The Rolling Stones 'Bug Chaser' and 'Gift Giver' article

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Condoms and safe sex are openly ridiculed on bug-chasing Web sites, with many bug chasers rebelling against what they see as the dogma of safe-sex education; constantly thinking about a deadly disease takes all the fun out of sex, they say, and condoms suck. Carlos agrees and says getting HIV will make safe sex a moot point. "It's about freedom," he says. "What else can happen to us after this? You can fvck whoever you want, fvck as much as you want, and nothing worse can happen to you. Nothing bad can happen after you get HIV."

This is quite possibly the most disgusting group of people I've ever heard of, short of NAMBLA.
 

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People like "Carlos" from the article and their way of thinking makes me think Fidel Castro might have a point when it comes to HIV prevention.

Stupid, stupid people.
 

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Carlos offers, not for the first time, to have me come along and watch him and Richard have sex, but I decline. In the taxi to Richard's place, the conversation falls silent. He hasn't been tested in a couple of years, and he's reluctant to get a test now. He might very well be positive already. But as long as he doesn't know for sure, he can always hope that tonight is the night he gets the virus. Every date is potentially The One. Stepping out of the cab into the rain, I ask what he will do if he finds out one day that he has succeeded in being infected -- ending the fun of being a bug chaser. He stops, then says he might move on to being a gift giver: "If I know that he's negative and I'm fvcking him, it sort of gets me off. I'm murdering him in a sense, killing him slowly, and that's sort of, as sick as it sounds, exciting to me."

Once again, it is my opinion that willfull or knowledgeable HIV transmission should be a crime.
 

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So what does permissive society do with these guys?? If we were talking about any other disease what would be done??
 

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Originally posted by: IGBT
So what does permissive society do with these guys?? If we were talking about any other disease what would be done??

I seem to recall a case, years ago, of a man who deliberately infected a number of people with HIV... he was tried for murder, or attempted murder, etc. Anyone have any links?

Found some interesting info, here, on South African efforts to classify and punish people who possess HIV but fail to inform their partners.

Are there any public health statutes that these men could be prosecuted under? (since the transmission itself is consensual, but they're still detracting from the public health system in general?