strength of the state’s nursing home lobby, long a leading source of campaign cash for the state’s politicians.

"There's a bias toward institutionalization — both in our policies and our funding," said Karen LeBlanc, who has written critical reports for the Louisiana Legislative Auditor's Office about the way the state funds long-term care.
 

Jhhnn

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http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_ro...cle_1940f13c-0f17-11e7-851c-97fd5a7b60fd.html

Nationally, "there has been a shift away from institutional spending and institutional participation toward home- and community-based service spending and participation," said Steve Kaye, a professor at the University of California, San Francisco's Institute for Health and Aging. "Louisiana is very much an outlier."

The root of the problem is a long list of financial policies and laws in Louisiana that heavily favor nursing homes. These special protections, many of them unique to Louisiana, are a testament to the strength of the state’s nursing home lobby, long a leading source of campaign cash for the state’s politicians.

"There's a bias toward institutionalization — both in our policies and our funding," said Karen LeBlanc, who has written critical reports for the Louisiana Legislative Auditor's Office about the way the state funds long-term care.

Maybe it's just a ploy by the Louisiana GOP to wring more contributions out of the nursing home lobby...