The real enemy of unions and small biz: Monopolists

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yllus

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This piece is five pages long and kind of all over the place, but I've singled out a specific point that sounds like it could use some discussion: The idea that the much decreased push back against monopolies by legislators is an area where labour unions are sorely needed to help in.

Here's how I followed it in my head:

- Mergers/acquisitions naturally lead to job loss as duplication is eliminated (obvious)
- Monopolies have little reason to innovate, which is risky and costly, or work on reducing prices (obvious)
- Startups face worse odds scaling up against one 4 million dollar company than four 1 million dollar companies, another downside to mergers (makes sense)
- A 50/50 split between large industrial giants and small businesses sounds like a good balance; wonder what that balance is now?
- Even highly skilled and educated workers at Apple, Google and Intel could possibly benefit from organized leadership

The Washington Monthly - The Real Enemy of Unions

For 200 years, Americans used various forms of antimonopoly law—at the local, state, and federal levels—to disperse power, foster productive competition, and protect open markets. Americans used these laws, in essence, to extend the system of checks and balances into the political economy.

Then, beginning in the late 1970s, an odd coalition of the consumerist (and Democratic Socialist) left and laissez-faire right—led by such Chicago School stalwarts as Robert Bork—imposed a new “consumer welfare” test for anti-monopoly enforcement.

The revolutionary result, a generation later, is that the U.S. economy as a whole is, if anything, more concentrated today than during the age of John D. Rockefeller and J. P. Morgan. Back then, America’s citizens faced private corporate control over heavy industry, transport, and banking. Today, these sectors are often even more consolidated than a century ago.

And we also face private dominion over retail (the sale of eyeglasses, for instance, is dominated by the Italian firm Luxottica, which controls such chains as LensCrafters and Pearle Vision); farming (more than 90 percent of all soybeans grown in America contain genes patented by one company, Monsanto); and information (one company, Intel, still makes and sells some 90 percent of all semiconductors used in personal computers). And to complicate matters, unlike a century ago, many of today’s powers are based overseas.

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The simple fact is that almost every large merger is followed by significant cuts in staff. The Pfizer takeover of Wyeth in 2009, for instance, resulted in the destruction of 19,000 jobs. Mergers also reduce the impulse for big business to create new jobs. Lack of competition means bosses can increase revenue simply by charging more for less. Giant firms today already boast of record profits, even without running the risk of investing in new lines of business.

Mergers can also reduce the ability of smaller businesses to create new jobs. Not only does the fencing in of markets make it harder for up-and-coming entrepreneurs to launch new firms, it can prevent successful entrepreneurs from growing proven firms to scale.

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By the early 1970s, the American economy had settled into a balance. Roughly half the economy was controlled by 1,000 industrial giants. The other half was divided among some twelve million small enterprises, competing in open market systems.

Which means that the great middle class of twentieth-century America stood atop two foundations. One was freedom to organize the industrial workplace, to erect a “countervailing power” within a necessarily hierarchical governance structure. The other was freedom from organization, the freedom to be one’s own boss, the freedom to build up a business that—thanks to anti-monopoly law—was largely safe from predation.

Every American could choose the path that fit best. A citizen who wanted to be her own boss, or run his own family business, could count on robust anti-monopoly law to protect farm, factory, or store from predators wielding massed capital. Citizens who wanted the security of a weekly wage could hire themselves out to an industrial giant or government monopoly, confident that they were protected against economic exploitation and arbitrary rule by open market systems and robust labor law.

And until the rise of the socialistic New Left and the laissez-faire Chicago School crew, this great alliance of workers and proprietors, for all intents, controlled both major parties.

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Defending open markets may well prove one of the most effective ways to educate unorganized groups of workers of the need to support stronger unions. After all, even if Congress and the administration moved tomorrow to take on America’s many monopolies, few of these powers will go easily into the good night. Which means that in many cases, employees would be wise to work together to protect themselves now.

To understand the potential stakes, consider the Justice Department’s revelation last September that Google, Apple, Intel, and other tech giants had secretly colluded not to hire each other’s workers. The agreement, the DOJ said, had “eliminated a significant form of competition to attract highly skilled employees.”

The fact that some of the world’s biggest and richest firms openly conspired to drive down wages and to restrict the most basic freedoms of individual employees would be, one might think, of some use to organized labor. Here, after all, is a perfect story to illuminate the fact that even the smartest and best educated of Americans—PhD scientists and PhD engineers—sometimes need protection when their markets are enclosed, just like autoworkers and nurses and teachers.

Indeed, given that such concentration has begun to destroy the open market systems that have long helped to protect all sorts of white-collar professionals—ranging from book editors to advertising executives to doctors—a generalized attack on monopolization might prove to be a highly effective way to go on the offensive among groups of salaried employees who have, until now, viewed themselves as, somehow, immune to such rude treatment.
 

wuliheron

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Nothing new. What you've shown doesn't address why oligopolies and monopolies are common around the world or that the US has a large percentage of small businesses. Size does matter and on the national and international scale it matters a lot. No matter what business environment the government sets up it will always have its advantages and disadvantages.
 

wirednuts

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we have more people now then we need. technology is advanced enough that we dont need everyone working to sustain a good life. everyone knows this, and yet so many are still against socialism... its a weird thing...
 

matt0611

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we have more people now then we need. technology is advanced enough that we dont need everyone working to sustain a good life. everyone knows this, and yet so many are still against socialism... its a weird thing...

Umm, no, we don't have enough people to fulfill all of our wants and desires.
Not even close. Thats just a ridiculous statement (no offense).

I'd love a supercar, a personal jet and a personal yacht, yet the resources to build these are too scarce for me to afford them.

I'd love to have a personal chef, maid, financial planner, gardener, personal trainer etc But the labor to provide them at affordable costs to me is more needed elsewhere.

There is so much idle land to be worked by humans that isn't, theres metal to be mined to construct more hospitals, energy to found to provide people with electricity, lumber to be gotten to build the homeless's houses, food to be grown to feed the hungry, etc

Theres still so many untapped resources and still so many people that don't have things that they need or want, so we have a long way to go.
 
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matt0611

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He didn't say that. Read for comprehension.

Need or want, it doesn't really make a difference. Capitalism will provide for either much better.
Some people in the world hardly have anything, hence we could use more resources / labor.
I comprehended him just fine, thanks.
 

Steeplerot

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Need or want, it doesn't really make a difference. Capitalism will provide for either much better.
Some people in the world hardly have anything, hence we could use more resources / labor.
I comprehended him just fine, thanks.

More then enough food and resources available for all.

The profit motive is the current big holdback amd corrupter, capitalism is a very old outdated mode of economics from a far more barbaric era before even the electric lightbulb.

It has no method of technical adaption besides wealth concentration for a few.

Cotton gin and mega plantation slavery for example.
 
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Zebo

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Nothing wrong with capitalism you just need mild social undertones so shit like this does not happen.

Capitalism causes people to excel. Pure socialism excellence goes unrewarded so excellence/innovation is not practiced.

We do pretty good with those socialistic undertones so people can make good life
-Progressive taxation
-SBA loans
-Capital formation with investment banks & IPOs
-Almost Free Education to generate an intelligent diverse workforce and leaders of tomorrow
-etc

Could be better though
-HC costs are killing us and needs universal
-Capital needs at least same tax as W2 wage earners vs much much lower today
-Labor should enjoy more profit sharing
 
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charrison

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Some truth to the article, however there are no shortage of examples of a company using disruptive technology that brings giants to their knees.
 

Atreus21

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My question is:

Are people dissatisfied with Intel's products, or Lenscrafters' products?

Or prices?
 

wuliheron

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My question is:

Are people dissatisfied with Intel's products, or Lenscrafters' products?

Or prices?


That's not the only issue. For example, the government finally broke up Ma Bell on the theory that competition and private enterprise would encourage better service, products, and prices. However, the telecoms just merged and haven't really provided a lot of either better service, prices, or products. If they can't at least provide something better then the government should seriously consider whatever might provide the best paying jobs instead of merely funneling money into the hands of the wealthy.
 

theeedude

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My question is:

Are people dissatisfied with Intel's products, or Lenscrafters' products?

Or prices?

Lenscrafters are overpriced. I get my glasses from Zenni. Optometry is a racket in the US. Gotta get new prescription for contacts every year even if your vision doesn't change.
 

Atreus21

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That's not the only issue. For example, the government finally broke up Ma Bell on the theory that competition and private enterprise would encourage better service, products, and prices. However, the telecoms just merged and haven't really provided a lot of either better service, prices, or products. If they can't at least provide something better then the government should seriously consider whatever might provide the best paying jobs instead of merely funneling money into the hands of the wealthy.

If they can't provide something better, then another business should.
 

wuliheron

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If they can't provide something better, then another business should.


Should is for religion, morality, and Hollywood movies. In the real world you make the best of whatever situation you are in and go from there.
 

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- A 50/50 split between large industrial giants and small businesses sounds like a good balance; wonder what that balance is now?

Why do you think 50/50 would be a good balance? Why do you think there needs to be a balance? Who do you think should be responsible for determining and enforcing that balance?

For your information, the current balance in the US is 25/75 small business.



Oh, and the real enemy of small businesses is not big business - it's liberal academics and government bureaucrats who think they know more about businesses than the businesses do.
 

yllus

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Why do you think 50/50 would be a good balance? Why do you think there needs to be a balance? Who do you think should be responsible for determining and enforcing that balance?

For your information, the current balance in the US is 25/75 small business.

There's already an arbitrary balance being struck by current anti-monopoly laws, even if it's done at the minimum level by barring the last 2 giants in a particular sector from merging.

While there are undeniable advantages to scale, small businesses (that stay small or medium-sized) are worthy of protecting because, for one, it's arguable that all net job growth since the late 70s has been due to small businesses. Another reason: Small biz is much more prolific in creating new intellectual property. The case for a healthy mix is obvious to me.

If this indeed appears to be an issue that needs addressing, government agencies would be required to pick the gauntlet back up and play a more active role.

I couldn't say based off of a single story piece if this is something worth pursuing, but it certainly contains some interesting ideas.
 
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