The real reason Saudi Arabia broke relations with Qatar

FIVR

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Quite a good article IMO.


https://www.ft.com/content/57aeba9c...egmentId=d8d3e364-5197-20eb-17cf-2437841d178a


edit: It displayed for me fine but now it won't. Managed to copy it, but it had pictures also. Oh well :/


Qatar falconry party: when the hunters became the hunted in Iraq


In the complicated landscape of the modern Middle East, the centuries-old tradition of Arab falconry is a high-stakes sport. Wealthy sheikhs have been willing to risk ambush, kidnapping and even missile strikes to pursue their passion.

Despite such risks, they have landed private jets and set elaborate camps in war-torn corners of the region and beyond. Using falcons worth as much as $100,000, they hunt down their most desired prey: the houbara bustard.

The bird, whose meat is seen by some as an aphrodisiac, was hunted to near extinction in its own Arabian peninsula. So the hunters seek it out in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

In December 2015, Qatari falconry enthusiasts ended up on the wrong end of the hunt. The ill-fated Qatari hunting party of 26 was captured in southern Iraq and held hostage by an Iranian-backed Shia militia for 16 months. A deal to release them this year became one of the triggers that led to this week’s stand-off between Doha and its Arab neighbours.

Regional officials familiar with the deal say the ransom, which cost Doha up to $1bn, stirred suspicions among Saudi Arabia and the UAE that Qatar was funding radical Islamist groups and their arch-rival, Iran. In one fell swoop, they say, Doha paid off blacklisted Iranian security officials, the regional Shia militias they support and a jihadi group in Syria accused by the west of being an al-Qaeda affiliate. The Qatari government said in a statement to the Financial Times that the ransom was much less, and was paid only to Baghdad to help secure the hostages’ release.

According to a person familiar with the group, the hunting party — nine of whom were from the al-Thani ruling family — knew they were taking a gamble. The trip was carefully co-ordinated with Iraq’s interior ministry, which is widely believed to be infiltrated by pro-Iran operatives.

As the kidnapping began, their Iraqi guards slipped away, according to one person in contact with the former hostages. Helicopters landed nearby, suggesting some Iranian or Iraqi complicity in the operation. According to this account, the hostages were held underground in Baghdad’s green zone, home to most foreign diplomatic missions (Iraqi militia leaders said the prisoners were held in Iran). The hostages received poor food and little medication, leaving them physically and mentally scarred, their teeth rotting on their return. “They don’t say much,” the person said. “They need psychological support.”

Qatari men pose with houbara bustards caught in a reserve in Abu Dhabi emirate © AFP This is not the first time Gulf hunters have been embroiled in regional conflict.

In the book Ghost Wars, journalist Steve Coll wrote that in February 1999, the CIA tracked Osama bin Laden down to a UAE royal’s hunting camp. They considered launching cruise missiles, but feared a diplomatic dispute should the Emirati end up dead too.

Gulf hunters are sometimes despised by locals, who see them as intruders allowed to take wildlife that is off-limits for them. Some Saudi hunting parties have come under fire from Baloch rebels in Pakistan. And in the Syrian desert, tribal sheikh Ayed al-Utayfi recalled an attack on Kuwaitis in 2007, when robbers took the hunters’ weapons, cars and money, tied them up and dumped them in the desert. The hunting is not only dangerous, but incredibly expensive. A party will send sport utility vehicles and camping gear ahead, while its falcons take private planes. The hunters sometimes use armoured vehicles in case of attacks and landmines.

If they fail to find the houbara, they can still hunt wild pigeons. “But the houbara is the biggest trophy, that is the biggest dream,” said one German falconer, who hunts with the Qatari falconry community, and asked not to be identified.

The experience allows a sheikh’s entourage to hark back to the days of their forefathers. They rise at dawn, tracking and hunting until sunset. Spotting the houbara in the desert scrub can take years of practice.

If the hunters are lucky, and houbara is on the menu, they boil it before grilling, to reduce its toughness. The broth is then served as a starter, and the spiced gamey meat is served with rice, and eaten around a campfire.

The German falconer said she had tried to secure a place in the doomed Iraqi trip, but was rejected.

With so much at stake, why do falconers keep at it?

“Falconry is the passion to train a wild bird to hunt prey in a team with you,” she said. “Hunting is not a sport. It is a passion.”
 
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alien42

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a link to an article that requires a subscription with zero commentary, really?
 

justoh

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Aren't you glad you pressed him for more info about the falcons.
 

Jhhnn

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I read it by googling "financial times qatar."

A group of Qatari falconers was taken hostage in southern Iraq by Shia militia & held 16 months until a ransom was paid.

Regional officials familiar with the deal say the ransom, which cost Doha up to $1bn, stirred suspicions among Saudi Arabia and the UAE that Qatar was funding radical Islamist groups and their arch-rival, Iran. In one fell swoop, they say, Doha paid off blacklisted Iranian security officials, the regional Shia militias they support and a jihadi group in Syria accused by the west of being an al-Qaeda affiliate. The Qatari government said in a statement to the Financial Times that the ransom was much less, and was paid only to Baghdad to help secure the hostages’ release.
 

FIVR

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Notably - They were held in the "Green Zone" in Baghdad... right under the nose of American military. The conditions they were held in were squalid and they likely suffered from malnutrition or even scurvy because apparently their teeth were rotting out and they were non-communicative and needed psychological help. They very well may have been tortured.


The price of the ransom is also notable (1 Billion $).
 

pauldun170

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http://nypost.com/2015/12/16/gunmen-abduct-group-of-qatari-falconry-hunters-in-southern-iraq/

BAGHDAD (AP) — After nearly a year and a half in captivity, Qatar on Friday secured the release of 26 hostages, including members of its ruling family, in what became possibly the region’s most complex and sensitive hostage negotiation deal in recent years.

Several people with knowledge of the talks and a person involved in the negotiations said the hostage deal was linked to one of the largest population transfers in Syria’s six-year-long civil war, and was delayed for several days due to an explosion one week ago that killed at least 130 people, most of them children and government supporters, waiting to be transferred.

The transfer of thousands of Syrian civilians was also tied to another deal involving 750 political prisoners to be released by the Syrian government.

The complexity of the talks highlights Qatar’s role as an experienced and shrewd facilitator in hostage negotiations — this time involving members of the Gulf Arab state’s ruling family.

It also raised allegations that the tiny energy-rich nation paid millions of dollars to an al-Qaida-linked group to facilitate the population transfer in Syria that led to the hostages’ release in Iraq.
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/04/21/iraq-hostages-qatar-royal-family/



https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20170421-qatari-hostages-freed-from-iraq/
reportedly cost the Qataris $90 million in ransoms.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39669501
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/21/middleeast/qatar-royal-hostages-iraq/index.html
Media reports have connected the fate of the hostages to a complex deal, brokered in part by the Qatari government, to evacuate four besieged towns in Syria.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/w...n-iraq-after-delays-in-syrian-population-swap
Qatari royals among 26 hostages freed in exchange for thousands of Syrians in besieged towns

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/w...n-iraq-after-delays-in-syrian-population-swap
Twenty-six Qataris, including members of the Gulf state’s ruling royal family and two Saudis, were freed on Friday after being kidnapped and held in Iraq for nearly a year and a half, Qatari officials said.

Qatar-based Al Jazeera television showed Qatar’s Emir Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani greeting the men with hugs as they arrived in Doha on Friday on a private jet from Baghdad.

Their release was a boost for tiny Qatar which has used its influence to free foreign hostages in war zones but was alarmed when 26 of its own citizens were seized by unidentified gunmen in 2015 while hunting in southern Iraq.

Their abduction in territory dominated by militias aligned with neighbouring Shi’ite power Iran led to long negotiations among Qatar, Iran and the Lebanese Shi’ite group Hezbollah, according to an Arab diplomat in Doha.

A Qatari official said the hostages’ release was linked to a major evacuation of Syrian civilians and fighters from four besieged towns completed on Friday.

The official said talks about the evacuations, involving Iranian officials and Syrian rebel group Ahrar al-Sham, were held in Qatar when Iran’s foreign minister visited on March 8.

The complexity of the talks and the many players involved highlights Qatar’s continued role as a mediator and a potential broker of deals in Syria’s six-year conflict.

In Riyadh, the Saudi foreign ministry said the two Saudi hostages landed there on a private jet late on Friday.

“They are all in good health and they all left the Iraqi capital this afternoon,” the ministry said, according to the Saudi state news agency SPA.

The group was kidnapped Dec. 16, 2015 from a desert hunting camp in southern Iraq by dozens of armed men in pickup trucks.

A Qatari royal and a Pakistani man were freed last year.

No one has claimed responsibility for the abduction of the hunters, who were seized near a Saudi border area dominated by Shi’ite militias who have accused Doha of meddling in Iraq’s affairs.

Some Iraqis, especially in the Shi’ite-majority south, are critical of Qatar’s stance in the Syrian civil war and accuse it of complicity in the rise of Sunni Islamist militants.

Qatar, a member of the US-led coalition fighting ISIL in Iraq and Syria, denies supporting extremist groups.

It had called on Iraq to take the lead in freeing the hostages, who had been granted permits by Baghdad to hunt in the area. Iraq’s interior ministry said the hunters had failed to heed government instructions to stay within secured areas.

Hunters from rich Gulf states travel to Iraq’s desert in the winter months to buy falcons and hunt the rare houbara bustard, a bird whose meat is highly prized.
 

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When blocked at a paysite. Highlight headline right click /Google Search and read away.
 

pauldun170

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lulz

Qatar will sign a deal to buy as many as 36 F-15 jets from the U.S. as the two countries navigate tensions over President Donald Trump’s backing for a Saudi-led coalition’s move to isolate the country for supporting terrorism.
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Congress last year approved a sale of as many as 72 F-15s in an agreement valued at as much as $21 billion, providing authorization for the deal completed Wednesday. But that was before Qatar’s neighbors, including Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates, severed diplomatic, trade and transport links last week in a move they said was aimed at isolating the country for its support of terrorist groups and Iran.

The F-15 sale highlights the complex position the Trump administration finds itself in, forced to balance its focus on fighting terrorism against regional rivalries between key allies. Qatar hosts the regional headquarters for U.S. Central Command, which includes a state-of-the-art air base the U.S. depends on to target Islamic State.
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...n-deal-for-u-s-f-15s-as-gulf-crisis-continues

Qatar version (F-15QA) might be identical to the F-15SA we sell to Saudi Arabia....
 
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UNCjigga

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I wonder if Uday and Qusay Trump have killed and ate the houbara yet. If not, I believe a diplomatic mission to save our airbase is in order...