The Sony Xperia Z3 and Z3 compact has the best battery life out of ANY big flagship

[Radeon962]

They cheat? j/k

Do they standardize brightness settings etc in these tests? Say one phone has 100nits at 60% brightness but another phone is 200nits at 60%.

Users that have one and even the reviews are all coming back with the same results on battery life. All are finding it is best in class and providing very long battery life.

My Oneplus One is back over 6 hours SOT with the 38r update but still am looking hard at the Z3 as I would prefer a 5.2" phone.

 

[Radeon962]

Get your Z3 just in time to be out classes by the Z4.

http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z4_specs_reportedly_leak_z3x_might_not_exist-news-9969.php

 

[Phokus]

They cheat? j/k

Do they standardize brightness settings etc in these tests? Say one phone has 100nits at 60% brightness but another phone is 200nits at 60%.

They're not into bumping up the resolution ridiculously high like everyone else, that's part of the equation.

 

[Red Storm]

Get your Z3 just in time to be out classes by the Z4.

http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z4_specs_reportedly_leak_z3x_might_not_exist-news-9969.php

Sony has said that they are doing 6 month refresh cycles. Personally I don't like it, means the value of the phone you buy drops quicker than the usual pace.

 

[paperwastage]

Sony has said that they are doing 6 month refresh cycles. Personally I don't like it, means the value of the phone you buy drops quicker than the usual pace.

Well, android phone prices tank quickly regardless which manufacturer it comes from, especially if it has a high msrp/markup

Stick with apple if you want to resell+upgrade with smaller losses

 

[Andrmgic]

I'm happy with my Z3.

I don't spend that much time actively using the device outside of checking email, etc. so it nearly lasts me a (work)week between charges. Last time was like 4 days and I'm not using stamina mode.

 

[Aristotelian]

I'm very happy with my Z3 so far. The typical things I did on previous phones (stream viral lite content with microsoft exchange (push) on at the same time, hundreds of e-mails a day, lots of on-screen activity) do not drag the battery life down as it did, e.g., with my original Xperia Z. Also much better battery life than many of my work colleagues who are fond of those usb battery packs. I don't use stamina mode at all.

I'm also glad that Sony had a fast upgrade cycle with their first few flagship phones - I think their goal was to get their name associated with premium phone product lines, and they have (where I live in Europe, anyway). With the Z4, Z5 coming once a year - that should be good, and I'm not bothered by a Z4 coming soon - the Z3 will last me until the Z5, I bet.

 

[Red Storm]

Well, android phone prices tank quickly regardless which manufacturer it comes from, especially if it has a high msrp/markup

Stick with apple if you want to resell+upgrade with smaller losses

Apple products are no longer immune. iPhone 5S lost over half its value in a year, that's quite similar to the Android side.

 

[Dari]

Apple products are no longer immune. iPhone 5S lost over half its value in a year, that's quite similar to the Android side.

That alone says that people really wanted larger phones since screen size was the major difference between the 5s and 6 series. Next year things will probably return to normal.

 

[Red Storm]

That alone says that people really wanted larger phones since screen size was the major difference between the 5s and 6 series. Next year things will probably return to normal.

I noticed the same thing with iPads. People just aren't willing to pay as much for used ones as before.

 

[npaladin-2000]

Sony has said that they are doing 6 month refresh cycles. Personally I don't like it, means the value of the phone you buy drops quicker than the usual pace.

Depends, carriers pick them up in the US less often, that impacts things fairly heavily here, unlike markets where unlocked devices are more popular and/or are the norm. Particularly when the unlocked versions don't work right due to missing bands.

Given Sony's cycle, I wonder if they're better off trying to get carrier adoption for their Q1 release (and compete with Samsung [phone], LG, and HTC) or the Q3 release (And go to bat with Apple and Samsung [phablet]). Expecting both would probably be too much to ask for.

 

[swilli89]

Get your Z3 just in time to be out classes by the Z4.

http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z4_specs_reportedly_leak_z3x_might_not_exist-news-9969.php

A new product coming out in the future it totally irrelevant. As consumers we pay X amount of currency for Y value. Value is perceived as a combination of a products features and qualities.

Lets say you buy a z3 and no other phone ever comes out. In 1 year's time you will have a Sony z3.

Lets say you buy a z3 and a z4 comes out in 6 months. In 1 year's time you will have a Sony z3.

In either scenarios you have the product you paid for. Am I missing something?

 

[Radeon962]

A new product coming out in the future it totally irrelevant. As consumers we pay X amount of currency for Y value. Value is perceived as a combination of a products features and qualities.

Lets say you buy a z3 and no other phone ever comes out. In 1 year's time you will have a Sony z3.

Lets say you buy a z3 and a z4 comes out in 6 months. In 1 year's time you will have a Sony z3.

In either scenarios you have the product you paid for. Am I missing something?

No you are correct, but if you are a habitual upgrader then resale value gets dinged based on the new model being released.

The 6 month cycle is really hard on used prices as buyers know a better phone is coming shortly.

It's a lot like golf equipment. TaylorMade and Callaway products do not hold value well as their product release cycle is short.

Titleist and Ping on the other hand have longer cycles between new model releases and hold value for used equipment much better.

 

[Red Storm]

A new product coming out in the future it totally irrelevant. As consumers we pay X amount of currency for Y value. Value is perceived as a combination of a products features and qualities.

Lets say you buy a z3 and no other phone ever comes out. In 1 year's time you will have a Sony z3.

Lets say you buy a z3 and a z4 comes out in 6 months. In 1 year's time you will have a Sony z3.

In either scenarios you have the product you paid for. Am I missing something?

It is not irrelevant. If you buy a Z3 now, in one year your phone will be two generations behind. That's two big hits to the value of your phone, not including the standard decline in value over time. I am hesitant to spend money on a product that will so quickly be eclipsed by not one, but two future iterations. Maybe it doesn't matter to you, but it does to others, myself included.

Would you buy the Note 4 if the Note 5 was only a few months away?

 

[Radeon962]

Sony z3 camera test vs oneplus one

http://fortheloveoftech.com/2014/10...ne-camera-comparison-the-long-awaited-review/

 

[paperwastage]

Sony z3 camera test vs oneplus one

http://fortheloveoftech.com/2014/10...ne-camera-comparison-the-long-awaited-review/

thanks..... wonder if android L RAW would help solve some of those issues too

Also, rear sensorwise:

OPO: IMX 214

Z3: IMX 220

 

[swilli89]

It is not irrelevant. If you buy a Z3 now, in one year your phone will be two generations behind. That's two big hits to the value of your phone, not including the standard decline in value over time. I am hesitant to spend money on a product that will so quickly be eclipsed by not one, but two future iterations. Maybe it doesn't matter to you, but it does to others, myself included.

Would you buy the Note 4 if the Note 5 was only a few months away?

This is where flawed consumer perception wrecks things. Here is the real reason it doesn't matter if Sony is on a 6 month upgrade cycle:

Your phone competes with every other phone out there when it comes to selling to the used phone market.

So you want to sell your galaxy s4? Well the HTC one came out 5 months after that, and the nexus 5 after that. Samsung could have very well released an s5 6 months after but your used s4 is still competing with every other phone out there.

Now if we were in a vacuum and there were ONLY Sony z phones, then that cycle of obsolescence would matter completely.

Edit: To answer your question, yes. Because that would mean a Note 6 is a few months after the Note 5 and a Note 7 is a few months after a the Note 6. If it's the best phone for the money on the market I'm buying it and not using a lesser phone for a year or years just to save 100 bucks on a theoretical resale value. It's amazing how consumers want to shoot themselves in the foot by wanting less options. I've been studying consumer behavior in grad school for the past 2 years and it's pretty insane what we do to ourselves.