Yeah I noticed the thing about SiS having a live 166/166 fsb/mem demo. That's cool, I agree that SiS would send out DDR 333 because that's probabley the big thing that 645 has over P4X. I'd expect ECS to have one ASAP, they obviously are planning on it because they're P4X solution is SDRAM based, they're probably saving the DDR market for they good buddy SiS's new 645.