The other prisoners

[BaliBabyDoc]

Guardian . . . left of center but appears consistent with Taguba . . . and the reluctance to release everything (excerpts)

The scandal at Abu Ghraib prison was first exposed not by a digital photograph but by a letter. In December 2003, a woman prisoner inside the jail west of Baghdad managed to smuggle out a note. Its contents were so shocking that, at first, Amal Kadham Swadi and the other Iraqi women lawyers who had been trying to gain access to the US jail found them hard to believe.

The note claimed that US guards had been raping women detainees, who were, and are, in a small minority at Abu Ghraib. Several of the women were now pregnant, it added. The women had been forced to strip naked in front of men, it said. The note urged the Iraqi resistance to bomb the jail to spare the women further shame.
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Astonishingly, the secret inquiry launched by the US military in January, headed by Major General Antonio Taguba, has confirmed that the letter smuggled out of Abu Ghraib by a woman known only as "Noor" was entirely and devastatingly accurate.
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But among the 1,800 digital photographs taken by US guards inside Abu Ghraib there are, according to Taguba's report, images of a US military policeman "having sex" with an Iraqi woman.

Taguba discovered that guards have also videotaped and photographed naked female detainees. The Bush administration has refused to release other photographs of Iraqi women forced at gunpoint to bare their breasts (although it has shown them to Congress) - ostensibly to prevent attacks on US soldiers in Iraq, but in reality, one suspects, to prevent further domestic embarrassment.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

I'd like to know how many photos are of "prisoners" or "detainees" there are and then like to know how many pictures out of these "1800 digital photographs" are of just our soldiers engaging in sexual acts amongst themselves. I haven't heard much reported on the "non-abuse" photos that are lumped into this Abuse issue. Maybe we should start a thread about those if it's ever reported.

It's a shame that this took place, we have and are working to correct the situation and I hope that all of those who took part in this are punished appropriately. Utterly disgusting.

CkG

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
I'd like to know how many photos are of "prisoners" or "detainees" there are and then like to know how many pictures out of these "1800 digital photographs" are of just our soldiers engaging in sexual acts amongst themselves. I haven't heard much reported on the "non-abuse" photos that are lumped into this Abuse issue. Maybe we should start a thread about those if it's ever reported.

It's a shame that this took place, we have and are working to correct the situation and I hope that all of those who took part in this are punished appropriately. Utterly disgusting.

CkG

Doesn't matter if there's only 1 out of 1800. That's 1 too many.

And I still can't believe no one higher up is claiming responsibility and be willing to step down.

 

[Passions]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
I'd like to know how many photos are of "prisoners" or "detainees" there are and then like to know how many pictures out of these "1800 digital photographs" are of just our soldiers engaging in sexual acts amongst themselves. I haven't heard much reported on the "non-abuse" photos that are lumped into this Abuse issue. Maybe we should start a thread about those if it's ever reported.

It's a shame that this took place, we have and are working to correct the situation and I hope that all of those who took part in this are punished appropriately. Utterly disgusting.

CkG

Doesn't matter if there's only 1 out of 1800. That's 1 too many.

And I still can't believe no one higher up is claiming responsibility and be willing to step down.

Such a dreamer. Let me guess that during your birthdays, you would wish for World Peace for Mankind too, right?

 

[eigen]

Well when the president invokes ethereal concepts such as "peace, democracy , liberty....etc for the Iraqi people" as justification for our invasion, then it is kind of hard not to be a "dreamer:

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
I'd like to know how many photos are of "prisoners" or "detainees" there are and then like to know how many pictures out of these "1800 digital photographs" are of just our soldiers engaging in sexual acts amongst themselves. I haven't heard much reported on the "non-abuse" photos that are lumped into this Abuse issue. Maybe we should start a thread about those if it's ever reported.

It's a shame that this took place, we have and are working to correct the situation and I hope that all of those who took part in this are punished appropriately. Utterly disgusting.

CkG

I'm getting the feeling that we will not know before the election. IMHO, there's some ugliness that goes far beyond the wankish crap we've seen on the news.

OK I'm going to stop looking . . . this crap is depressing . . .

Human rights campaigners say the US military frequently arrests wives and daughters during raids if the male suspect is not at home.

US officials have acknowledged detaining women in the hope of convincing male relatives to provide information: a strategy that is in violation of international law.

Thank goodness Albert Gonzalez has his fingerprints all over this mess . . . if not he might have made it to the Supreme Court some day.

Senior US military officers who escorted journalists around Abu Ghraib on Monday admitted that rape had taken place in the cellblock where 19 "high-value" male detainees are also being held.

Asked how it could have happened, Colonel Dave Quantock, who is now in charge of the prison's detention facilities, said: "I don't know. It's all about leadership. Apparently it wasn't there."

What I don't understand is that Abu Ghraib was allegedly filled with US intelligence operatives, Sanchez visited at least 3 times, Miller visited, and it had a general (Karpinski . . . albeit clearly low rent) as a full time supervisor. How the hell did it turn into Oz?!

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Passions

Such a dreamer. Let me guess that during your birthdays, you would wish for World Peace for Mankind too, right?

While you wished for a brain. Looks like you were both disappointed.

 

[PingSpike]

Ugh...this is horrible. I don't even know what to say about this. It makes me ashamed to be an American.