The Red Cross have just knocked at our door

shortylickens

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and ask if we could help towards the floods in Pakistan I said we would love to, but our garden hose only reaches the bottom of the lawn.
--

A guy goes to the doctor with hearing problems. "Can you describe the symptoms to me?" asked the doctor. "Yes. Homer is a fat yellow lazy bastard and Marge is a skinny bird with big blue hair."
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Just put a deposit down on a brand new Porsche and mentioned it on Facebook. I said "I can't wait for the new 911 to arrive!" Next thing I know 4000 Muslims have added me as a friend!
--

There's only one thing worse than shitting the bed: having 2 smear it around your girlfriend's arse so she thinks that it's her fault.
--


I put this here cuz two of them are political. And I get banned if I put them in OT.
If you want any more jokes, well, I cant fucking tell you where I got these cuz that would ban me too!
 

Craig234

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May 1, 2006
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and ask if we could help towards the floods in Pakistan I said we would love to, but our garden hose only reaches the bottom of the lawn.
--

A guy goes to the doctor with hearing problems. "Can you describe the symptoms to me?" asked the doctor. "Yes. Homer is a fat yellow lazy bastard and Marge is a skinny bird with big blue hair."
--

Just put a deposit down on a brand new Porsche and mentioned it on Facebook. I said "I can't wait for the new 911 to arrive!" Next thing I know 4000 Muslims have added me as a friend!
--

There's only one thing worse than shitting the bed: having 2 smear it around your girlfriend's arse so she thinks that it's her fault.
--


I put this here cuz two of them are political. And I get banned if I put them in OT.
If you want any more jokes, well, I cant fucking tell you where I got these cuz that would ban me too!

One of the things this 'humor' does is function as propaganda to spread lies.

'Oh, it's just a joke!'

Muslims were the target of 9/11. Osama bin Laden wanted to radicalize Muslims in the Middle East, and was unable to do so, with very little suport.

He knew one thing that might help do it is if the US were to invade a Muslim country - and 9/11 was such an attack that it would greatly pressure the US to do that.

This is a standard terrorism tactic - they can't beat the powers, but they can provoke them to overreaction against the public and create opposition that way.

The thing is, this makes Osama bin Laden the enemy of Muslims, and them his real target. Not only the Muslims directly killed in the attacks, who were 'collateral damage', but much more the Muslims in the nation(s) the US would attacked as he hoped, and the Muslims killed in the larger war he wanted to incite, as his view of the best way to deal with the West-Muslim relationship, and the Western incursions. He wanted to get many Muslims killed as a way to get yet more Muslims to be pressured to join his violent side.

Now, the 'joke' above spreads the lie that Muslims generally are the same as Osama bin Laden, and are the enemy of the US who want to kill the US.

This joke really serves the same purpose as 9/11 - telling a lie to create hate and conflict between the US and Muslims.

It just hides it's message behind a 'joke' about Porsches.

It's just a joke!

One that reinforces to many people the lack of understanding that Muslims were the real target of 9/11, and falsely encourages hate and conflict.

It's evil. 'It's just a joke!' No, it isn't. Unfortunately, such things actually influence many people's opinions, and reinforce that 'common understanding' that's a lie.

And that's just what propaganda is supposed to do. To get people to believe lies.

The people who are spreading the propaganda don't need to have any idea they're doing so. They're forwarding 'just a joke' that only says what everyone knows is right already. Right?
 

shortylickens

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Well, since I'm not a conspiracy nut, I actually believe many Muslims around the world do hate America and would like to hurt us.
And the attack on the Pentagon kills your theory, doesnt it?
 

BudAshes

Lifer
Jul 20, 2003
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and ask if we could help towards the floods in Pakistan I said we would love to, but our garden hose only reaches the bottom of the lawn.
--

A guy goes to the doctor with hearing problems. "Can you describe the symptoms to me?" asked the doctor. "Yes. Homer is a fat yellow lazy bastard and Marge is a skinny bird with big blue hair."
--

Just put a deposit down on a brand new Porsche and mentioned it on Facebook. I said "I can't wait for the new 911 to arrive!" Next thing I know 4000 Muslims have added me as a friend!
--

There's only one thing worse than shitting the bed: having 2 smear it around your girlfriend's arse so she thinks that it's her fault.
--


I put this here cuz two of them are political. And I get banned if I put them in OT.
If you want any more jokes, well, I cant fucking tell you where I got these cuz that would ban me too!

funny fail.
 

BudAshes

Lifer
Jul 20, 2003
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Well, since I'm not a conspiracy nut, I actually believe many Muslims around the world do hate America and would like to hurt us.
And the attack on the Pentagon kills your theory, doesnt it?

hey troll, what are you doing out form under your bridge?
 

werepossum

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Jul 10, 2006
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and ask if we could help towards the floods in Pakistan I said we would love to, but our garden hose only reaches the bottom of the lawn.
--

A guy goes to the doctor with hearing problems. "Can you describe the symptoms to me?" asked the doctor. "Yes. Homer is a fat yellow lazy bastard and Marge is a skinny bird with big blue hair."
--

Just put a deposit down on a brand new Porsche and mentioned it on Facebook. I said "I can't wait for the new 911 to arrive!" Next thing I know 4000 Muslims have added me as a friend!
--

There's only one thing worse than shitting the bed: having 2 smear it around your girlfriend's arse so she thinks that it's her fault.
--


I put this here cuz two of them are political. And I get banned if I put them in OT.
If you want any more jokes, well, I cant fucking tell you where I got these cuz that would ban me too!

I suppose I passed the humorless ideologue test, 'cause I laughed out loud. Thanks!
 

Corn

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Too bad the most amusing post in this thread was composed by Craig.....too bad the humor in his post was unintentional.
 

Balt

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Mar 12, 2000
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The Red Cross have just knocked at our door and ask if we could help towards the floods in Pakistan I said we would love to, but our garden hose only reaches the bottom of the lawn.

Terribly cruel joke and in very bad taste.



















Okay, I laughed. Sue me. :p
 

MotF Bane

No Lifer
Dec 22, 2006
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One of the things this 'humor' does is function as propaganda to spread lies.

'Oh, it's just a joke!'

Muslims were the target of 9/11. Osama bin Laden wanted to radicalize Muslims in the Middle East, and was unable to do so, with very little suport.

He knew one thing that might help do it is if the US were to invade a Muslim country - and 9/11 was such an attack that it would greatly pressure the US to do that.

This is a standard terrorism tactic - they can't beat the powers, but they can provoke them to overreaction against the public and create opposition that way.

The thing is, this makes Osama bin Laden the enemy of Muslims, and them his real target. Not only the Muslims directly killed in the attacks, who were 'collateral damage', but much more the Muslims in the nation(s) the US would attacked as he hoped, and the Muslims killed in the larger war he wanted to incite, as his view of the best way to deal with the West-Muslim relationship, and the Western incursions. He wanted to get many Muslims killed as a way to get yet more Muslims to be pressured to join his violent side.

Now, the 'joke' above spreads the lie that Muslims generally are the same as Osama bin Laden, and are the enemy of the US who want to kill the US.

This joke really serves the same purpose as 9/11 - telling a lie to create hate and conflict between the US and Muslims.

It just hides it's message behind a 'joke' about Porsches.

It's just a joke!

One that reinforces to many people the lack of understanding that Muslims were the real target of 9/11, and falsely encourages hate and conflict.

It's evil. 'It's just a joke!' No, it isn't. Unfortunately, such things actually influence many people's opinions, and reinforce that 'common understanding' that's a lie.

And that's just what propaganda is supposed to do. To get people to believe lies.

The people who are spreading the propaganda don't need to have any idea they're doing so. They're forwarding 'just a joke' that only says what everyone knows is right already. Right?

Holy shit dude. Laugh once in a while. It'll make things a lot better.
 

Barfo

Lifer
Jan 4, 2005
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One of the things this 'humor' does is function as propaganda to spread lies.

'Oh, it's just a joke!'

Muslims were the target of 9/11. Osama bin Laden wanted to radicalize Muslims in the Middle East, and was unable to do so, with very little suport.

He knew one thing that might help do it is if the US were to invade a Muslim country - and 9/11 was such an attack that it would greatly pressure the US to do that.

This is a standard terrorism tactic - they can't beat the powers, but they can provoke them to overreaction against the public and create opposition that way.

The thing is, this makes Osama bin Laden the enemy of Muslims, and them his real target. Not only the Muslims directly killed in the attacks, who were 'collateral damage', but much more the Muslims in the nation(s) the US would attacked as he hoped, and the Muslims killed in the larger war he wanted to incite, as his view of the best way to deal with the West-Muslim relationship, and the Western incursions. He wanted to get many Muslims killed as a way to get yet more Muslims to be pressured to join his violent side.

Now, the 'joke' above spreads the lie that Muslims generally are the same as Osama bin Laden, and are the enemy of the US who want to kill the US.

This joke really serves the same purpose as 9/11 - telling a lie to create hate and conflict between the US and Muslims.

It just hides it's message behind a 'joke' about Porsches.

It's just a joke!

One that reinforces to many people the lack of understanding that Muslims were the real target of 9/11, and falsely encourages hate and conflict.

It's evil. 'It's just a joke!' No, it isn't. Unfortunately, such things actually influence many people's opinions, and reinforce that 'common understanding' that's a lie.

And that's just what propaganda is supposed to do. To get people to believe lies.

The people who are spreading the propaganda don't need to have any idea they're doing so. They're forwarding 'just a joke' that only says what everyone knows is right already. Right?

sug2204_muslim.outrage.over.pope.benedict.jpg































I laughed at the 911 and flood jokes.
 

Double Trouble

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I chuckled a little, a solid "meh" on the overall humor level. A solid laugh on Craig's response though, only Craig would post a wall of drivel responding to a (mediocre) joke ;)
 

Nebor

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He knew one thing that might help do it is if the US were to invade a Muslim country - and 9/11 was such an attack that it would greatly pressure the US to do that.

Looks like he got more than he bargained for. We invaded TWO Muslim countries, with more to follow. Totally backfired on him.
 

Craig234

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May 1, 2006
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Looks like he got more than he bargained for. We invaded TWO Muslim countries, with more to follow. Totally backfired on him.

Did it backfire?

On the one hand, Al Queda is not now a popular group in the Middle East.

But in another way, it succeeded spectacularly. The US meddling in the middle east was largely as a function of our economic prosperity, using our military for 'influence'.

The US has made a lot of mistakes post-9/11 in large part attributed to it, and has lost trillions in wealth over the costs of our wars and increased 'national security', and is a lot less influential in the world in many ways - but most especially with a far more more hostile middle east. Middle' Easterners' approval of the US has *plummeted*.

In part over corrupt and mismanaged war policies in Iraq, in part of scandals from Abu Ghraib to mistreatment of prisoners (who were largely innocent caught up in a ridiculous 'pay for prisoners' program), in part just the nature of people resenting occupation and the problems like collateral vicilan damage it brings and more, Middle Easterners may not have embraced Al Queda, but the US has suffered in relations.

While right-wing politicians may like to get votes with lies about 'Saddam and al Queda', a secular government like Saddam's was bin Laden's enemy. What seems to have radicalized bin Laden more than anything else was that when Saddam, who had been backed by the US when he killed 'the right people', invaded Kuwait, bin Laden wanted to lead a Muslim army against Saddam and drive him out - not to have the western non-Muslims invade the Middle East, and he was denied. Osama may not have been able to defeat Saddam; we did.

Osama couldn't defeat Saddam without us - and we couldn't for political reasons have invaded Iraq in the full-scale war we did without 9/11.

A main goal of Osama's is for the Muslims in the Middle East to not have the west 'corrupting' them, through wealth, force, and so on. As he has seen happening as his home country of Saudi Arabia chose the US over him as it is closely tied with the US who protects its security, including things like US miitary bases in Saudi Arabia, now removed.

He has largely achieved what he'd want - a US weaker in wealth and reputation, with a far more skeptical middle east about the US.

You could argue the other side - with the US building the world's largest diplomatic base in Iraq for a permanent strategic presence from where it can attack others.

And Al Queda did lose a 'host nation', driven out of the Taliban's Afghanistan (though they seem to be returning to power now) and into the Pakistani region.

But I suspect Osama's view would be that that was already in the plans one way or another, and that 9/11 was a big setback.

For example, the US might face a lot more difficulty launching a war against Iran now that it would have if not for 9/11 and the other two wars.

That's because of everything from the world's lack of support for more US-driven middle eastern war, to our domestic opposition to the cost and more war.

I doubt bin Laden's plans really cared much about this though. He was just trying to build Muslim hate towards the US to increase his standing and recruitment.

And all reports I've seen suggest that Al Queda is far more powerful, with thousands more recruits directly caused by the US response to 9/11, than before 9/11.

The leadership of Al Queda except the top two has been killed, but there have been all kinds of people joining it seems around the world, where Al Queda is now a big 'brand'.

Before 9/11, bin Laden was a 'major global terrorist threat' - with operations like a bomb in a hotel, a bomb at an embassy, a bomb on a small US naval ship.

There were news stories, with IIRC casualties in the tens, and largely ignored here.

The 9/11 impact on the US has been at least thousands of times as large.

I don't think 'backfired' is the word for 9/11. Literally on 9/11, my position was, the one thing we should do is not overreact to this and hurt our own country.' Oops.

Backfired better describes the results of our own policies to 9/11.

Save234
 

Nebor

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You and PJIBBERJABBER need to investigate new hobbies.

For real. Though I do agree with Craig that we did a great job defeating Saddam where Osama couldn't, and that Al Queda is a larger and more easily targeted organization now than ever.

Osama has been heard praising the leadership of Iran for their defiant acts against the Western world, even going so far as to say that the United States would never attack Iran because we would face certain defeat. I think this is another great opportunity to prove him wrong.
 

shiner

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Jul 18, 2000
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Hahahaha....I love it. No, not the jokes....the whole:

OP - A Priest, a Rabbi and Woody Woodpecker walk into a bar


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