The reactions of some out there: campus flag-banning, making the case for USA=Great Satan, and blaming the U.S.
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"We have such a diverse student body and emotions are so high right now. The idea was to keep from offending some of our students, and maybe the result was much to the contrary," Gaul said.
If it is offensive, GET THE FVCK OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This guy should be taken out back and the flag shoved up his sensitive ass. This pisses me off.
If it is offensive, GET THE FVCK OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This guy should be taken out back and the flag shoved up his sensitive ass. This pisses me off.
That is sad. The Lehigh University thing is just WRONG. I have a feeling that guy will soon lose his job.
In all those situation mentioned in the second article, the US was acting to preserve the freedom of another country. I do not even agree with going all those places, but I do agree with the idealism be hind them.
That last article is written by a moron who has been sucking too many exhaust fumes. This was not an act of judgement. This was an act of evil. If we want to get Biblical about it, Romans 13 (I think) calls on Christians to contain evil and beat it down (something like that)! This guy is just talking to hear himself talk. 500,000 Iraqi children? No, that is bull. I doubt 500,00 TOTAL died in Desert Storm. This guy has obviously been brainwashed by Iraq.
In all those situation mentioned in the second article, the US was acting to preserve the freedom of another country. I do not even agree with going all those places, but I do agree with the idealism be hind them.
That last article is written by a moron who has been sucking too many exhaust fumes. This was not an act of judgement. This was an act of evil. If we want to get Biblical about it, Romans 13 (I think) calls on Christians to contain evil and beat it down (something like that)! This guy is just talking to hear himself talk. 500,000 Iraqi children? No, that is bull. I doubt 500,00 TOTAL died in Desert Storm. This guy has obviously been brainwashed by Iraq.
WTF were they thinking at Lehigh, if someone is offended by the flag of our country then they should leave. That 3rd guy is a moron, Albright wouldn't say something like that, even if the fictitious death count was that high. I don't think that MTV and "filthy Jay Leno monologues" are the root of all evil. Ugh...
1st article - sad
The other two just confirm by belief that when I feel that I have seen the stupidest thing in the world that I will again be proven wrong.
rb56
The other two just confirm by belief that when I feel that I have seen the stupidest thing in the world that I will again be proven wrong.
rb56
Regarding the first article....
What a gutless loser. :| :| :| :| :|
If people are insulted by the American flag maybe they should not live in America!
What a gutless loser. :| :| :| :| :|
If people are insulted by the American flag maybe they should not live in America!
i think its called being pc (political correct)
but no, i don't agree with removing the flag in the time of crisis..this is the USA, not England or elsewhere
static911
but no, i don't agree with removing the flag in the time of crisis..this is the USA, not England or elsewhere
static911
PC my ass (no offense). Since when it is politically incorrect to show your support for the nation in which you live, especially during times of crises.
That jellyfish should be thrown back to sea.
That jellyfish should be thrown back to sea.
I have been here all weekend asking why my emails are ignored by this site concerning posting a Flag on the front page. No one gives a damm. What reason could one not want to fly the flag during this time of grief and WAR? Anand is a dick in my book. I have not flamed him until now. I will never forget his decison to keep his pay banners on page one and not fly the flag. There is NO defense. I should not have to ask. It should be there. I will never forget his silence.
hmmm
the third article, the guy has issues...
Let's remember the filthy sodomite gay parade last summer in New York.
what the heck is that???
crazy !
the third article, the guy has issues...
Let's remember the filthy sodomite gay parade last summer in New York.
what the heck is that???
crazy !
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<< ...concerning posting a Flag on the front page. No one gives a damm. What reason could one not want to fly the flag during this time of grief and WAR? Anand is a dick in my book. I have not flamed him until now. >>
Just out of curiousity, why did you choose my thread to begin flaming Anand? Just seemed like a good idea at the time?
Its my last post at this site. I am sorry to bring it up here but there seemed to be people here that would care...Man, I guess not.... CYA
<< Its my last post at this site. I am sorry to bring it up here but there seemed to be people here that would care...Man, I guess not.... CYA >>
Not everyone works during the weekend.
Maybe they don't want to disrupt the layout of their site. Why don't you go paint your hair and body red, white, and blue?
mastertech01
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You can bet if 500000 children died as a result of US sanctions it was because Saddam Hussein INSURED they died to try to make us look bad. Just as he used human shields to protect his buildings during the war. Saddam murders untold numbers of people and this dork tries to make the US look like bad guys.
I don't see the flag on tons of other big sites; are you emailing those websites, too?
<< I have been here all weekend asking why my emails are ignored by this site concerning posting a Flag on the front page. No one gives a damm. What reason could one not want to fly the flag during this time of grief and WAR? Anand is a dick in my book. I have not flamed him until now. I will never forget his decison to keep his pay banners on page one and not fly the flag. There is NO defense. I should not have to ask. It should be there. I will never forget his silence. >>
<< I have been here all weekend asking why my emails are ignored by this site concerning posting a Flag on the front page. No one gives a damm. What reason could one not want to fly the flag during this time of grief and WAR? Anand is a dick in my book. I have not flamed him until now. I will never forget his decison to keep his pay banners on page one and not fly the flag. There is NO defense. I should not have to ask. It should be there. I will never forget his silence. >>
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I see hundreds of flags in the form of Avatars on this site.. what does he have to do, paint the whole damned place?
Not to mention the Salvation Army banners, and all the important threads pinned to the top..
Not to mention the Salvation Army banners, and all the important threads pinned to the top..
Afronaut, did you not read these?
http://www.anandtech.com/news/shownews.html?i=3366&t=sn
http://www.anandtech.com/news/shownews.html?i=3367&t=sn
http://www.anandtech.com/news/shownews.html?i=3366&t=sn
http://www.anandtech.com/news/shownews.html?i=3367&t=sn
Check here
I see hundreds of flags in the form of Avatars on this site..
they are yours and mine not his
I don't see the flag on tons of other big sites; are you emailing those websites, too?
check the link
Not to mention the Salvation Army banners, and all the important threads pinned to the top..
This is the FORUM not the website. Yes I see he has the SA banner on the bottom of page one. I guess the money banners are more important to him. What other reason can there be... I out of here, delete my account. You guys defend him OK?
I see hundreds of flags in the form of Avatars on this site..
they are yours and mine not his
I don't see the flag on tons of other big sites; are you emailing those websites, too?
check the link
Not to mention the Salvation Army banners, and all the important threads pinned to the top..
This is the FORUM not the website. Yes I see he has the SA banner on the bottom of page one. I guess the money banners are more important to him. What other reason can there be... I out of here, delete my account. You guys defend him OK?
<< Gaul explained that John Smeaton, vice provost of student affairs, ordered flags removed so non-American students would not feel uncomfortable. >>
(from the 1st article)
WTH? The last time I checked, those students came to the USA to attend school on their own free will. We take OUR flag down for them? I don't think so.
sandorski
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I haven't read the articles, but I've heard of most of these things elsewhere.
Anyway, MO:
1) I've heard this happening also in the offices of some corporation whose name eludes me. They have essentially banned employees from displaying any kind of flag or other patriotic symbol. The reason is almost the same, not wanting to offend other people, which I agree is hella lame. I think the real reason has nothing to do with offending others, but is probably an attempt to keep the employees focussed on their work.
2) Using just the title from the link, but not having read the specifics of that particular article(please don't flame me if that author was an idiot), that statement is essentially correct. It is folly, IMO, to look at the US as some "White Knight, flawless and without reproach"(my quote). First consider who has been targeted by various international terrorist groups in the past. The vast majority of attacks have been on Israel, Europe, and the US. These acts are usually in response to an attack, but they are also in response to Imperialistic(remote establishment or support for the establishment of power structures friendly to the Imperialist) control. Because of this, the US and every country of the world can round up or kill every terrorist in the world, but if the policies of the US and some other countries don't change, more terrorists will rise up and take the place of the vanquished.
US Imperialism?
Though the US is not alone, Europe was and still is to an extent Imperialist, it's International policies are very similar to the policies that were the catalyst for the American Revolution. Certainly, the main issue of the American Revolution, taxation without representation with heavy emphasis on taxation, is not a part of US Imperialism, but US foreign policy is Imperialist at it's heart. A few examples:
a) Iran and the Shah. The US supported the Shah, not because he was a man of democratic philosophies, but simply because he was a supporter of the US. He was a cruel dictator that the People of Iran hated. Eventually the People of Iran were able to overthrow their puppet and establish a more Democratic form of government. To this day, Iranians and many other Third World nations are leary of the US, although I believe that the current freely elected Iranian government is much more friendlier to the US. Perhaps if US foreign policy was more of a mirror of it's rhetoric, that being pro-democracy/pro-freedom, then this current act may never had happened. Unfortunetly when it comes to US foreign policy, it seems that the non-Constitutionally protected institution of Capitalism is the driving force.
b) A more up to date and less Cold War related example, Columbia. Again, the US doesn't exact a monetary tax on Columbia, but it does require that the Columbian government cooperate with the US's "War on Drugs". This, IMO, is an example of the US forcing a foreign People into solving a clearly American "problem".
3) Might be true, but only because the citizens of evil nations are usually the last to know. Examples: Hitler's Germany, Soviet Union. This goes for my second point as well: In a Demoratic nation such as the US, it is vitally important that the citizenry remain aware of their Government's actions! The Citizens of Democratically elected governments *are* responsible for their Government's actions!---remember this
Anyway, MO:
1) I've heard this happening also in the offices of some corporation whose name eludes me. They have essentially banned employees from displaying any kind of flag or other patriotic symbol. The reason is almost the same, not wanting to offend other people, which I agree is hella lame. I think the real reason has nothing to do with offending others, but is probably an attempt to keep the employees focussed on their work.
2) Using just the title from the link, but not having read the specifics of that particular article(please don't flame me if that author was an idiot), that statement is essentially correct. It is folly, IMO, to look at the US as some "White Knight, flawless and without reproach"(my quote). First consider who has been targeted by various international terrorist groups in the past. The vast majority of attacks have been on Israel, Europe, and the US. These acts are usually in response to an attack, but they are also in response to Imperialistic(remote establishment or support for the establishment of power structures friendly to the Imperialist) control. Because of this, the US and every country of the world can round up or kill every terrorist in the world, but if the policies of the US and some other countries don't change, more terrorists will rise up and take the place of the vanquished.
US Imperialism?
Though the US is not alone, Europe was and still is to an extent Imperialist, it's International policies are very similar to the policies that were the catalyst for the American Revolution. Certainly, the main issue of the American Revolution, taxation without representation with heavy emphasis on taxation, is not a part of US Imperialism, but US foreign policy is Imperialist at it's heart. A few examples:
a) Iran and the Shah. The US supported the Shah, not because he was a man of democratic philosophies, but simply because he was a supporter of the US. He was a cruel dictator that the People of Iran hated. Eventually the People of Iran were able to overthrow their puppet and establish a more Democratic form of government. To this day, Iranians and many other Third World nations are leary of the US, although I believe that the current freely elected Iranian government is much more friendlier to the US. Perhaps if US foreign policy was more of a mirror of it's rhetoric, that being pro-democracy/pro-freedom, then this current act may never had happened. Unfortunetly when it comes to US foreign policy, it seems that the non-Constitutionally protected institution of Capitalism is the driving force.
b) A more up to date and less Cold War related example, Columbia. Again, the US doesn't exact a monetary tax on Columbia, but it does require that the Columbian government cooperate with the US's "War on Drugs". This, IMO, is an example of the US forcing a foreign People into solving a clearly American "problem".
3) Might be true, but only because the citizens of evil nations are usually the last to know. Examples: Hitler's Germany, Soviet Union. This goes for my second point as well: In a Demoratic nation such as the US, it is vitally important that the citizenry remain aware of their Government's actions! The Citizens of Democratically elected governments *are* responsible for their Government's actions!---remember this
Black Hats of the world, I challenge you to remove some trash from the net. Some of these people could use an electronic wake up call about the anger their little journalistic vomit sessions cause.
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