The redistributionist behemoth

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sm625

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Despite how much easier it makes the conservative argument, nobody on the left has EVER argued for non-specific "big government".

That is because the definition of liberal is big government. They dont need to argue for it because they are it.
 

Jhhnn

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Basically loliberal policy makes the rich richer and makes the government stronger.

Obviously, you drank the flavr-aid. Reaganomics has made the rich richer, largely with tax policy, offshoring policy, anti-unionism, & relaxation of controls on the financial sector's flimflams.

The biggest player on the block is always going to have the leverage to redistribute wealth to whomever they want. And you better hope that's a government by and for the people, otherwise it's going to be a corporation by and for the board of directors. The problem we have today isn't big government, it's government largely unsupervised by voters bent by corporate spun reality. Our government can govern well, or it can govern badly, and the responsibility for that falls 100% on US. Blanket cries against "big" government, are quite frankly, just stupid.

Sad but true. Post WW2/ Pre-Reagan policy was the policy of the New Deal- big taxes on big money, strong estate taxes, strong financial controls, tariffs that limited offshoring possibilities for American capitalists, strong unions to keep money flowing from the top back to the bottom.

The collapse of the "Free Market Capitalistic" economy of the 1920's was the result of Republican policy, and an epiphany for the voters. It was so bad by 1932 that there was no room for denial as to what had happened and why. The people chose Democrats & FDR as their champions, and they delivered.

We flirted with that same kind of collapse in 2008, and only a complete reversal of the Bush Admin's non-interference policy & action by the FRB prevented it from happening all over again. The fact that it didn't do a complete faceplant leaves Righties with room for denial, something that George Will is a master of manipulating. He's right that govt has been manipulated by wealth- he just gets it wrong quite intentionally as to who got manipulated- It was Repubs, who've become the champions of the wealthy, the true Bush constituency.

It wasn't Liberal policy that created the housing bubble or the extreme inequality of today, at all, but Rather Republican policy culminating in the Bush Admin & the Repub Congress.