The Republican debate with moderator Donald Trump

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cybrsage

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Sorry, still wrong.

Birth Abroad Out-of-Wedlock to a U.S. Citizen Father – “New” Section 309(a)

Why did you reference this section.


Plus, depending on what narrative you subscribe to Obama's mother was married so the Out-of-Wedlock scenario doesn't apply.

Correct, which is why I also included the In Wedlock portion.

Thus, I am still correct.
 

Nemesis 1

Lifer
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This is an embarrassment to the Republicans candidates and party.

To their credit, many Republican leaders have said so and encouraged the candidates to boycott it.

Huntsman did the best, criticizing the event. Paul less so, and Romney did the right thing not going but pandered to Donald Trump making an excuse.

What a disgrace to our presidential elections this is. Any candidate who attends should be ashamed and punished by voters.

That means Newt Gingrich, one of the two who have accepted the invitation.

It's bad enough they already had the Heritage debate where reportedly all the questioners were the worst of the Republican party.

People like David Addington and Ed Meese and Paul Wolfowitz.

People who had terrible policies.

To me, that was even worse than Trump.

Paul less so . According to who ? You or mainsream media . I can get ya a utube clip if thats what it takes.
 

Craig234

Lifer
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Paul less so . According to who ? You or mainsream media . I can get ya a utube clip if thats what it takes.

Jon Huntsman made a strong, good statement against the degradation of the election by Donald Trump.

Ron Paul made his reason clear, but was not as strong in what he said as Huntsman.

Romney pretended he had no issue with Trump - typical Romney lying.
 

xBiffx

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Correct, which is why I also included the In Wedlock portion.

Thus, I am still correct.

Then read what you posted.

For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.

Obama's mother does not meet this requirement hence the need for both parents to be citizens for Obama to be an NBC if he were to have been born outside the US.
 

Balt

Lifer
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I would say the main purpose of this debate is so that Donald Trump can further inflate his already massive ego. I'd be surprised if he doesn't moderate in a way that allows him to get a lot of camera time. Or maybe he's going to help a favorite during the debate and see if he can get a spot as a VP nom.

Also for those of you suggesting that the Republican candidates can't get fair moderation anywhere else, I'd like to remind you there have been debates moderated by conservatives. Additionally, Newt "librul media" Gingrich himself was actually quite complimentary toward Wolf Blitzer's moderation of the debate hosted on CNN.

I have nothing against debates hosted by conservatives. I simply think Trump is a buffoon.
 

cybrsage

Lifer
Nov 17, 2011
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Then read what you posted.



Obama's mother does not meet this requirement hence the need for both parents to be citizens for Obama to be an NBC if he were to have been born outside the US.

Of course she does. While it is possible to file a case based on Obama being born when she was only 18, and therefor 5 years had not passed, the case would be lost. She lived 100% of her life in the US after she turned 14. The purpose of the law is to prevent there from being US Citizens whose parents and grandparents never lived in the US.

The SCOTUS would not even hear the case, as the lower courts would make the logical ruling.

Sorry to disappoint you.
 

cybrsage

Lifer
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Again, having no clue of the definition of troll. Don't you have some Walker bashing to get back to already?

He is the forum jester, everything he does it to make himself look foolish so people laugh at him. He is very good at it too...I smile every time I read one of his posts. Think about it, no one can be as foolish as he is without doing it on purpose. :)
 

xBiffx

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Aug 22, 2011
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Of course she does. While it is possible to file a case based on Obama being born when she was only 18, and therefor 5 years had not passed, the case would be lost. She lived 100% of her life in the US after she turned 14. The purpose of the law is to prevent there from being US Citizens whose parents and grandparents never lived in the US.

The SCOTUS would not even hear the case, as the lower courts would make the logical ruling.

Sorry to disappoint you.

Guess we can agree to disagree then. Courts would have to follow laws as written, regardless of how non-logical they might seem. This was the reason why the law was updated in the 80's. Applying the new law retroactively would not be legal, hence all the timelines in the current law.
 

xBiffx

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He is the forum jester, everything he does it to make himself look foolish so people laugh at him. He is very good at it too...I smile every time I read one of his posts. Think about it, no one can be as foolish as he is without doing it on purpose. :)

We can agree to agree on this one.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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Why is it a bad idea??

Trump is a birther

Birtherism = Racism

Nuff said.
 

dank69

Lifer
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Trump: Do you believe the long form birth certificate produced by Obama was a forgery?

Gingrich: Well, um, I think there are more important issues than that. For example...

Trump: Newt, you're fired!
 

cybrsage

Lifer
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Guess we can agree to disagree then. Courts would have to follow laws as written, regardless of how non-logical they might seem. This was the reason why the law was updated in the 80's. Applying the new law retroactively would not be legal, hence all the timelines in the current law.

Laws can be applied retroactively, provided they give greater benefit to those affected. The citizenship law is often written to expressly say this. I find it odd...it surprised me when I learned about it.

I suspect the court would be forced to decide between the spirit of the law and the letter of the law. In this case, they would be deciding between requiringthe possible and the impossible. I have no doubt they would rule for the possible and not rule to require the impossible.

Who knows, it did not make it that far anyway. All theoretical at this point. No point in not agreeing to disagree. :)
 

Balt

Lifer
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Trump: Do you believe the long form birth certificate produced by Obama was a forgery?

Gingrich: Well, um, I think there are more important issues than that. For example...

Trump: Newt, you're fired!

lol'd
 

xBiffx

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Birtherism = Racism

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cybrsage

Lifer
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Trump: Do you believe the long form birth certificate produced by Obama was a forgery?

Gingrich: Well, um, I think there are more important issues than that. For example...

Trump: Newt, you're fired!

I did laugh. Well played.
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
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This so called "debate" ( if it really happens) is sponsored by Spewsmax. Trump said if he didn't like the answers given by the candidates, he would consider running after his contract is up next june or july. Not this crap again.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
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This so called "debate" ( if it really happens) is sponsored by Spewsmax. Trump said if he didn't like the answers given by the candidates, he would consider running after his contract is up next june or july. Not this crap again.

One could probably run a small city with the power of his Ego.

It's actually an insult to the american public that the republican party has so little respect for the political process of electing a president.
 

xBiffx

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One could probably run a small city with the power of his Ego.

It's actually an insult to the american public that the republican party has so little respect for the political process of electing a president.

Again, where is the republican party in this debate? Trump != republican party.