The Rich Aren't Supporting our Troops in the war on Terror

[Infohawk]

And you know GWB only wants to lower the rate too. We have this world-wide war on terror and where are those the greatest means? Trying to lower taxes even further. If we're in such a time in need, maybe they should step up to the plate like the greatest generation did since it's not like they're sending their sons and daughters to die anyway? How many pieces of body armor can a fourth mansion buy? I know, I know, shrub needs to spend his extra money on the record-breaking vacations he takes....

History of Income Tax in USA w/ Rates

 

[Orsorum]

You are ignorant, foolish, and greedy. That's all I will say on the subject, because that's all you deserve.

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: Orsorum
You are ignorant, foolish, and greedy. That's all I will say on the subject, because that's all you deserve.

My respect for you increases daily.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Orsorum
You are ignorant, foolish, and greedy. That's all I will say on the subject, because that's all you deserve.

Nice ad hominem. 9/10 I give you for that troll!


I'm the one who's greedy? :roll:

 

[ntdz]

what a retarded post. Are you saying we should go back to 91% for the top rate? That'd be a disaster for the country.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Orsorum
You are ignorant, foolish, and greedy. That's all I will say on the subject, because that's all you deserve.

Nice ad hominem. 9/10 I give you for that troll!

I'm giving you my honest opinion of the opinion you just gave. You categorize an entire group of people as unpatriotic and unwilling to serve. I know a great many upper middle class and upper class families, and they place just as much emphasis on military service and patriotic duty as do most American families.

You do a disservice to every intelligent, reasoned political debater on these boards.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: ntdz
what a retarded post. Are you saying we should go back to 91% for the top rate? That'd be a disaster for the country.

I'm saying if the Republicans want to spend so much on the war on terror and in countries that they pick fights with, they need to step up to the plate and start asking rich people to give more. We won WWII and the rich paid 91% in taxes. Did rich people fall of the face of the earth? No. Was American capitalism destroyed? No. The US won the war. Can't have that happening again I guess.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Orsorum
I know a great many upper middle class and upper class families, and they place just as much emphasis on military service and patriotic duty as do most American families.

Sweed anecdotal evidence. :thumbsdown:

I guess when it comes to parting with the cash in their pocket book those "upper class families" draw the line?

Upper middle class? We're talking about the top rate here. Focus with that Accounting and BS degree you're so proud of sharing with everybody. :roll:

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Orsorum
I know a great many upper middle class and upper class families, and they place just as much emphasis on military service and patriotic duty as do most American families.

Sweed anecdotal evidence. :thumbsdown:

I guess when it comes to parting with the cash in their pocket book those "upper class families" draw the line?

Upper middle class? We're talking about the top rate here. Focus with that Accounting and BS degree you're so proud of sharing with everybody. :roll:

And you've given absolutely zero evidence to support your assertions that upper-class families don't support military service.

 

[Genx87]

I find it amazing during WWII it was 91%. And remained at 70% upto 1964.

btw in 1964 we were starting to get involved in Vietnam. Silly democrats must as trying to protect the rich

 

[ReiAyanami]

the point is that the rich don't need double tax cuts when we have record budget deficits and natl debt

i mean how are we gonna fund 4 more wars for oil when we're $8 trillion in debt?

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

And you've given absolutely zero evidence to support your assertions that upper-class families don't support military service.

Gnarly strawman dude! Never argued they don't support "military service." Said they aren't forking enough out to pay for the war and the troops that fight in it.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Infohawk
If we're in such a time in need, maybe they should step up to the plate like the greatest generation did since it's not like they're sending their sons and daughters to die anyway?

Quoted for truth.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Genx87
I find it amazing during WWII it was 91%. And remained at 70% upto 1964.

Yup, and to think the sky didn't fall that whole time. That's because rich people can afford to be taxed at higher income levels. Hence, the beauty of progressive taxation.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
the point is that the rich don't need double tax cuts when we have record budget deficits and natl debt

i mean how are we gonna fund 4 more wars for oil when we're $8 trillion in debt?

I never said I agreed with the tax cuts that were recently rolled out. What we need is wisdom and prudent financial planning as a nation, including a phasing out of wealth transfer and entitlement programs.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: Infohawk
If we're in such a time in need, maybe they should step up to the plate like the greatest generation did since it's not like they're sending their sons and daughters to die anyway?

Quoted for truth.

Yes, all studies I've seen show that most footsoldiers are from middle and lower class backgrounds. So no matter how much lipservice the rich might give, the stats show that the troops aren't coming from their homes.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Infohawk
And you know GWB only wants to lower the rate too. We have this world-wide war on terror and where are those the greatest means? Trying to lower taxes even further. If we're in such a time in need, maybe they should step up to the plate like the greatest generation did since it's not like they're sending their sons and daughters to die anyway? How many pieces of body armor can a fourth mansion buy? I know, I know, shrub needs to spend his extra money on the record-breaking vacations he takes....

History of Income Tax in USA w/ Rates

What a nonsensical point. How about this: Kerry want to bring jobs to Americans. Why doesn't he start some companies and factories in poor neighborhoods with his wife's fortune? Why doesn't he sell his house and cars to provide healthcare for the needy? Oh, I now, I know, he needs to spend that extra money on another yacht. :roll:

Stick to actually topics - the stupidity of this post of mine was only matched by yours.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: Infohawk
If we're in such a time in need, maybe they should step up to the plate like the greatest generation did since it's not like they're sending their sons and daughters to die anyway?

Quoted for truth.

Yes, all studies I've seen show that most footsoldiers are from middle and lower class backgrounds. So no matter how much lipservice the rich might give, the stats show that the troops aren't coming from their homes.

Prove it.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
What a nonsensical point. How about this: Kerry want to bring jobs to Americans. Why doesn't he start some companies and factories in poor neighborhoods with his wife's fortune? Why doesn't he sell his house and cars to provide healthcare for the needy? Oh, I now, I know, he needs to spend that extra money on another yacht. :roll:

Here's the difference between Kerry and other rich people! He's working to roll back the tax cuts for the wealthiest! And people like you and GWB are fighting him.

Stick to actually topics - the stupidity of this post of mine was only matched by yours.

It's hard to understand your sentence but I think you're taking responsibility for the off-topic nature of your post and its stupidity. If so, good job.

 

[FuzzyBee]

Originally posted by: Infohawk
That's because rich people can afford to be taxed at higher income levels. Hence, the beauty of progressive taxation.

That's what Karl Marx thought, too.

 

[Genx87]

Yup, and to think the sky didn't fall that whole time. That's because rich people can afford to be taxed at higher income levels. Hence, the beauty of progressive taxation.

It can be argued that the economic success we have had since the 60s is a direct result of the lower taxes on the rich.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee


That's what Karl Marx thought, too.

And FDR and the "Greatest Generation"

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Prove it.

There have been numerous sociological studies on who comprises the members of the Armed Forces. Minorities and poor and middle class people are overrepresented. I'm not interested researching the actual sources for you right now but maybe if I have the time later I will.

 

[FuzzyBee]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee


That's what Karl Marx thought, too.

And FDR and the "Greatest Generation"

You'll have to pardon me for refusing to believe that people that are more financially successful should be penalized for their success at a heavier rate than the financially unsuccessful.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Here's the difference between Kerry and other rich people! He's working to roll back the tax cuts for the wealthiest! And people like you and GWB are fighting him.

:laugh:

It's hard to understand your sentence but I think you're taking responsibility for the off-topic nature of your post and its stupidity. If so, good job.

Yep, and I was hoping you'd do the same for this entire thread, but alas, you didn't.