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Cool, but I would like to see more shots of the overall area. I believe that pictures like that have been posted before.
It depends on what the outside looks like. If there was nothing else around it would be quite powerful to see a small empty village covered halfway up by sand.Pictures of the overall area might give you some better perspective and info perhaps but these shots are an artistic expression and those would not add anything to that.
Pictures of the overall area might give you some better perspective and info perhaps but these shots are an artistic expression and those would not add anything to that.
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In short, I'm really sick of photographers who think they are artists.
Those pics are used in one of the items listed on this page.
http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-series
Really cool webpage too, btw.
funny. once someone tries to define art or even remove a field from art, is the moment they fail to understand art.
simply put, Burke stated art as that which provokes response--he wrote extinsively about the "sublime" as that which provokes terror, both beautiful and horrible, and elicits the most profound of human emotion.
many, many things can be art. it is the individual who may be too blind to realize how one such piece may indeed be art.
That's BS. It represents exactly the kind of unengaged, uncritical pseudo feel-goodery that only denigrates the people who are capable of quality work. The "what is art" debate is obviously a bottomless pit, but to go hands off...that's exactly what's wrong with people who attempt to morph good photography into self-aggrandizing BS, calling it art simply because it has a few artistic components. It's not that they're wrong, it's that they're not even thinking about it.
I'd kind of question the idea that notions of the sublime from the mid 18th century are relevant to contemporary culture beyond a historical footnote. Times are different now, art and culture are different now. The psychological implications of the sublime were refined into science decades ago.
Think of it this way - These days we're surrounded by extremely competent, even stunning, impact generating photography. Whole industries are built around using such photos to sell you shit. TV. Billboards. Magazines. Ads.
I'm not comfortable with the idea that we're THAT surrounded by art. If you are, I feel sorry for you.
What we should be doing is calling photography what it is - an occasionally creative pursuit within a very defined set of boundaries. In other words, a design discipline. Doing so would remove a lot of the self aggrandizing BS that has clung to photography for years and skyrocketed with the DSLR. Tossing the platitudes would leave things at a much more critically engaged level - is it quality work or not? Why?
Oh please. These shots are not art - they're compelling, but on an artistic level they're barely above any run of the mill ruin porn.
Photographs principally exist to convey information. They may have artistic elements, but theres something key, about works of genuine artistic accomplishment a sense of precise crafted structure of work created from scratch. You can see the craft and connect a set of deliberate actions to the effect is has on people, even if you dont particularly like it.
Thing is, even stunning photography (think the best photojournalism, the luck-mixed-with-determination iconic photos everyone knows) doesnt get there. You can sense a feel for the basic composition, of technical competence but it doesnt strike that chord of creation.
Theres something so unbelievably utilitarian about a camera, and about even very good photography. With a camera and photoshop, theres such a defined set of rules that the latitude for 'art' is unbelievably narrow There is a very great deal that is entirely out of your hands. The camera takes everything in, leaving only the possibility of editing, either before or after you press the button. And editing isn't art.
In short, I'm really sick of photographers who think they are artists.
Oh please. These shots are not art - they're compelling, but on an artistic level they're barely above any run of the mill ruin porn.
Photographs principally exist to convey information. They may have artistic elements, but theres something key, about works of genuine artistic accomplishment a sense of precise crafted structure of work created from scratch. You can see the craft and connect a set of deliberate actions to the effect is has on people, even if you dont particularly like it.
Thing is, even stunning photography (think the best photojournalism, the luck-mixed-with-determination iconic photos everyone knows) doesnt get there. You can sense a feel for the basic composition, of technical competence but it doesnt strike that chord of creation.
Theres something so unbelievably utilitarian about a camera, and about even very good photography. With a camera and photoshop, theres such a defined set of rules that the latitude for 'art' is unbelievably narrow There is a very great deal that is entirely out of your hands. The camera takes everything in, leaving only the possibility of editing, either before or after you press the button. And editing isn't art.
In short, I'm really sick of photographers who think they are artists.
haha you are pretty funny. I'm going to bet you're a painter.
You do realize that as a painter you are just editing the canvas right? and editing isn't art?
So, you are arguing that no photography is art.
Right....