The shocking growth of state power to take over cities, remove elected officials

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JSt0rm

Lifer
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Please continue on with your fantasy little boy.

Well alright then.

I've never looked into purchasing real estate in a 3rd world country but I would imagine that the barrier to entry isnt very high. :cool: Enjoy King Londo, You deserve it.
 

JSt0rm

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Your were raised in the shithole of the US and talk about the south....what a fucking joke.

You see the difference is I got out. You didnt. Well except to retire in a 3rd world country. D: lul

I'm not a mid country person. Not much to interest me. Even the food is generally unremarkable. If one likes it good for them but not my cup of tea.

Only thing good in the midwest are the high end steak houses. Most people who live in the middle or south are just fucking stupid. This is why jobs will never come back to those areas.
 

JSt0rm

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Don't worry I will enjoy my tax free retirement in Indonesia.

Not very American of you. Also considering you will become an expat right at the age you start collecting your SS you have payed into your whole life I say LOL. Please go.
 

JSt0rm

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The jobs in the north won't come back, the south is seeing expansion right now.

The north is a total shit hole and will never come back to anything of value and the south is a slave wage shit hole full of an idiot voting block. We are in agreement.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Not very American of you. Also considering you will become an expat right at the age you start collecting your SS you have payed into your whole life I say LOL. Please go.

Spain looks pretty good though :p
 

MotF Bane

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West of Rochester. Better than Buffalo for business though. The remains of Kodak are here, but what's left of its US business is in the process of relocating out of state. Costs are out of hand. Xerox is still here but they're a shadow of what they were. Biggest employer is a local supermarket chain. Last time I was in Buffalo more property was available than occupied. Businesses tend to go to Toronto which is more business friendly than we are or just about anywhere unless they are somehow tied to wall street.

Local supermarket chain... sounds like Wegman's. And when a grocery store is a) your largest employer, and/or b) a tourist attraction, your city is kinda screwed.

RIT had a few articles in the student mag about how everyone graduated and then fled the state because there aren't any jobs.
 

MotF Bane

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The big coastal areas in the east seem to be doing well enough, but the housing market had gone to hell of course. Boston for example is still a decent tech area. Philly is a pit, always prone to corruption, but is now gone beyond redemption. That's why I said its government should be disbanded earlier. Tammany Hall on steroids.

I'm not a mid country person. Not much to interest me. Even the food is generally unremarkable. If one likes it good for them but not my cup of tea.

Massachusetts suffers from political lunacy similar to what you find in NY or CA. The good news is that NH is only an increasingly long thirty miles from Boston.
 

JSt0rm

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Massachusetts suffers from political lunacy similar to what you find in NY or CA. The good news is that NH is only an increasingly long thirty miles from Boston.

CA may have problems but you can only dream of having our economy.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Spain would be sweet :D Too expensive for king londo though :(

Do a little research. You can live cheaper in some good locations than here. Even Costa del Sol has some relative bargains. Try to find good coastal properties here. It's insane.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Massachusetts suffers from political lunacy similar to what you find in NY or CA. The good news is that NH is only an increasingly long thirty miles from Boston.

I moved from a place directly south of Boston and I would have agreed until I moved here. It's incredible these days. They even are raiding our property taxes legally earmarked for education to fund the $50 billion and growing Medicaid program. Had state inspectors here who admitted that conflicting regulations are opportunities to generate fines. It's ridiculous. NH was really nice :D
 

JSt0rm

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Do a little research. You can live cheaper in some good locations than here. Even Costa del Sol has some relative bargains. Try to find good coastal properties here. It's insane.


I'm probably going to marry into property in sweden, italy and germany. Of course I make my own so I will be looking for something nice in the future.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I'm probably going to marry into property in sweden, italy and germany. Of course I make my own so I will be looking for something nice in the future.


A lot of it depends on what the Euro did to a nations economy. Ireland is fscked for example. If you are willing to consider non EU nations there are some beautiful locations. Of course caveat emptor.
 

Craig234

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Additional story on this topic.

Republicans, here is another example of what you bring us.

In 2009, one of the cities in which the elected government was removed and one man put in charge, Pontiac, decided to sell the major public stadium, former home of an NFL team.

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The Stadium was built in 1964 for 55$ million.

The city council, no longer in power, had a 'symbolic vote' to oppose the sale, saying in that market it wouldn't sell for more than a half million dollars or so.

It was sold for $583,000, one percent of the price to build it.

The story is crazy enough already. But now, the new owners are lobbying the state to allow them to have a gambling establishment there.

Who is representing them, to get the legalization of gambling passed?

The same man who was the administrator who ordered it sold for that price. He stands to profit from his lowball sell of the public asset, the Rachel Maddow show reported.

These are the people and policies you are putting in power.

If we'd known about the auction, we could have had a group from here buy it.

http://tonightsforecastdark.blogspot.com/2012/05/rachel-maddow-pontiac-silverdome.html

Related newspaper story:

http://www.theoaklandpress.com/articles/2012/04/03/news/local_news/doc4f79f75623b9e211345006.txt
 
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Corn

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Lol crying about the sale of a vacant and derelict stadium for more than the land value. Pontiac made outlike a bandit that they found a sucker to pay that much for garbage. Pontiac is a perfect example what happens when you allow liberals to govern. Just look at detroit as another fine example of progressive incompetence.
 

Moonbeam

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Lol crying about the sale of a vacant and derelict stadium for more than the land value. Pontiac made outlike a bandit that they found a sucker to pay that much for garbage. Pontiac is a perfect example what happens when you allow liberals to govern. Just look at detroit as another fine example of progressive incompetence.

It doesn't seem fair to blame progressives. They have never been able to do anything. Democrats and Republicans won't let them.
 
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We have Republicans threatening to destroy Medicare, to drop a nuclear weapon in the class war lowering the tax rate on the richest Americans to 25%, a corrupt Republican attempting to *de-regulate further* oil drilling in the Mexico Gulf, states historically pursuing everything from claiming they don't have to follow federal law they disagree with to banning President Obama from the 2012 ballot to yet again prevent voter registration to a war on unions.

With the possible exception of that last issue, the most radical activity going on is largely sliding under the radar for the country.

It sounds so outrageous it's hard to believe it's happening, much less so quietly. It's the sort of thing if asked how you would react if those you disagree with did it, you would say you were outraged, and start citing the fundamental principles of the country and democracy.

It's the right-wing states' trying to pass - and passing - a greatly expanded right for these states to take over cities, to remove their elected leaders by declaration.

Rachel Maddow did a great job reporting on this, so just watch her clip:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#42672552

200 'takeover managers' being trained in one state? The targeting for the first takeover of an 85% black (read: Democratic) city?

They key issue here isn't the measure for a legitimate emergency as it has been in the past, but the great expansion of the power, lowering the bar for its use, going from where the state manager would work with city authorities, to where the state removes them.

While we're at it, on the topic of the stories above, more good segments on the voter registration restrictions now going on:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#42672623
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#42672709

With 60% of first-voters voting Democrat, and 30% Republican, the math is simple for the anti-American, anti-democracy agenda of the Republicans to prevent registration.

Think you have heard it before? How about a newly married woman being required to have her marriage certificate to vote?

Medicare has to be cut its costing too much money, EVERYONE should have lower tax rates and regulations kill businesses. You conveniently ignore the Democrats and there destruction of the US
 

blankslate

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Rachel Maddow is a liberal lesbian version of Sheppard Smith....

Only certain people don't slam one of them because of the network they're on.
 

JKing106

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Rachel Maddow isn't anything close to Glenn Beck. She's a good journalist who actually gets facts right. She's the liberal version of Anderson Cooper, not the liberal version of Glenn Beck.

Well, he doesn't know that. You can't expect anyone who watches Fox and listens to right wing propagandists to know anything about anything. He's just repeated what he's heard, like a retarded parrot.
 

piasabird

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So is this real registration of living people or are they making people up and registering people multiple times? The fact that people do not exist usually does not stop these community organizer organizations. There has been an influx at my college of people from areas like Ohio that lost their jobs and then then go visit their parents or grandparents until they can find a better job. So some of the people that may have been registered in the past dont exist in the state anymore. Often it is the hard-working people that will leave a region and move if there are no jobs. So many times it is only the people that live off the government that are forced to stay behind due to their low-income or indigent status.
 

FerrelGeek

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Too bad for Craig that this isn't being done by Chavez-esque types. He'd be all a flutter if that were the case.