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"The Pianist" of Palestine

GreatBarracuda

Golden Member
Powerful piece. Israelis should realize that they can no longer hide behind the cloak of anti-semitism. They resemble their nemesis from half a century ago in so many ways that if historical evidence didn't exist, I'd say they're lying!

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"The Pianist" of Palestine

By OMAR BARGHOUTI

When I watched Oscar-winning film The Pianist I had three distinct, uneasy reactions. I was not particularly impressed by the film, from a purely artistic angle; I was horrified by the film's depiction of the dehumanization of Polish Jews and the impunity of the German occupiers; and I could not help but compare the Warsaw ghetto wall with Israel's much more ominous wall caging 3.5 million Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza in fragmented, sprawling prisons.

In the film, when German soldiers forced Jewish musicians to play for them at a checkpoint, I thought to myself: "that's one thing Israeli soldiers have not yet done to Palestinians." I spoke too soon, it seems. Israel's leading newspaper Ha'aretz reported last week that an Israeli human rights organization monitoring a daunting military roadblock near Nablus was able to videotape Israeli soldiers forcing a Palestinian violinist to play for them. The same organization confirmed that similar abuse had taken place months ago at another checkpoint near Jerusalem.

In typical Israeli whitewashing, the incident was dismissed by an army spokesperson as little more that "insensitivity," with no malicious intent to humiliate the Palestinians involved. And of course the usual mantra about soldiers having to "contend with a complex and dangerous reality" was again served as a ready, one-size-fits-all excuse. I wonder whether the same would be said or accepted in describing the original Nazi practice at the Warsaw ghetto gates in the 1940's.

Regrettably, the analogy between the two illegal occupations does not stop here. Many of the methods of collective and individual "punishment" meted out to Palestinian civilians at the hands of young, racist, often sadistic and ever impervious Israeli soldiers at the hundreds of checkpoints littering the occupied Palestinian territories are reminiscent of common Nazi practices against the Jews. Following a visit to the occupied Palestinian territories in 2003, Oona King, a Jewish member of the British parliament attested to this, writing: "The original founders of the Jewish state could surely not imagine the irony facing Israel today: in escaping the ashes of the Holocaust, they have incarcerated another people in a hell similar in its nature - though not its extent - to the Warsaw ghetto."

Even Tommy Lapid, Israel's justice minister and a Holocaust survivor himself, stirred a political storm last year when he told Israel radio that a picture of an elderly Palestinian woman searching in the debris for her medication had reminded him of his grandmother who died at Auschwitz. Furthermore, he commented on his army's wanton and indiscriminate destruction of Palestinian homes, businesses and farms in Gaza at the time, saying: "[If] we carry on like this, we will be expelled from the United Nations and those responsible will stand trial at The Hague."

Some of the war crimes that concern people like Lapid have been lately revealed in eyewitness accounts given by former soldiers, who could no longer reconcile whatever moral values they held with their complicity in the daily humiliation, abuse and physical harm of innocent civilians. Such crimes have become normalized in their minds as acceptable, even necessary, acts of "disciplining" the untamed natives, as a measure to maintain "security."

According to a recent report in the Israeli media, an army commander was accused of gratuitously beating up Palestinians at the notorious Hawwara checkpoint. Ironically, the most damning evidence presented against him was a videotape filmed by the army's education branch. In that particular episode, the senior officer at that roadblock, knowing that an army film crew was located nearby, and without any provocation, beat a Palestinian "flanked by his wife and children," punching him in the face, and "even kicked[him] in the lower part of his body," the report said.

A recent exhibit titled "Breaking the Silence," organized in Tel Aviv by a number of conscientious Israeli soldiers who served in occupied Hebron, exposed in photographs and objects more serious belligerence towrds defenseless Palestinians. Inspired by Jewish settlers' graffiti that included: "Arabs to the gas chambers"; "Arabs = an inferior race"; "Spill Arab blood"; and, of course, the ever so popular "Death to the Arabs," soldiers used a myriad of methods to make the lives of average Palestinians intolerable. One photograph showed a bumper sticker on a passing car, perhaps explaining the ultimate goal of such abuse: "Religious penitence provides strength to expel the Arabs." The exhibit's main curator described a particularly shocking policy of randomly spraying crowded Palestinian residential neighborhoods, like Abu Sneina, from heavy machine guns and grenade launchers for hours on end in response to any minor shooting of a few bullets from any house in the neighborhood on the Jewish colonies inside the city.

The Hebron horrors pale, however, in comparison to what Israeli army units have done in Gaza. In an unnerving interview with Ha'aretz in November last year, for instance, Liran Ron Furer, a staff sergeant (res.) in the Israeli army and graduate of an arts school, described the gradual transformation of every soldier to an "animal" when staffing a roadblock, irrespective of whatever values he may bring with him from home. From his perspective, those soldiers get infected with what he calls "checkpoint syndrome," a glaring symptom of which is acting violently towards Palestinians in "the most primal and impulsive manner, without fear of punishment ." "At the checkpoint," he explains, "young people have the chance to be masters and using force and violence becomes legitimate ."

Furer cites how his colleagues degraded and mercilessly beat a Palestinian dwarf just for fun; how they had a "souvenir picture" taken with bloodied, bound civilians whom they'd thrashed; how one soldier pissed on the head of a Palestinian man because the latter had "the nerve to smile" at a soldier; how another Palestinian was forced to stand on four legs and bark like a dog; and how yet another soldier asked Palestinians for cigarettes and when they refused "broke someone's hand" and "slashed their tires."

The most chilling of all the incidents was his own personal confession. "I ran toward [a group of Palestinians] and punched an Arab right in the face," he admitted. "Blood was trickling from his lip onto his chin. I led him up behind the Jeep and threw him in, his knees banged against the trunk and he landed inside." He then goes on to describe in gruesome details how he and his comrades stepped on the tightly handcuffed captive, dubbed "the Arab;" how they hit him until "he was bleeding and making a kind of puddle of blood and saliva;" how he "grabbed him by the hair and turned his head to the side," until he cried aloud, and how the soldiers then "stepped harder and harder on his back," to make him stop crying.

Furer then reveals that the company commander cheered them on: "Good work, tigers." And after they took their prey to their camp, the abuse continued in different forms. "All the other soldiers were waiting there to see what [my emphasis] we'd caught. When we came in with the Jeep, they whistled and applauded wildly." One of the soldiers, Furer said, "went up to him and kicked him in the stomach. The Arab doubled over and grunted, and we all laughed. It was funny ... I kicked him really hard in the ass and he flew forward just as I'd expected. They shouted and laughed ... and I felt happy. Our Arab was just a 16-year-old mentally retarded boy."

As savage as it is, checkpoint abuse is not unique in any sense. It fits perfectly well into the general picture of viewing the Palestinians as relative humans who are not entitled to the dignity and respect that full humans deserve. At the height of Israel's massive reoccupation of Palestinian cities in 2002, for example, soldiers used their knives to engrave the star of David on the arms of a number of detained Palestinian men and teenage boys. The haunting pictures of the victims were first shown on Arab satellite TV channels and eventually exposed on the internet.

In the same year, at al-Amari refugee camp, during a mass roundup of Palestinian males, teenagers and elderly included, Israeli troops inscribed identification numbers "on the foreheads and forearms of Palestinian detainees awaiting interrogation." The late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat compared the act to well known Nazi practices at concentration camps. Tommy Lapid was incensed, saying: "As a refugee from the Holocaust I find such an act insufferable." Nonetheless, Raanan Gissin, a spokesman for Israeli prime minister Ariel Sharon, was worried only about Israel's image being tarnished: "clearly it conflicts with the desire to convey a public relations message," he told Israel Army Radio. Parroting that line, the mainstream media in Israel, too, were far too concerned about the "public relations disaster" to express any abhorrence or protestation at the immorality of the act and the irony of it all.

Yoram Peri, a professor of politics and media at Tel Aviv University, sees PR as "a fundamental issue in Israeli life." "We do not think we do anything wrong," he clarifies in an interview with the Guardian, "but we think we explain ourselves badly and that the international media is anti-Semitic." Obsessed with how Israel is seen rather than with what it actually does, Israelis, according to Peri, are mostly worried that "we do not explain ourselves well. When we discuss the horrible things that happen in the West Bank, we don't talk about the issue but about how it will be seen."

Recognizing this prevailing cynicism, apathy and acquiescence among the majority of Israelis in the criminal oppression of the Palestinians, former Knesset member Shulamit Aloni pronounced in a recent interview with the Irish publication the Handstand that "gross insensitivity" was threatening a moral disintegration of Israeli society. Referring to the Germans during the Nazi rule, she added, "I am beginning to understand why a whole nation was able to say: 'We did not know.'"

I wonder when the time will come when a glamorous, award-winning director braves predictable intellectual terror and intimidation tactics to expose the venomous Israeli cocktail of racism and impunity by making a Palestinian version of "The Pianist."

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Omar Barghouti is an independent Palestinian political analyst. His article "9.11 Putting the Moment on Human Terms" was chosen among the "Best of 2002" by the Guardian. He can be reached at: jenna@palnet.com

Source: http://counterpunch.org/barghouti11292004.html
 
I don't remember the jews in germany attacking the nazis by blowing themselves up, nor the Germans willing to negotiate with the jews.

Not that there isn't some similarities in a sense, but it clearly isn't the same.
 
No one is saying that it is the same. But Israeli policies and the actions of (an increasing number of) its military personnel do resemble the Nazis in one way or another. Although I condemn the suicide bombings and the killing of innocent Israeli children and women, but didn't the Jews of Europe resist against the oppression of the Nazis in the ghettos? Stroll through some of the streets of Gaza, Jenin, Rafah ... they sure are ghettos and they are resisting.
 
Originally posted by: Siwy
Originally posted by: klah
Did German Jews in the 1930's hide bombs in musical instruments and use them to blow up restaurants?

http://nypost.com/news/worldnews/21001.htm

Just because the two situations are not precisely the same, it does not negate the similarities between Nazi Germany and State of Israel. This is called an analogy.

Thank you for elucidating the literary device for those who refuse to see the truth when it's in front of them.
 
The soldiers did not ask him to play. Mahsom Watch is who filmed the incident and backs up that claim.

Typical of jew haters to try to latch onto anything to spread the hate.
 
Originally posted by: GreatBarracuda

Even Tommy Lapid, Israel's justice minister and a Holocaust survivor himself, stirred a political storm last year when he told Israel radio that a picture of an elderly Palestinian woman searching in the debris for her medication had reminded him of his grandmother who died at Auschwitz.


ican't believe it, i almost started crying after reading that! 🙁

 
why is everything always compared to nazi germany? or the nazis themselves?
is this the "we ran out of every other analogy or plausible debate and have turned to this"?

 
Originally posted by: theblackbox
why is everything always compared to nazi germany? or the nazis themselves?
is this the "we ran out of every other analogy or plausible debate and have turned to this"?

it's done because it is very similar to the actions of the nazis! digging the star of david into the skin of palestinians with a knif, tattooing id numbers into the foreheads, what does that remind you of?


i don't recall any tragedies that occurred where they did things similar to what hte nazis did, if you do, please tell me and we'll begin making analogies to that!


is nazi germany too dirty to taint your mind with? maybe it will taint some of the things that israel has done and that's a no-no?
 
Are the Israeli's committing genocide on the Palestinians? Sending them to the Gas Chamber or putting them in concentration camps to let them die? Seriously I can sort of understand where he might be coming from but is there really nothing else to compare this to than the atrocities of the Nazi's? I really don't see how anything can compare to that in modern times and to even make such comparisons is rather perverted.
 
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: theblackbox
why is everything always compared to nazi germany? or the nazis themselves?
is this the "we ran out of every other analogy or plausible debate and have turned to this"?

it's done because it is very similar to the actions of the nazis! digging the star of david into the skin of palestinians with a knif, tattooing id numbers into the foreheads, what does that remind you of?


i don't recall any tragedies that occurred where they did things similar to what hte nazis did, if you do, please tell me and we'll begin making analogies to that!


is nazi germany too dirty to taint your mind with? maybe it will taint some of the things that israel has done and that's a no-no?

no, it's just a tiring comparison and it's used to describe everything these days.

atrocities need not be compared to other atrocities to show how bad they are. What does digging the star of david into someones skin and tatooing id numbers into someones forehead remind me of? It doesn't remind me of a country that packed a whole group of people into trains, sent them to internment camps, and began a wholesale program of genocide based on the hatred of one man.
I haven't seen many examples of palestinians being forced into showers where they are poisoned, or put into ovens and burned until they were ash. I have never seen an israeli camp where they imprison and starve palestinian civilians and do scientific research on them.

Taint my mind with nazi germany? don't be so juvenile. Comparing things to Nazi Germany is a poor way to make a point.

If israel or any country performs atrocities, show them for what they are, and let them come to light for how bad they are on their own. Don't diminish them by comparing them to Nazi Germany.

when israel can tout numbers like this:

deaths

concentration camps: 3 million
massacred: 1.3 millon
death by disease and malnutrition in ghettoes 800,000

then it's a good comparison.
 
All I have to say is that people who think Israel's actions are on par with those of Nazi Germany are nothing but utter and complete retards! :|
 
Originally posted by: SuperTool
West Bank is Israel's Lebensraum.

if thats the case, israel isn't very ambitious as nazi germany, which rapidly expanded into many other countries under that ideology.
 
we aren't comparing the actions of israelis to the actions of nazis using gas chambers

we are comparing the actions of israelis to the actions of nazis using ghettos!

the human attrocities didn't start with the concentration camp, it started with events such as krystal nocht, with the badges the jews were forced to wear, with the isolation they faced when their neighborhoods were cordoned off with barbed wire and they weren't allowed to leave


THAT is why we compare israel's actions today to nazi germany's actions of yesterday
 
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
we aren't comparing the actions of israelis to the actions of nazis using gas chambers

we are comparing the actions of israelis to the actions of nazis using ghettos!

the human attrocities didn't start with the concentration camp, it started with events such as krystal nocht, with the badges the jews were forced to wear, with the isolation they faced when their neighborhoods were cordoned off with barbed wire and they weren't allowed to leave


THAT is why we compare israel's actions today to nazi germany's actions of yesterday

oh, so you can selectively choose attrocities... we'll just ignore the rest.
 
Originally posted by: theblackbox
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
we aren't comparing the actions of israelis to the actions of nazis using gas chambers

we are comparing the actions of israelis to the actions of nazis using ghettos!

the human attrocities didn't start with the concentration camp, it started with events such as krystal nocht, with the badges the jews were forced to wear, with the isolation they faced when their neighborhoods were cordoned off with barbed wire and they weren't allowed to leave


THAT is why we compare israel's actions today to nazi germany's actions of yesterday

oh, so you can selectively choose attrocities... we'll just ignore the rest.

what are you talking about??? now you're not making any sense.

why can't we compare certain aspects? i have NEVER heard someone get riled up because we compare certain aspects, but not all aspects. in addition, my post was re-iterating the fact that the genocide attrocities didn't happen overnight, it was able ot happen because of the erosion of common decency with the aformentioned attrocities in my last post

please think before you post! i practice what i preach, and therefore revised this post before hitting reply, you really need to do the same because you made yourself look ridiculous
 
you can't compare just the same, but different. or maybe YOU can. i guess then it's fair to say clinton was just like hitler because he was in charge? comparing certain aspects of history while ignoring the facts is silly. there is nothing ridiculous about that.
 
Originally posted by: theblackbox
you can't compare just the same, but different. or maybe YOU can. i guess then it's fair to say clinton was just like hitler because he was in charge? comparing certain aspects of history while ignoring the facts is silly. there is nothing ridiculous about that.

Of course you can compare Clinton to Hitler, they were both great leaders and excellent speakers, but one was evil the other passably good 😉 Once again, this is called an analogy and is perfectly valid.
 
Originally posted by: theblackbox
you can't compare just the same, but different. or maybe YOU can. i guess then it's fair to say clinton was just like hitler because he was in charge? comparing certain aspects of history while ignoring the facts is silly. there is nothing ridiculous about that.

Not all aspects of the subjects have to be similar in order for the analogy to be made. Yes, you can pick and choose...that's an analogy by definition. Check Oxford, MW or what have you.

Change is not instant. I wouldn't be surprised if the comparison becomes "valid" by your definition in the years to come. After all, a mighty ocean is made up of drops of water.
 
Originally posted by: theblackbox
why is everything always compared to nazi germany? or the nazis themselves?
is this the "we ran out of every other analogy or plausible debate and have turned to this"?


What is Godwin's Law?

Godwin's Law is a natural law of Usenet named after Mike Godwin
(godwin@eff.org) concerning Usenet "discussions". It reads, according to
the Jargon File:

As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison
involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.

source: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/

I realize this doesn't explain it perfectly, as the article in question was not part of a usenet discussion, but it's the same idea.
 
Those defending these actions need to open their eyes. Israel doesn't need to send Palestinians into Gas Chambers to commit atrocities. If that were the case, Saddam would be innocent.
 
Originally posted by: theblackbox
you can't compare just the same, but different. or maybe YOU can. i guess then it's fair to say clinton was just like hitler because he was in charge? comparing certain aspects of history while ignoring the facts is silly. there is nothing ridiculous about that.

you're right, clinton WAS like hitler because they were both in charge of a nation

are you surprised at that??? thats a perfectly valid analogy, although it's weight is rather lacking
 
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