The problem with execution drugs lately, over shadowed by an even bigger problem

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davmat787

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If we're talking about execution, decapitation doesn't seem like it would be that problematic of an outcome.

Decapitation of a live human is actually much harder than we think, and it is quite a skill to master apparently. Prior to the Katana of the Samurais, a Gladius or Longsword would have to meet right between cervical vertebrae and still have the energy to go through.

This is why the weapon of choice on the battlefield to deliver the final blow was a short dagger with a pointy tip, that would be easily driven into the brain. This took much less energy of course.

I am NOT pro capital punishment thanks to the innocence project, but I see nothing wrong with a professional firing squad with half the rifles loaded with live rounds and half with blanks. Utah was the last state to all firing squads, had to stop about 15 years ago I think.

I bet they didn't botch any execution.
 
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Decapitation of a live human is actually much harder than we think, and it is quite a skill to master apparently. Prior to the Katana of the Samurais, a Gladius or Longsword would have to meet right between cervical vertebrae and still have the energy to go through.

This is why the weapon of choice on the battlefield to deliver the final blow was a short dagger with a pointy tip, that would be easily driven into the brain. This took much less energy of course.

I am NOT pro capital punishment thanks to the innocence project, but I see nothing wrong with a professional firing squad with half the rifles loaded with live rounds and half with blanks. Utah was the last state to all firing squads, had to stop about 15 years ago I think.

I bet they didn't botch any execution.


Nope.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Wilkerson

And apparently both Utah and Oklahoma still have death by firing squad with the last execution being in Utah in 2010.

Like you I had thought the practice ended 10 or 15 years ago.
 

davmat787

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Nope.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Wilkerson

And apparently both Utah and Oklahoma still have death by firing squad with the last execution being in Utah in 2010.

Like you I had thought the practice ended 10 or 15 years ago.

Interesting link, thanks. Perhaps the firing squad could improve by collectively using the Mozambique drill. Two to center mass and one to the forehead.

Instantaneous.

I am not pro capital punishment so I don't know why I am discussing how to improve it. Just find it odd that the process has been sanitized over the years not for the benefit of humane killing, but to make the public feel better about it.
 

Slew Foot

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wait a second........femoral artery???

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you guys understand what that is right........ that IS sick if it's real........ people use that.... when they are completely gone. like, hookers who have no veins, they use a big needle to hit that... it's completely sick.... they really inject these execution drugs this way??

Pretty sure they meant femoral vein. But yeah, thats a big vessel
 

cyclohexane

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it's never about reducing pain. Otherwise, we'd hook them up to a morphine drip, turn up the dose, and they'd die happy.

lol @ everyone arguing for "reducing pain" in lethal injections.
 

Moonbeam

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Here in Venezia, at the palace of the Dogi, in one of the rooms devoted to the administration of justice, in artwork in the cieling, is a panel of paintings in which,for the intimidation of prisoners, lady justice is depicted as a harsh and ineluctable force, conveying symbolical that the court will tolerate no compassion of feeling. Still, since the time of Casanova and somewhat earlier, torture for the extraction of confessions and the use of the tort ore aparati used therein had been abandoned. I believe that the Jensen of justice is innate and that a similar evolution as happened here in the renaissance, will happen in our time regarding capital punishment. The world evolves in the direction of Liberal thinking.