The revolution will not be American.

[envy me]

The revolution will not be American

No, folks, there is no tearing (or tearing) away the eyes of this America from their idiot box, and they wouldn't dare risk their cell phone bars. Rome did not fall to the Romans. The Nazis were not defeated by Germans. The sole example of genuine popular uprising and destruction of government is the French Revolution, which soon fell to Napoleon, who did not abdicate to any Frenchman. Indeed, the Constitution itself was not an act of popular demand. The Second Revolutionaries of Washington, Paine and Hancock, et al met in secret, and spent years brokering the political deals to eclipse the Articles of Confederation; politicians overthrowing politicians in a new country's elimination rounds.

Pretty decent article.


I beleive that the current administration will proceed to do as they please regarding: torture, raping the economy, haliburton no-bid contracts and detention camps, rigged voting machines, questionable foreign policy (sending billions of dollars in foreign aid while americans are homeless/starved), and Americans will simply sit idly by and let it happen.

I can forsee a situation in the future where Americans are liberated from their illegal government by a foreign country simply because the American military force is already stretched very thin, with troops in Afghanistan, Iraq, soon-to-be Iran and they have already pissed off most of the world with their foreign policy.

If another superpower (eg. Russia) would engage the US for whatever reason and topple the corrupt government, would it really be a bad thing? Consider for a moment the above happened, causing minimal casualties and: a war crimes trial for every member of the administration, prison terms for EVERY member of parliament, congress, senate, trials for executives in control of mass media, which are the real weapons of mass destruction. Give back the country to the citizens, not corporate interests. Would it really be that bad of a thing?

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: envy me
The revolution will not be American

No, folks, there is no tearing (or tearing) away the eyes of this America from their idiot box, and they wouldn't dare risk their cell phone bars. Rome did not fall to the Romans. The Nazis were not defeated by Germans. The sole example of genuine popular uprising and destruction of government is the French Revolution, which soon fell to Napoleon, who did not abdicate to any Frenchman. Indeed, the Constitution itself was not an act of popular demand. The Second Revolutionaries of Washington, Paine and Hancock, et al met in secret, and spent years brokering the political deals to eclipse the Articles of Confederation; politicians overthrowing politicians in a new country's elimination rounds.

Pretty decent article.


I beleive that the current administration will proceed to do as they please regarding: torture, raping the economy, haliburton no-bid contracts and detention camps, rigged voting machines, questionable foreign policy (sending billions of dollars in foreign aid while americans are homeless/starved), and Americans will simply sit idly by and let it happen.

I can forsee a situation in the future where Americans are liberated from their illegal government by a foreign country simply because the American military force is already stretched very thin, with troops in Afghanistan, Iraq, soon-to-be Iran and they have already pissed off most of the world with their foreign policy.

If another superpower (eg. Russia) would engage the US for whatever reason and topple the corrupt government, would it really be a bad thing? Consider for a moment the above happened, causing minimal casualties and: a war crimes trial for every member of the administration, prison terms for EVERY member of parliament, congress, senate, trials for executives in control of mass media, which are the real weapons of mass destruction. Give back the country to the citizens, not corporate interests. Would it really be that bad of a thing?

A occupation by a foreign country would be a big hell no, sure the system is broke but its our problem to take care of, and americas choice to be fed up enough to do it when we see fit/people get motivated.

We can and do have revoloutions every time we vote in a way, unfortunately that is where we need to start changing things, not toppling the whole thing and starting again. It seems easier to knock it all down to start from square one until you are looking at the rubble.



BTW, your probably on a no-fly list now from posting this

 

[Genx87]

If another superpower (eg. Russia) would engage the US for whatever reason and topple the corrupt government, would it really be a bad thing? Consider for a moment the above happened, causing minimal casualties and: a war crimes trial for every member of the administration, prison terms for EVERY member of parliament, congress, senate, trials for executives in control of mass media, which are the real weapons of mass destruction. Give back the country to the citizens, not corporate interests. Would it really be that bad of a thing?

Taken right from a script of Eastern Europe post WWII.
Public trials, executions, toppling of the current regime. Nothing like a good old witchhunt in the name of humanity to wake you up in the morning.

Somehow I imagine after the trials are done and the installed puppets realize they like the power. The citizens this was created over will be forgotten and oppressed worse than anything you can dream up from this administration.

Edit: I read the rest of that article. It was decent, it was pathetic.

 

[envy me]

Originally posted by: Genx87

If another superpower (eg. Russia) would engage the US for whatever reason and topple the corrupt government, would it really be a bad thing? Consider for a moment the above happened, causing minimal casualties and: a war crimes trial for every member of the administration, prison terms for EVERY member of parliament, congress, senate, trials for executives in control of mass media, which are the real weapons of mass destruction. Give back the country to the citizens, not corporate interests. Would it really be that bad of a thing?

Taken right from a script of Eastern Europe post WWII.
Public trials, executions, toppling of the current regime. Nothing like a good old witchhunt in the name of humanity to wake you up in the morning.

Somehow I imagine after the trials are done and the installed puppets realize they like the power. The citizens this was created over will be forgotten and oppressed worse than anything you can dream up from this administration.

It worked in post Europe did it not?

Just take the country back from the corporate interests and give it to the people. Out of 250 Million people you are forced to vote for 1 out of 2 (with identical views on everything [ bush vs. kery] ) Either way, the administration is guilty of war crimes (amongst other things), and they will never stand trial while they are in power.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: envy me

Originally posted by: Genx87

If another superpower (eg. Russia) would engage the US for whatever reason and topple the corrupt government, would it really be a bad thing? Consider for a moment the above happened, causing minimal casualties and: a war crimes trial for every member of the administration, prison terms for EVERY member of parliament, congress, senate, trials for executives in control of mass media, which are the real weapons of mass destruction. Give back the country to the citizens, not corporate interests. Would it really be that bad of a thing?

Taken right from a script of Eastern Europe post WWII.
Public trials, executions, toppling of the current regime. Nothing like a good old witchhunt in the name of humanity to wake you up in the morning.

Somehow I imagine after the trials are done and the installed puppets realize they like the power. The citizens this was created over will be forgotten and oppressed worse than anything you can dream up from this administration.

It worked in post Europe did it not?

Just take the country back from the corporate interests and give it to the people. Out of 250 Million people you are forced to vote for 1 out of 2 (with identical views on everything [ bush vs. kery] ) Either way, the administration is guilty of war crimes (amongst other things), and they will never stand trial while they are in power.

What worked in Post WWII Europe? Mock trials, executions, concentration camps?

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Genx87

What worked in Post WWII Europe? Mock trials, executions, concentration camps?

I think hes talking about the velvet revoloution..czechoslovakia, maybe romania?

 

[envy me]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: envy me

Originally posted by: Genx87

If another superpower (eg. Russia) would engage the US for whatever reason and topple the corrupt government, would it really be a bad thing? Consider for a moment the above happened, causing minimal casualties and: a war crimes trial for every member of the administration, prison terms for EVERY member of parliament, congress, senate, trials for executives in control of mass media, which are the real weapons of mass destruction. Give back the country to the citizens, not corporate interests. Would it really be that bad of a thing?

Taken right from a script of Eastern Europe post WWII.
Public trials, executions, toppling of the current regime. Nothing like a good old witchhunt in the name of humanity to wake you up in the morning.

Somehow I imagine after the trials are done and the installed puppets realize they like the power. The citizens this was created over will be forgotten and oppressed worse than anything you can dream up from this administration.

It worked in post Europe did it not?

Just take the country back from the corporate interests and give it to the people. Out of 250 Million people you are forced to vote for 1 out of 2 (with identical views on everything [ bush vs. kery] ) Either way, the administration is guilty of war crimes (amongst other things), and they will never stand trial while they are in power.

What worked in Post WWII Europe? Mock trials, executions, concentration camps?

Post-WWII = post Hitler no? Post=after??? All responsible for the millions of deaths during that time period were put on trial etc. Now look at Germany.

 

[envy me]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Genx87

What worked in Post WWII Europe? Mock trials, executions, concentration camps?

I think hes talking about the velvet revoloution..czechoslovakia, maybe romania?

Germany pre WW2 vs Germany post WW2 is a big difference. I was refering to how it changed from when Hitler was in power to after he was toppled.

 

[EatSpam]

More than likely, the country will just disintegrate on its own as a result of mass illegal immigration, the consolidation of wealth in the upper classes, and the destruction of the middle class.

 

[sMiLeYz]

I didn't advocate regime change then(Iraq), and I certainly don't advocate regime change now. No matter how corrupt, incompetant, and dangerous our leader is... it's the responsibility of the people NOT foreign forces to intervine.

 

[envy me]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
I didn't advocate regime change then(Iraq), and I certainly don't advocate regime change now. No matter how corrupt, incompetant, and dangerous our leader is... it's the responsibility of the people NOT foreign forces to intervine.

Military + Homeland Security > Civilians with limited gun laws.

Do you think it will ever come to that point in America? Civilian Revolution?

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: envy me

Germany pre WW2 vs Germany post WW2 is a big difference. I was refering to how it changed from when Hitler was in power to after he was toppled.

Are you talking about the same Germany that recently wanted to erect illegal concentration camps for refugees in the African desert, hates minorities, had ethnicity-based citizenship requirements until recently, government tries to ban rival political parties, etc.?

You must be talking about some other Germany. Maybe some new one sprouted up somewhere.

 

[envy me]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: envy me

Germany pre WW2 vs Germany post WW2 is a big difference. I was refering to how it changed from when Hitler was in power to after he was toppled.

Are you talking about the same Germany that recently wanted to erect illegal concentration camps for refugees in the African desert, hates minorities, had ethnicity-based citizenship requirements until recently, government tries to ban rival political parties, etc.?

You must be talking about some other Germany. Maybe some new one sprouted up somewhere.

hmmm.. I wasn't aware of any of those. I visited Germany (13 years ago) and it was a beautiful country, and I felt very welcome there. I was also visiting as a minority.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: envy me
The revolution will not be American

No, folks, there is no tearing (or tearing) away the eyes of this America from their idiot box, and they wouldn't dare risk their cell phone bars. Rome did not fall to the Romans. The Nazis were not defeated by Germans. The sole example of genuine popular uprising and destruction of government is the French Revolution, which soon fell to Napoleon, who did not abdicate to any Frenchman. Indeed, the Constitution itself was not an act of popular demand. The Second Revolutionaries of Washington, Paine and Hancock, et al met in secret, and spent years brokering the political deals to eclipse the Articles of Confederation; politicians overthrowing politicians in a new country's elimination rounds.

Pretty decent article.


I beleive that the current administration will proceed to do as they please regarding: torture, raping the economy, haliburton no-bid contracts and detention camps, rigged voting machines, questionable foreign policy (sending billions of dollars in foreign aid while americans are homeless/starved), and Americans will simply sit idly by and let it happen.

I can forsee a situation in the future where Americans are liberated from their illegal government by a foreign country simply because the American military force is already stretched very thin, with troops in Afghanistan, Iraq, soon-to-be Iran and they have already pissed off most of the world with their foreign policy.

If another superpower (eg. Russia) would engage the US for whatever reason and topple the corrupt government, would it really be a bad thing? Consider for a moment the above happened, causing minimal casualties and: a war crimes trial for every member of the administration, prison terms for EVERY member of parliament, congress, senate, trials for executives in control of mass media, which are the real weapons of mass destruction. Give back the country to the citizens, not corporate interests. Would it really be that bad of a thing?

A occupation by a foreign country would be a big hell no, sure the system is broke but its our problem to take care of, and americas choice to be fed up enough to do it when we see fit/people get motivated.

We can and do have revoloutions every time we vote in a way, unfortunately that is where we need to start changing things, not toppling the whole thing and starting again. It seems easier to knock it all down to start from square one until you are looking at the rubble.



BTW, your probably on a no-fly list now from posting this

There are a lot of people who would claim that it's not only 'your problem' and therefore that it may not be only 'up to you to fix it'.

 

[Polish3d]

Originally posted by: envy me
The revolution will not be American

No, folks, there is no tearing (or tearing) away the eyes of this America from their idiot box, and they wouldn't dare risk their cell phone bars. Rome did not fall to the Romans. The Nazis were not defeated by Germans. The sole example of genuine popular uprising and destruction of government is the French Revolution, which soon fell to Napoleon, who did not abdicate to any Frenchman. Indeed, the Constitution itself was not an act of popular demand. The Second Revolutionaries of Washington, Paine and Hancock, et al met in secret, and spent years brokering the political deals to eclipse the Articles of Confederation; politicians overthrowing politicians in a new country's elimination rounds.

Pretty decent article.


I beleive that the current administration will proceed to do as they please regarding: torture, raping the economy, haliburton no-bid contracts and detention camps, rigged voting machines, questionable foreign policy (sending billions of dollars in foreign aid while americans are homeless/starved), and Americans will simply sit idly by and let it happen.

I can forsee a situation in the future where Americans are liberated from their illegal government by a foreign country simply because the American military force is already stretched very thin, with troops in Afghanistan, Iraq, soon-to-be Iran and they have already pissed off most of the world with their foreign policy.

If another superpower (eg. Russia) would engage the US for whatever reason and topple the corrupt government, would it really be a bad thing? Consider for a moment the above happened, causing minimal casualties and: a war crimes trial for every member of the administration, prison terms for EVERY member of parliament, congress, senate, trials for executives in control of mass media, which are the real weapons of mass destruction. Give back the country to the citizens, not corporate interests. Would it really be that bad of a thing?

Russia taking over the US in a fairly bloodless way and then setting up a more legitimate and honest government being a good or even plausible thing?

What the F9cuk is all I have to add about this post

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: EatSpam
More than likely, the country will just disintegrate on its own as a result of mass illegal immigration, the consolidation of wealth in the upper classes, and the destruction of the middle class.

Happening right in front of our eyes.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie


There are a lot of people who would claim that it's not only 'your problem' and therefore that it may not be only 'up to you to fix it'.

I know the type well, (plenty in here) and they can all go take a leap.

Granted we are already are a somewhat free democracy so I could see the argument for it in a different light then say some hellhole like iraq, but it is still our responsibility to hit the reboot button, not anyone elses.

 

[judasmachine]

if this soil is ever occupied by a large froiegn force i fear the patriots buried in the mountain bunkers will unleash the hounds, and there won't be anything left worth fighting over.

 

[Polish3d]

Originally posted by: EatSpam
More than likely, the country will just disintegrate on its own as a result of mass illegal immigration, the consolidation of wealth in the upper classes, and the destruction of the middle class.

Add to that the bankrupting of the treasuring due to social program overload and rampant spending, and the illegals becoming a voting force who vote themselves funds out of the treasury, and you've got a real problem.

However, I once read an article that predicted good economic conditions for the US because of the increasing workforce due to immigration. But, it's important these people be made legitimate citzens rather than an outcast segment of society.

BTW, my intent is to go into government.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: envy me
The revolution will not be American

No, folks, there is no tearing (or tearing) away the eyes of this America from their idiot box, and they wouldn't dare risk their cell phone bars. Rome did not fall to the Romans. The Nazis were not defeated by Germans. The sole example of genuine popular uprising and destruction of government is the French Revolution, which soon fell to Napoleon, who did not abdicate to any Frenchman. Indeed, the Constitution itself was not an act of popular demand. The Second Revolutionaries of Washington, Paine and Hancock, et al met in secret, and spent years brokering the political deals to eclipse the Articles of Confederation; politicians overthrowing politicians in a new country's elimination rounds.

Pretty decent article.


I beleive that the current administration will proceed to do as they please regarding: torture, raping the economy, haliburton no-bid contracts and detention camps, rigged voting machines, questionable foreign policy (sending billions of dollars in foreign aid while americans are homeless/starved), and Americans will simply sit idly by and let it happen.

I can forsee a situation in the future where Americans are liberated from their illegal government by a foreign country simply because the American military force is already stretched very thin, with troops in Afghanistan, Iraq, soon-to-be Iran and they have already pissed off most of the world with their foreign policy.

If another superpower (eg. Russia) would engage the US for whatever reason and topple the corrupt government, would it really be a bad thing? Consider for a moment the above happened, causing minimal casualties and: a war crimes trial for every member of the administration, prison terms for EVERY member of parliament, congress, senate, trials for executives in control of mass media, which are the real weapons of mass destruction. Give back the country to the citizens, not corporate interests. Would it really be that bad of a thing?

I think our "fall" will come in the distant future, and be similar to England's fall. I don't think the USA will ever not be a major world power, I just can't see us being overtaken, as far as power goes, by more than China and India. We still have a relatively big population with a lot of money and assets, as well as a great military. There is no way in hell any country will invade us and win, and I can't imagine any country even thinking about that. China is a peaceful country for the most part, and right now we have good relations with India with no indication that might change. We still have many allies that would protect us, and we're members of NATO which forces countries to protect member states in the case of unprovoked (militarily) invasion.

 

[tommywishbone]

I don't care who crushes the current system... as long as somebody does. The Fat Cats are way too powerful for us to defeat. I welcome any & all help.

Herr Bushler is totally insane.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: envy me
The revolution will not be American

No, folks, there is no tearing (or tearing) away the eyes of this America from their idiot box, and they wouldn't dare risk their cell phone bars. Rome did not fall to the Romans. The Nazis were not defeated by Germans. The sole example of genuine popular uprising and destruction of government is the French Revolution, which soon fell to Napoleon, who did not abdicate to any Frenchman. Indeed, the Constitution itself was not an act of popular demand. The Second Revolutionaries of Washington, Paine and Hancock, et al met in secret, and spent years brokering the political deals to eclipse the Articles of Confederation; politicians overthrowing politicians in a new country's elimination rounds.

Pretty decent article.


I beleive that the current administration will proceed to do as they please regarding: torture, raping the economy, haliburton no-bid contracts and detention camps, rigged voting machines, questionable foreign policy (sending billions of dollars in foreign aid while americans are homeless/starved), and Americans will simply sit idly by and let it happen.

I can forsee a situation in the future where Americans are liberated from their illegal government by a foreign country simply because the American military force is already stretched very thin, with troops in Afghanistan, Iraq, soon-to-be Iran and they have already pissed off most of the world with their foreign policy.

If another superpower (eg. Russia) would engage the US for whatever reason and topple the corrupt government, would it really be a bad thing? Consider for a moment the above happened, causing minimal casualties and: a war crimes trial for every member of the administration, prison terms for EVERY member of parliament, congress, senate, trials for executives in control of mass media, which are the real weapons of mass destruction. Give back the country to the citizens, not corporate interests. Would it really be that bad of a thing?

Evidently some people have forgotten that we have nukes........doubtful Russia, China, or any other recognized government would even attempt a so-called (by liberati standards) "liberation" of the American people when faced with the prospect of their countryside being vaporized by the push of a button....... You silly liberals and your pipe dreams crack me up though.

Dream on.

 

[Polish3d]

Seriously the OP is ridiculous

 

[bamacre]

The US has already been taken over by a foreign power. Not foreign in race, nor region, but foreign in idealogy. The current inhabitants may not notice, but generations to come will. Our failure to fight for our freedom using megaphones and poster boards will only cause our future generations to do it with guns and IED's.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: bamacre
The US has already been taken over by a foreign power. Not foreign in race, nor region, but foreign in idealogy. The current inhabitants may not notice, but generations to come will. Our failure to fight for our freedom using megaphones and poster boards will only cause our future generations to do it with guns and IED's.

The "Great Society" was a "foreign" idealogy at the time it was implemented yet I don't seem to remember any armed revolution in response. Same with the imposition of the Federal income tax........but for some reason, I don't ever remember seeing the socialist liberati whining about those erosions of our freedom.