The Rick Santorum venting thread

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zsdersw

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I'm not at all worried about the possibility of a President Santorum. The GOP isn't stupid enough to nominate a pro-life candidate for president in a country that is, on the whole, pro-choice. He would have exactly zero chance of winning against a cardboard cutout of an opponent, much less an incumbent president.
 

Triumph

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Remember when Bush II was elected? His religious and moral compass was supposed to guide the country in a new, correct direction after the blasphemous and immoral Clinton administration. His loving God apparently wanted him to take us through two disastrous and pointless wars. I thought that this country had had enough of the wacko religious nut jobs? I guess not. I'll vote for anyone that isn't a fundy psycho, Repub or Democrat.

I just love how the fundy christians think that gay marriage, banned nativity displays, and teaching of evolution are the real problems facing our country.
 

dawp

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I believe he only did so well in Iowa only because his bubble did not have time to burst by the time of caucuses like the others who had surged before him.
 

jackschmittusa

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So he is just another fundie asshole that thinks his personal brand of morality is so superior to that of others that they must be forced to conform or be penalized by the government.

No right to privacy? How about if we all look through the windows of his house? Can I request a copy of his income tax return when he is a private citizen?

The guy seems too obsessed with other people's sex lives. Sounds kind of perverted to me.

I also personally believe that anyone who claims ID/creationism is real science should automatically be disqualified from any public office by every voter with a brain.
 

Nebor

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Remember when Bush II was elected? His religious and moral compass was supposed to guide the country in a new, correct direction after the blasphemous and immoral Clinton administration. His loving God apparently wanted him to take us through two disastrous and pointless wars. I thought that this country had had enough of the wacko religious nut jobs? I guess not. I'll vote for anyone that isn't a fundy psycho, Repub or Democrat.

I just love how the fundy christians think that gay marriage, banned nativity displays, and teaching of evolution are the real problems facing our country.

God wants us to kill brown people. ():)
 

FerrelGeek

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lol.... you got me on that one. Gross!

Can't believe the musical chair of all the wack jobs the right has to offer. Is this really the best they can field for 2012? I'm depressed at the state of our country with the candidates we have on the right and the one choice on the left.

It's politics, sugarplum, get real! Go back and look at other primaries (from both parties) and see what they were like. Or you can just go back to playing with your anatomically correct Obama blow-up doll.

Santorum is vile and evil, but I think it's pretty loathsome to criticize how two parents grieve for the loss of a child; I can't even begin to place myself in that situation.

Loathsome describes the msm / dems in most cases. The reps aren't perfect either, but dems have no bounds when it comes to showing their hatred of people that dare to disagree with them. And btw, I'm not a Santorum fan, just to be clear.

Am I the only one who finds watching videos of Rick Santorum trying to be affectionate to his disabled child awkward and uncomfortable?

Because you're blinded by your partisan hatred and think that it's not possible for anyone on the rep side to actually care about their children?


Whatever. Typical libertrol hate for the win.
 

airdata

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He's just the fruit du jour of the Republican's this week.

That his turn in the limelight happened to coincide with the Iowa Caucus was fortunate for him, but will probably end up being more short lived than Cain's or Perry's.

Romney is their nominee...even if they don't want to admit it yet.

You're probably right. Santorum is no different than Bachman or Cain.

It's clear Romney is the corporate choice, given his huge lead in campaign donations. Only Obama has more donations at $86M and I'd have to assume that most regular people aren't giving him money at this point.

We'll just use this election to show everybody that our process is corrupt and is up for sale to the highest bidder, and not the best qualified candidate.
 

airdata

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. The reps aren't perfect either, but dems have no bounds when it comes to showing their hatred of people that dare to disagree with them

Are you serious? Are you new to the forums here?
 

Zedtom

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He better hope that he didn't engage in any unseemly behavior in college when he was a student at Penn State.
 

Perknose

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More on this loathsome asshole hypocrite:

Santorum Fights Against Freedom He's Used

Most of us, when we suffer from a traumatic situation, find that it increases our empathy with others in similar circumstances, and many of us are driven to become activists fighting to make life easier for people in similiar situations. But for Rick Santorum, trauma drove him in the other direction: It decreased his empathy for others in similiar situations, and caused him to want to increase their pain and suffering. That's the lesson to be drawn from this profile of Santorum in the New York Times, which explains that after his wife, Karen, got very sick at 20 weeks of pregnancy and was spared by a spontaneous abortion/early delivery (the distinction is more cultural than biological), Santorum got busy making sure other couples in the same situation could never have the options and speedy medical care that helped save Karen's life.

As reported in the Philadelphia Inquirer in 1997, the Santorum family was preparing to abort the pregnancy that was making Karen very ill and threatening to take her life.
The surgical abortion was unnecessary, because Karen's body went into action and saved her by pushing out the fetus. Because of this, they were fortunate enough to have an intact body to name and bury, which they felt was an important part of the grieving process. After that trauma, Santorum went on to fight for a ban on "partial-birth abortion," which is actually called a D&X. It's an abortion technique that was developed by doctors for later term pregnancies that allowed them to remove the fetus in one piece with minimal damage to the woman's body. (The other option is to dismember the fetus inside the womb, which is more dangerous.) As the Santorums can attest, taking the fetus out in one piece is an act of mercy for the parents losing a very often wanted pregnancy gone horribly wrong, allowing them to have a body to grieve over, if that's what they wish. By pushing the ban on D&X, Santorum helped deprive other couples of the grieving process he and his wife were able to take advantage of.

Additionally, Santorum has fought hard to keep other couples from being able to work with doctors during a medical emergency to best decide the course that's the best fit for them. Because doctors in Pennsylvania are allowed to perform abortions at 20 weeks without having to demonstrate that not doing so would kill or cripple the woman involved, the Santorums didn't have to face doctors who were afraid to do the abortion because they weren't 100 percent they could defend that choice in court, have a medical board examine the situation to see if it passes muster, or hire a lawyer to advocate for Karen's rights. Anyone who knows bureaucracy knows that trying to get your ducks in a row like that can take time, and with the speed with which the disease that gripped Karen was progessing, many women in her shoes would die if they had to jump through those hoops.

But Santorum wants to not only overturn the laws that allowed him and his wife to make their medical decisions freely, he wants to tighten up the exceptions to add even more red tape than those who need abortions after 23 weeks endure now. Santorum claims that health exemptions are "phony." I'm sure he feels he's not a hypocrite for this, because the abortion he and his wife were contemplating was to save her life, not "merely" to prevent the pregnancy from crippling her. But the problem with that is that if you're a doctor working to save someone's life in a legal structure that assumes that abortions for health reasons are "phony," good luck trying to parse out the difference between saving a life and saving someone's health. Doctors in these situations work to a wellness standard, not a "keep her alive, if you must, but just barely" standard. If one doctor thinks that a condition has a 40 percent chance of killing a woman and another thinks it has a 60 percent chance of killing her, what then? I fail to see how the lawyers can't get involved, unless the government is willing to let it basically go as long as the proper paperwork is filed. But since these laws are being passed by rabid anti-choicers who claim that the threat of being crippled is not enough to let you have an abortion, the chance of that happening is pretty low.

This money shot concluding paragraph really sums it up!

Abortion providers often joke about their anti-abortion patients, saying they believe in exceptions for "health, rape, and me." Well, in this era, there are increasing numbers of Santorum-style anti-choicers who want that exception narrowed to "me." The problem for golden children like Santorum who believe there will always be an exception for them is that the law has no way to establish what these special snowflakes believe about themselves, that they are mysteriously special and should always be given a break that others clearly don't deserve for reasons unarticulated.

Specifics of his towering hypocrisy:

In the fall, Santorum, the leading proponent of barring the procedure - termed ``partial-birth abortion'' by its foes - was within hours of having to decide whether to use an abortion to save the life of his wife, Karen Garver Santorum, who was in her fifth month of pregnancy.

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In an interview, the Santorums said they would have authorized an abortion had there been no other choice.
 

Lanyap

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He's a real douchebag. I don't believe you will see a lot of righties in here defending him.
 

IonusX

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He's just the fruit du jour of the Republican's this week.

That his turn in the limelight happened to coincide with the Iowa Caucus was fortunate for him, but will probably end up being more short lived than Cain's or Perry's.

Romney is their nominee...even if they don't want to admit it yet.

or paul.. paul has been very conbsistent despite being told he cant win.. ive yet to see many polls where he doesnt place in 2nd or 3rd.. and in iowa caucus it solidifies that knowledge. the rest have fluctuated like the stocks on silver. even romney isnt immune to the fact that there have been polls where hes placed 4th or fifth.
as for santorum he doesnt have a ghost of a chance in new hamp. or s. carolina or florida.. the guy just had his momment to shine and thats it.. i agree, iowa was a fluke and consider it a blessing romney didnt win.
in the evnet he should win one of the enxt 3 states on the docet id be real suprised.. and then voice my support for him as then its just more time for obama.. and thats when he will fall apart
you see id think obama has another 4 years of president in him.. i cant see him as an 8yr pres. and want to see the presidency get run aground about as bad as bush..
 

lopri

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I support Rick Santorum / Maggie Gallagher ticket. 110%
 

Perknose

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I support Rick Santorum / Maggie Gallagher ticket. 110%

A Frothy Mix
Of Bigotry and Ignorance!


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etrigan420

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or paul.. paul has been very conbsistent despite being told he cant win.. ive yet to see many polls where he doesnt place in 2nd or 3rd.. and in iowa caucus it solidifies that knowledge. the rest have fluctuated like the stocks on silver. even romney isnt immune to the fact that there have been polls where hes placed 4th or fifth.
as for santorum he doesnt have a ghost of a chance in new hamp. or s. carolina or florida.. the guy just had his momment to shine and thats it.. i agree, iowa was a fluke and consider it a blessing romney didnt win.
in the evnet he should win one of the enxt 3 states on the docet id be real suprised.. and then voice my support for him as then its just more time for obama.. and thats when he will fall apart
you see id think obama has another 4 years of president in him.. i cant see him as an 8yr pres. and want to see the presidency get run aground about as bad as bush..

I actually had originally swapped out Mitt with Dr. Paul when I first wrote my post. I think he would have a fair chance at winning...but I also think that most level headed Republicans don't believe (rightly or wrongly) that Ron Paul can beat Barack Obama. It all comes down on who can best beat the incumbent, not who can do the best job at President...sadly...
 

Lemon law

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Santorum is vile and evil, but I think it's pretty loathsome to criticize how two parents grieve for the loss of a child; I can't even begin to place myself in that situation.
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I have to totally agree with Loki here, to criticize the Santorium's in their maybe irrational grief of losing a child, is a cheap shot that should shame us all.

40 years ago when I was a young man I watched two separate couples lose a wife in childbirth and another Couple lose their first born child to Sids. I have other reasons to dislike Rick Santorum, but I would not wish a still borne infant on my worst enemy.

Maybe unlike Loki I can place myself in that situation from being a witness to the devastation that it caused my friends. So you will not find me making critical statements about the total grief of the Santorum's. Take my word for it, losing a child in child birth is devastating as they try to make sense out of the senseless. I hope by the grace of God none of you every experience it. Because understanding it is humanly impossible.

So thank you Loki for saying it first.