The people of Falluja appeal to the UN

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http://www.workers.org/ww/2004/falluja1104.php
Following are excerpts.

His Excellency Mr. Kofi Annan
Secretary General of the United Nations

New York

Falluja 14 October 2004

Your Excellency

It is very obvious that the American forces are committing crimes of genocide every day in Iraq. Now, while we are writing to Your Excellency, the American forces are committing these crimes in the city of Falluja.

The American warplanes are dropping their most powerful bombs on the civilians in the city, killing and injuring hundreds of innocent people. At the same time their tanks are attacking the city with heavy artillery. As you know, there is no military presence in the city.

There had been no actions taken by the Falluja resistance in recent weeks because the negotiations between representatives of the city and the Government were going well. In this atmosphere, the new bombardment by America has happened while the people of Falluja have been preparing themselves for the fast of Ramadan. Now many of them are trapped under the wreckage of their demolished houses, and nobody can help them while the attack continues.

On the night of the 13th October alone, American bombardment demolished 50 houses on top of their residents. Is this a genocidal crime or a lesson about the Amer i can democracy? It is obvious that the Amer icans are committing acts of terror against the people of Falluja for one reason only: their refusal to accept the Occupation.

Your Excellency and the whole world know that the Americans and their allies devastated our country under the pretext of the threat of WMD. Now, after all the destruction and the killing of thousand[s of] civilians, they have admitted that no weapons were found. But they have said nothing about all the crimes they committed.

Unfortunately everybody is now silent, and will not even dignify the murdered Iraqi civilians with words of condemnation. Are the Americans going to pay compensation as Iraq has been forced to do after the Gulf war?

We know that we are living in world of double standards. In Falluja, they have created a new vague target: AL ZARQAWI. This is a new pretext to justify their crimes, killing and daily bombardment of civilians.

Almost a year has elapsed since they created this new pretext, and whenever they destroy houses, mosques, restaurants, and kill children and women they said, "We have launched a successful operation against Al-Zarqawi." They will never say that they have killed him, because there is no such a person. And that means the killing of civilians and the daily genocide will continue.

The people of Falluja assure you that this person, if he exists, is not in Falluja and is probably not anywhere in Iraq. The people of Falluja have announced many times that any person who sees Al-Zarqawi should kill him.

Now everybody realizes that this man is just a hypothetical hero created by the Americans. At the same time the representative of Falluja, our tribal leader, has denounced on many occasions the kidnapping and killing of civilians, and we have no links to any groups committing such inhuman behaviour.

Excellency, we appeal to you and to all world leaders to exert the greatest pressure on the American administration to stop their crimes in Falluja and withdraw their army far away from the city.

The city was very quiet and peaceful when its people ran it. We didn't witness any disorder in the city. The civil administration was going well given its limited recourses. We simply didn't welcome the occupation forces. This is our right according to the UN Charter, international law and the norms of humanity...

It is very urgent that your Excellency, along with the world leaders, intervenes in a speedy manner to prevent a new massacre.

We have tried to reach your representatives in Iraq, so as to ask them to be more active in this regard, but as you know they are living in the Green Zone where we cannot contact them. We want the UN to be involved in the situation in Falluja so as to avoid a new massacre.

We have tried to reach you through different channels and by asking our friends to convey this letter to your office in New York or Geneva with the hope that it will reach you. At the same time we appeal to you to urge the UN agencies in Iraq to take an active role in protecting civilians and preventing the new massacre which the Americans and the puppet government are planning to start soon in Falluja as well as many parts of our country.


Best regards.

Kassim Abdullsattar al-Jumaily
President
The Study Center of Human Rights & Democracy


On behalf of the people of Falluja & for:

Al-Fallujah Shura Council

The Bar Association

The Teacher Union

Council of Tribes Leaders

The House of Fatwa & Religious Education


Reprinted from the Nov. 4, 2004, issue of Workers World newspaper

Nice to know we've won their hearts and minds. They're so glad to see us they want the UN to force us to stop attacking and killing them. Don't they know we're winning their hearts and minds? The terrorists and the liberals must surely be at work here. Surely these people aren't capable of thinking for themselves. Pres. Bush and the ideologues know what's best for the Iraqis.
 

Pliablemoose

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From the "about us" portion of your website link, conjur:

What is our basic view? We're for socialism. We think that ownership of the tremendous productive wealth built up by hundreds of millions of workers can't remain in the hands of a privileged few.

:thumbsup:

No justice, no peace...
 

ElFenix

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you read socialist press? :laugh:


...sorry...
 

T2T III

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
From the "about us" portion of your website link, conjur:

What is our basic view? We're for socialism. We think that ownership of the tremendous productive wealth built up by hundreds of millions of workers can't remain in the hands of a privileged few.

:thumbsup:

No justice, no peace...

Additionally,

We don't fit Fox News's caricatures of us. We're independent Marxists who respect the struggles for self-determination and progress of oppressed nations. We try to understand their problems in a world dominated by Western imperialism. We don't jump on the bandwagon when Third World leaders are demonized. Our goal is solidarity of all the workers and oppressed against this criminal imperialist system.

:roll: :roll:


 

dahunan

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Fvck those Iraqis and The UN

They all are attacking us and hate us for our freedoms.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
From the "about us" portion of your website link, conjur:
[ off-topic crap omitted ]
If you have nothing intelligent to say about the OP, don't. Your constant mindless bleating is tiresome.
 

T2T III

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Fvck those Iraqis and The UN

They all are attacking us and hate us for our freedoms.

I wonder about the backing of the individual who wrote the letter to the UN? Was this person one of the insurgents writing to the UN from one of the mosques?

Puh-leaze.

Send him back a package with a tracking device in it so we can pinpoint the bombing in Falluja a bit more accurately.

:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

 

Forsythe

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
From the "about us" portion of your website link, conjur:

What is our basic view? We're for socialism. We think that ownership of the tremendous productive wealth built up by hundreds of millions of workers can't remain in the hands of a privileged few.

:thumbsup:

No justice, no peace...

Heh, talk about being indoctrinaed...
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: conjur
http://www.workers.org/ww/2004/falluja1104.php
Following are excerpts.

His Excellency Mr. Kofi Annan
Secretary General of the United Nations

New York

Falluja 14 October 2004

Your Excellency

It is very obvious that the American forces are committing crimes of genocide every day in Iraq. Now, while we are writing to Your Excellency, the American forces are committing these crimes in the city of Falluja.

The American warplanes are dropping their most powerful bombs on the civilians in the city, killing and injuring hundreds of innocent people. At the same time their tanks are attacking the city with heavy artillery. As you know, there is no military presence in the city.

There had been no actions taken by the Falluja resistance in recent weeks because the negotiations between representatives of the city and the Government were going well. In this atmosphere, the new bombardment by America has happened while the people of Falluja have been preparing themselves for the fast of Ramadan. Now many of them are trapped under the wreckage of their demolished houses, and nobody can help them while the attack continues.

On the night of the 13th October alone, American bombardment demolished 50 houses on top of their residents. Is this a genocidal crime or a lesson about the Amer i can democracy? It is obvious that the Amer icans are committing acts of terror against the people of Falluja for one reason only: their refusal to accept the Occupation.

Your Excellency and the whole world know that the Americans and their allies devastated our country under the pretext of the threat of WMD. Now, after all the destruction and the killing of thousand[s of] civilians, they have admitted that no weapons were found. But they have said nothing about all the crimes they committed.

Unfortunately everybody is now silent, and will not even dignify the murdered Iraqi civilians with words of condemnation. Are the Americans going to pay compensation as Iraq has been forced to do after the Gulf war?

We know that we are living in world of double standards. In Falluja, they have created a new vague target: AL ZARQAWI. This is a new pretext to justify their crimes, killing and daily bombardment of civilians.

Almost a year has elapsed since they created this new pretext, and whenever they destroy houses, mosques, restaurants, and kill children and women they said, "We have launched a successful operation against Al-Zarqawi." They will never say that they have killed him, because there is no such a person. And that means the killing of civilians and the daily genocide will continue.

The people of Falluja assure you that this person, if he exists, is not in Falluja and is probably not anywhere in Iraq. The people of Falluja have announced many times that any person who sees Al-Zarqawi should kill him.

Now everybody realizes that this man is just a hypothetical hero created by the Americans. At the same time the representative of Falluja, our tribal leader, has denounced on many occasions the kidnapping and killing of civilians, and we have no links to any groups committing such inhuman behaviour.

Excellency, we appeal to you and to all world leaders to exert the greatest pressure on the American administration to stop their crimes in Falluja and withdraw their army far away from the city.

The city was very quiet and peaceful when its people ran it. We didn't witness any disorder in the city. The civil administration was going well given its limited recourses. We simply didn't welcome the occupation forces. This is our right according to the UN Charter, international law and the norms of humanity...

It is very urgent that your Excellency, along with the world leaders, intervenes in a speedy manner to prevent a new massacre.

We have tried to reach your representatives in Iraq, so as to ask them to be more active in this regard, but as you know they are living in the Green Zone where we cannot contact them. We want the UN to be involved in the situation in Falluja so as to avoid a new massacre.

We have tried to reach you through different channels and by asking our friends to convey this letter to your office in New York or Geneva with the hope that it will reach you. At the same time we appeal to you to urge the UN agencies in Iraq to take an active role in protecting civilians and preventing the new massacre which the Americans and the puppet government are planning to start soon in Falluja as well as many parts of our country.


Best regards.

Kassim Abdullsattar al-Jumaily
President
The Study Center of Human Rights & Democracy


On behalf of the people of Falluja & for:

Al-Fallujah Shura Council

The Bar Association

The Teacher Union

Council of Tribes Leaders

The House of Fatwa & Religious Education


Reprinted from the Nov. 4, 2004, issue of Workers World newspaper

Nice to know we've won their hearts and minds. They're so glad to see us they want the UN to force us to stop attacking and killing them. Don't they know we're winning their hearts and minds? The terrorists and the liberals must surely be at work here. Surely these people aren't capable of thinking for themselves. Pres. Bush and the ideologues know what's best for the Iraqis.
At least Bush is consistent. We will mow down the forests to save them. We will destroy the enivronment to save it. We will obliterate the Iraqis to liberate them.
 

Forsythe

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Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
Originally posted by: dahunan
Fvck those Iraqis and The UN

They all are attacking us and hate us for our freedoms.

I wonder about the backing of the individual who wrote the letter to the UN? Was this person one of the insurgents writing to the UN from one of the mosques?

Puh-leaze.

Send him back a package with a tracking device in it so we can pinpoint the bombing in Falluja a bit more accurately.

:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Yes we clearly see who you voted for. And i'm sad to say you fit the perfect stereotype by what you just posted. How about investigating or something?
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
At least Bush is consistent. We will mow down the forests to save them. We will destroy the enivronment to save it. We will obliterate the Iraqis to liberate them.

thanks for quoting the whole thing. no :cookie: for you
 

Pliablemoose

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
From the "about us" portion of your website link, conjur:
[ off-topic crap omitted ]
If you have nothing intelligent to say about the OP, don't. Your constant mindless bleating is tiresome.


Sorry,seems the bleating was the original post..

Or don't you thing that the credibility of the website is an issue?

I have a bunch of Newsmax & lunatic right wing web sites I can link to all day...

 

T2T III

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Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
Originally posted by: dahunan
Fvck those Iraqis and The UN

They all are attacking us and hate us for our freedoms.

I wonder about the backing of the individual who wrote the letter to the UN? Was this person one of the insurgents writing to the UN from one of the mosques?

Puh-leaze.

Send him back a package with a tracking device in it so we can pinpoint the bombing in Falluja a bit more accurately.

:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Yes we clearly see who you voted for. And i'm sad to say you fit the perfect stereotype by what you just posted. How about investigating or something?

Sorry, that in your view, I fit into a "mold" of a stereotypical Conservative. Well, maybe, I do. Just feel frustrated and want to see change. War is painful, but, it can't always be avoided.

:)

 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
At least Bush is consistent. We will mow down the forests to save them. We will destroy the enivronment to save it. We will obliterate the Iraqis to liberate them.
thanks for quoting the whole thing. no :cookie: for you
Thanks for another off-topic diversion. I quoted the whole thing to help offset the noise added by the Bush apologists. If you don't like it, I'll pretend to feel bad.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
From the "about us" portion of your website link, conjur:
[ off-topic crap omitted ]
If you have nothing intelligent to say about the OP, don't. Your constant mindless bleating is tiresome.
Sorry,seems the bleating was the original post..

Or don't you thing that the credibility of the website is an issue?

I have a bunch of Newsmax & lunatic right wing web sites I can link to all day...
Can you address the content or not? Never mind, it's a rhetorical question. You ably demonstrate your inability to do anything except attack and divert.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
At least Bush is consistent. We will mow down the forests to save them. We will destroy the enivronment to save it. We will obliterate the Iraqis to liberate them.
thanks for quoting the whole thing. no :cookie: for you
Thanks for another off-topic diversion. I quoted the whole thing to help offset the noise added by the Bush apologists. If you don't like it, I'll pretend to feel bad.

i dunno if you've checked, but this is an internet message board, and everything is either off topic or some sort of circle jerk.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Can you address the content or not? Never mind, it's a rhetorical question. You ably demonstrate your inability to do anything except attack and divert.

why address something that is most likely contrived?
 

alchemize

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It is very obvious that the American forces are committing crimes of genocide every day in Iraq. Now, while we are writing to Your Excellency, the American forces are committing these crimes in the city of Falluja.

The American warplanes are dropping their most powerful bombs on the civilians in the city, killing and injuring hundreds of innocent people. At the same time their tanks are attacking the city with heavy artillery. As you know, there is no military presence in the city.
I got that far and quit.

Just curious. If there is nothing going on in fallujah - then why are we just blowing up that city? Just makes great target practice? All those guys running around with RPG's and crashing suicide trucks into convoys are Mossad operatives?


How low can conjur go? I don't think we've seen a bottom yet! I mean, he hasn't started posting from informationclearinghouse.com yet...
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
From the "about us" portion of your website link, conjur:
[ off-topic crap omitted ]
If you have nothing intelligent to say about the OP, don't. Your constant mindless bleating is tiresome.

I'm sorry? What exactly were you adding in this thread? Oh, that's right, nothing! I think questioning the source is much more intelligent than you telling people they bleat 47 times a day. I realize having an original thought for you is a chore, so please take some time to rest and try again tommorrow.
 

Forsythe

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Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
Originally posted by: dahunan
Fvck those Iraqis and The UN

They all are attacking us and hate us for our freedoms.

I wonder about the backing of the individual who wrote the letter to the UN? Was this person one of the insurgents writing to the UN from one of the mosques?

Puh-leaze.

Send him back a package with a tracking device in it so we can pinpoint the bombing in Falluja a bit more accurately.

:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Yes we clearly see who you voted for. And i'm sad to say you fit the perfect stereotype by what you just posted. How about investigating or something?

Sorry, that in your view, I fit into a "mold" of a stereotypical Conservative. Well, maybe, I do. Just feel frustrated and want to see change. War is painful, but, it can't always be avoided.

:)

It's not my conservative stereotype you fit.
Change is good, and i can see why you are frustrated, so i understand why you wrote that.

Correct, war can sometimes not be avoided, but this was not one of them. If you ask me, this was one of the worst choices.
 

jtusa

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
From the "about us" portion of your website link, conjur:
[ off-topic crap omitted ]
If you have nothing intelligent to say about the OP, don't. Your constant mindless bleating is tiresome.

I'm sorry? What exactly were you adding in this thread? Oh, that's right, nothing! I think questioning the source is much more intelligent than you telling people they bleat 47 times a day. I realize having an original thought for you is a chore, so please take some time to rest and try again tommorrow.

You better hushup before he calls you a neocon! Hahaha. Sorry, I'm being as productive as Bowfinger so I'll shutup now. ;)
 

Forsythe

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Originally posted by: alchemize
It is very obvious that the American forces are committing crimes of genocide every day in Iraq. Now, while we are writing to Your Excellency, the American forces are committing these crimes in the city of Falluja.

The American warplanes are dropping their most powerful bombs on the civilians in the city, killing and injuring hundreds of innocent people. At the same time their tanks are attacking the city with heavy artillery. As you know, there is no military presence in the city.
I got that far and quit.

Just curious. If there is nothing going on in fallujah - then why are we just blowing up that city? Just makes great target practice? All those guys running around with RPG's and crashing suicide trucks into convoys are Mossad operatives?


How low can conjur go? I don't think we've seen a bottom yet! I mean, he hasn't started posting from informationclearinghouse.com yet...

Maybe they are just attacking you because they see you as unrighteous invaders killing children and families.

I'm not even gonna think about commenting on the last part of the post...
 

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
From the "about us" portion of your website link, conjur:
[ off-topic crap omitted ]
If you have nothing intelligent to say about the OP, don't. Your constant mindless bleating is tiresome.

:thumbsup:
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger

If you have nothing intelligent to say about the OP, don't. Your constant mindless bleating is tiresome.

The OP is bunkum....why comment on the substance when that which provides the material is highly biased?...it is a waste of time and effort...what is funny is conjur slammed rip et co. for using equally garbage sources and now that his white knight was slain he is delving into the depths of tabloid-esque "news" reporting.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Can you address the content or not? Never mind, it's a rhetorical question. You ably demonstrate your inability to do anything except attack and divert.
why address something that is most likely contrived?
Whether it is contrived or not, the scenario it describes is real. Our mission was "accomplished", yet we continue to bomb Iraqis cities. We continue to kill innocent Iraqis by the truck load. I can understand why Moose and others want to ignore this unhappy fact, but they should find other forms of amusement besides incessant thread crapping.