The President of Spokane NAACP is white? Update* NAACP is ok with it.

[tynopik]

She lied about her ethnic background.

How is her ethnic background relevant?

It's a very problematic question that is probably illegal in the first place.

Again, if you think you are whatever you claim you are, then explain to me how policies to promote minority owned businesses work? Can't anyone just say "I'm <insert group here>"?

Being trans-racial is more than simply saying "I'm <insert race>", it is who are day-to-day.

So to answer your question, yes, trans-racial people absolutely should be able to qualify as a minority-owned business.

 

[LegendKiller]

The difference is that Caitlyn never passed herself off as a women to seek employment. There is also the part about the son/brother. Caitlyn is brave for coming out freely and pushing gender issues. This lady may have wrapped herself in lies. It is strange though because changing race is not socially acceptable like trans-gender stuff, so you could say this lady is on the forefront. Really tough call here IMO.

Doesn't matter. She can identify with whatever group she mentally identifies with. Period.

 

[tynopik]

The difference is that Caitlyn never passed herself off as a women to seek employment..

You reveal your own ignorance on the matter. It wouldn't be 'passing herself off as a woman', she is fully and completely a woman. She can proudly mark 'female' on any application form without fear.

 

[LegendKiller]

You reveal your own ignorance on the matter. It wouldn't be 'passing herself off as a woman', she is fully and completely a woman. She can proudly mark 'female' on any application form without fear.

The irony of this situation and the mental gymnastics the liberals are doing is just awe inspiring.

 

[BoberFett]

If Bruce Jenner can call himself a woman and get moronic amounts of adoration and acclaim for being "brave" and "heroic" by the pc police, then this woman should be their hero also.

Let the liberals and pc police swallow the poison pill they have created. Anybody can identify themselves as being anything now and we all must accept it for fact. If a man can use a woman's bathroom because he identifies as a woman, then this woman can be naacp national president. She should be afforded all legal protection and affirmative action under law.

Anybody who disagrees is a bigot.

Well shit, I just realized I'm a black, disabled, transgender, bisexual woman who was born with male genitals.

That must qualify me for some federal money somehow.

 

[Subyman]

You reveal your own ignorance on the matter. It wouldn't be 'passing herself off as a woman', she is fully and completely a woman. She can proudly mark 'female' on any application form without fear.

You should calm down. I'm directly correlating these incidents, but I guess you missed that part and instead focused on one phrase.

 

[LegendKiller]

Well shit, I just realized I'm a black, disabled, transgender, bisexual woman who was born with male genitals.

That must qualify me for some federal money somehow.

Hey, as long as you mentally believe it, you are it! Nobody can tell you otherwise.

 

[Subyman]

Well shit, I just realized I'm a black, disabled, transgender, bisexual woman who was born with male genitals.

That must qualify me for some federal money somehow.

I identify with having 20 kids, where's my earned income and WIC benefits?

 

[LegendKiller]

I identify with having 20 kids, where's my earned income and WIC benefits?

If you mentally believe you have 20 kids, then you should get it.

We can just make this shit up on the fly now. That's what the pc police want. Everybody is special of they want to be!

 

[fskimospy]

Hey, as long as you mentally believe it, you are it! Nobody can tell you otherwise.

I'm glad you agree! You can identify as any race you want. That doesn't allow you to repeatedly lie to your employer without consequence.

Interestingly enough, "I can believe whatever I want regardless of reality" is the basis for the Hobby Lobby decision that conservatives were quite fond of. It's always interesting to see them abandon that when it comes to things they don't like.

 

[Jodell88]

Can you guys stay on topic?

As per what it has in the OP

. Her parents say her African-American "son" is actually her brother, who was adopted by the family.

Apparently she tried passing off her adopted brother as her son? That's what her parents are saying. Seems she really wanted to commit fraud rather than she identified as being black to me.

 

[LegendKiller]

I'm glad you agree! You can identify as any race you want. That doesn't allow you to repeatedly lie to your employer without consequence.

Interestingly enough, "I can believe whatever I want regardless of reality" is the basis for the Hobby Lobby decision that conservatives were quite fond of. It's always interesting to see them abandon that when it comes to things they don't like.

It isn't lying. They have to honor your beliefs. If you believe you are a woman, you are a woman. If you believe you are black, you are black. That's what we have been told the last two weeks.

 

[LegendKiller]

Can you guys stay on topic?

As per what it has in the OP


Apparently she tried passing off her adopted brother as her son? That's what her parents are saying. Seems she really wanted to commit fraud rather than she identified as being black to me.

Maybe she believes he is her son. Who are you to say she is wrong?

 

[PokerGuy]

How is her ethnic background relevant?

It's a very problematic question that is probably illegal in the first place.

Nonsense. This point keeps going over your head: whether the ethnicity is required or not is not relevant. The fact is that she lied about it is. If she had said her ethnicity was "Caucasian" or "white", they might very well have still hired her. It hasn't been shown that it was part of the decision making process, but we do know that she lied about it.

Being trans-racial is more than simply saying "I'm <insert race>", it is who are day-to-day.

There is no such thing as someone being "trans-racial", nor does your ethnic makeup change "day to day". That's just politically correct BS.

So to answer your question, yes, trans-racial people absolutely should be able to qualify as a minority-owned business.

Again, delusional. Since according to you anyone can claim to be of any ethnicity at any time, then everyone is by definition "trans racial", so everyone would then be eligible to qualify as "minority owned" business. That obviously is not the case.

 

[fskimospy]

It isn't lying. They have to honor your beliefs. If you believe you are a woman, you are a woman. If you believe you are black, you are black.

And all the other things she lied about? If you believe your adopted brother is your son, is he? (She claimed this too)

You may not be aware of all the things she lied about.

 

[LegendKiller]

Nonsense. This point keeps going over your head: whether the ethnicity is required or not is not relevant. The fact is that she lied about it is. If she had said her ethnicity was "Caucasian" or "white", they might very well have still hired her. It hasn't been shown that it was part of the decision making process, but we do know that she lied about it.



There is no such thing as someone being "trans-racial", nor does your ethnic makeup change "day to day". That's just politically correct BS.



Again, delusional. Since according to you anyone can claim to be of any ethnicity at any time, then everyone is by definition "trans racial", so everyone would then be eligible to qualify as "minority owned" business. That obviously is not the case.

If she mentally identifies as black you cannot tell her she isn't black.

Sure, just like anybody can say they are a woman and go into the women's bathroom.

 

[fskimospy]

Maybe she believes he is her son. Who are you to say she is wrong?

Why are you trying to compare social constructs like race, which are quite literally whatever we say they are, with biological facts like who gave birth to someone? This is not a good argument, especially after you complained about other people performing mental gymnastics.

 

[LegendKiller]

And all the other things she lied about? If you believe your adopted brother is your son, is he? (She claimed this too)

You may not be aware of all the things she lied about.

Did bruce Jenner lie about being a man when he won the olymics? We better strip him of his medal then.

 

[Blanky]

The irony of this situation and the mental gymnastics the liberals are doing is just awe inspiring.

It's delicious.

If a person's physical, genetic traits no longer make them black or not, and it is based only on their identity, we need somebody to put together a list of items that a person can adhere to when identifying themselves as black. Do they need to hit a certain score of black identity items to properly qualify? What does identifying as black mean?

 

[fskimospy]

Did bruce Jenner lie about being a man when he won the olymics? We better strip him of his medal then.

Wut.

 

[LegendKiller]

Why are you trying to compare social constructs like race, which are quite literally whatever we say they are, with biological facts like who gave birth to someone? This is not a good argument, especially after you complained about other people performing mental gymnastics.

It is biological fact that bruce Jenner is a man. Yet people like you say he is a woman because he identifies himself as such.

This woman is black if she mentally identifies as black. You are a racist to say otherwise.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Legal question for you: aren't there exceptions that are made for places like Hooters, where they can choose to only hire women as waitresses because that's what their business is centered around?

I'm not sure that would apply here, but could a case also be made in some circumstances that a certain national origin or experience was central to the job at hand and therefore a trait that could be hired on?

The exception is if the applicant's race, gender, etc. is a bona fide occupational qualification (e.g., Victoria's Secret can choose to hire only female lingerie models because being female is an essential part of the job). I know Hooters was sued for gender discrimination some years ago and, I believe, settled by agreeing to add some gender-neutral positions in each location. I'm not sure where that suit would have been ended up had it not settled. I would think the NAACP would say it's a bona fide occupational qualification that its leadership personnel be African-American but I honestly have no idea what the courts would say to that, since it's not clear to me why a non-black person couldn't be effective as an NAACP leader (in fact, it sounds like Rachel Dolezal was).

 

[boomerang]

If Bruce can decide to be Caitlyn, she can decide to be black.

That sums it up nicely. It's her decision and nobody has the right to question her.

If one wants to choose her race socially; that is fine.
To get some advantage by that choice though is deceiving and could potentially be illegal

Right after Elizabeth Warren (fauxcahontas) gets charged, eh?

 

[LegendKiller]

It's delicious.

If a person's physical, genetic traits no longer make them black or not, and it is based only on their identity, we need somebody to put together a list of items that a person can adhere to when identifying themselves as black. Do they need to hit a certain score of black identity items to properly qualify? What does identifying as black mean?

It can mean anything you want it to mean, because your viewpoints and perspectives are special and society needs to cater to them. We can't hurt your feelings.

That's why we have so many categories of sex now, at least according to the pc police.

 

[fskimospy]

It is biological fact that bruce Jenner is a man. Yet people like you say he is a woman because he identifies himself as such.

This woman is black if she mentally identifies as black. You are a racist to say otherwise.

You are confusing sex and gender identity; they are not the same thing. Sex is a biological trait. Gender is a social construct.