The official US vs. UK thread.

[JohnOfSheffield]

All you need to read about UK is that squatters thread. In TX they would be dead, in UK they own your million dollar home. Total fail.

We'll have to bail their ass out of the fryer again I have no doubt when when bloods runs through streets with their Muslim problem.

Basically country is caulk full of Chamberlains ATM.

I kinda agree the squatters law is fucked up, it's not exclusive to the US though, there are states in the US that have the same law (i can't remember which and i can't use a search engine from here but i'm fully confident that you can).

The US BEGGED the UK to join in on Iraq, in WWII, one week before Japan attacked and Germany declared war on your sorry arses President Roosevelt said "we will not get involved in EUROPES war" and you wouldn't have if you weren't declared war on, what the fuck could you do at that point? Your lazy arses were put to work and halfway through you did some little stunts and for that you claim YOU won? Heh... that's the epitome of arrogance.

You helped a bit but there was never any real question, when we fought about the US you barely beat us though, if not for the French you'd be counting pounds when your paycheck arrived.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Scotland OTOH makes the best whiskey in the world. I don't drink carbonated drinks to include beer so I can't comment.

Laphroaig is made where i was born, that's probably why it's so good.

Rest of the bunch is quite useless though, unless you stick out your pinkie and drink some glenmorangie, please do that outside of the UK though, you'll get your arse kicked if you act american (like a nancy boy) in an English or Scottish pub.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Squatting Laws in UK say it all.

England != UK

Squatting is a criminal offence in Scotland, punishable by a fine or even imprisonment.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

No that's the last fundis UK kissed ass too. King Edward VIII even tried to be a nazi. Not to mention turning jews away as they were being persecuted by the 3rd Reich.

Oh, you mean the UK accepted Jews up north while the US even sunk ships with Jewish refugees or directed them to the UK knowing fully well that they would never make the journey?

Don't dance in a minefield Zebo, i'm Jewish of eastern european heritage, i know the history fully well.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

uk funds religious schools
nuff said.

That's true and also so fail...

Stoopid religious skools...

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

England != UK

Squatting is a criminal offence in Scotland, punishable by a fine or even imprisonment.

It's the same in England and the same rules apply, forced entry is never allowed and they can be evicted and imprisoned based on just that in the entire UK.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

That's true and also so fail...

Stoopid religious skools...

So does the US and every nation in the EU. The difference is that in the EU, we get to say what they can and cannot teach, in the US, private schools can have special religious classes.

So it's not as much fail as you think it is, except in the US.

 

[Zebo]

Oh, you mean the UK accepted Jews up north while the US even sunk ships with Jewish refugees or directed them to the UK knowing fully well that they would never make the journey?

Don't dance in a minefield Zebo, i'm Jewish of eastern european heritage, i know the history fully well.

I admit - I'm pretty ignorant about the whole Jewry in WW2 but I do know more died than needed to because world sat on their hands. Very sad. only ~14 million and world could not wait to wipe them out. Gotta link sir?

If America is complicit I'll come down on them too.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

The English are known for their Ales, and particularly their cask ales.

plenty of fine beers come out of England. Don't hate on a very, very important and worthwhile contribution to humanity.

They gave us all of them, including Pale and India Pale Ale.

You missed out Porters and Stouts. Including Guinness :thumbsup:

 

[PlasmaBomb]

It's the same in England and the same rules apply, forced entry is never allowed and they can be evicted and imprisoned based on just that in the entire UK.

The difference is that in Scotland the act of Squatting is illegal in itself, in England Squatting is legal provided you don't have to break in to gain access (or do criminal damage on gaining entry). Granted I'm not a lawyer...

So does the US and every nation in the EU. The difference is that in the EU, we get to say what they can and cannot teach, in the US, private schools can have special religious classes.

So it's not as much fail as you think it is, except in the US.

Religious schools are a bit of a pain in Northern Ireland... but that's another story.

 

[Zebo]

I kinda agree the squatters law is fucked up, it's not exclusive to the US though, there are states in the US that have the same law (i can't remember which and i can't use a search engine from here but i'm fully confident that you can).

The US BEGGED the UK to join in on Iraq, in WWII, one week before Japan attacked and Germany declared war on your sorry arses President Roosevelt said "we will not get involved in EUROPES war" and you wouldn't have if you weren't declared war on, what the fuck could you do at that point? Your lazy arses were put to work and halfway through you did some little stunts and for that you claim YOU won? Heh... that's the epitome of arrogance.

You helped a bit but there was never any real question, when we fought about the US you barely beat us though, if not for the French you'd be counting pounds when your paycheck arrived.

Don't even get me started on the greatest strategic disaster in our history.

Iraq fail, even going in to a former ally who protected secular and religious minorities.. big big fail. Afghanistan could have been "won" i.e. criminals apprehended in 1 year but Bush did not want that. They like no bid contracts, perpetual warfare and it seems give creadance to USA is at war with Islam by killing at random.

All those chickens will come home to roost. Does not mean I don't think Islam is fucked up but it was over there.. we brought it here permanently.

 

[lozina]

Micro brews bullsheit is blech anyway, who drinks that shit?

A proper Guinness and a glass of Laphroaig, that's what a man drinks...

I guess you never tried any of Ommegang's beers

 

[DivideBYZero]

I guess you never tried any of Ommegang's beers

Hush your mouth.

http://www.harveys.org.uk/

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Don't even get me started on the greatest strategic disaster in our history.

Iraq fail, even going in to a former ally who protected secular and religious minorities.. big big fail. Afghanistan could have been "won" i.e. criminals apprehended in 1 year but Bush did not want that. They like no bid contracts, perpetual warfare and it seems give creadance to USA is at war with Islam by killing at random.

All those chickens will come home to roost. Does not mean I don't think Islam is fucked up but it was over there.. we brought it here permanently.

I could not have said that better myself, mistakes were made that prevented a win in Afghanistan and the projected win in Iraq was never going to happen either way. Now we're left with an Afghanistan government and a Pakistani government that negotiates with our enemies, they know we can't protect them and that we will be leaving soon and in Iraq, Iran and Syria have more influence than the US does at this point.

And no, i'm not about to downplay the UK role in the invasion of Iraq, but know that there was NEVER a UK majority or even close to a majority that supported that invasion and that is why Blair had to go, if GW had been smart he would have resigned too and perhaps someone who didn't have to insist on repeating the failed politics could have taken over.

Religions in the third world look pretty much the same, whether Buddhist, Hindu, Christian or Muslim it's the same end result, religious leaders spewing hate and getting followers to do whatever they like regardless of what any religious text says on the matter. Is Islam the worst, most definently, but only because it has more followers in those parts of the world, the REAL biggie is African Muslim - Christian wars but if you are not privvy to that information then you won't hear much about it.

A while ago i said that the Russians and NATO are working together in Afghanistan now, i don't know why the articles have not appeared yet because it was cleared before i said anything about it.

So now it's Russia, NATO and ISAF forces in Afghanistan and there still is NO plan except to kill off the fields to restrict income for the warlords that supply the Taliban.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

The difference is that in Scotland the act of Squatting is illegal in itself, in England Squatting is legal provided you don't have to break in to gain access (or do criminal damage on gaining entry). Granted I'm not a lawyer...

Citation needed for that, i'm fairly sure that Scotland have the same squatting laws since it's a UK law and not English law.

Religious schools are a bit of a pain in Northern Ireland... but that's another story.

Please do tell it, if you want to, i think i know what you are referring to and if you want to leave it at that, i'm fine with a nod for agreement on that.

 

[Monster_Munch]

Religious schools are a problem for the whole of the UK right now. Separation of church and state is something I do envy the Americans for. Although they are currently being taken over by the fundies so it probably wont last for much longer anyway.

 

[KGB]

Don't forget RichUK!


WOT WOT
nice rice
SHUT UP AND LOOK AT MY GAY SHOES AND COUCHES BOUGHT ON CREDIT

:megafap:

 

[bfdd]

Religious schools are a problem for the whole of the UK right now. Separation of church and state is something I do envy the Americans for. Although they are currently being taken over by the fundies so it probably wont last for much longer anyway.

lol wut?

 

[zinfamous]

What is there to know? If you want a proper US beer, get one that is brewed under licence from a UK company and you'll get at least a decent beer, not as good as the original, but decent.

I'm mainly joshing but if it's not Guinness, it's not worth the hassle of increased urination.

damn dude, you really suck at beer. Guiness is by far one of the most watered down, unremarkable porters produced int he world. Their stout is OK, but still inferior to most US versions.

It's obvious that you are arguing from pure ignorance, here, as the only US beer you've likely exposed yourself to is the shit that is exported.

Our market in the US is far greater than any in any other country. It's ridiculous the type of variety.

Again, argument from pure ignorance is not worth considering.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Religious schools are a problem for the whole of the UK right now. Separation of church and state is something I do envy the Americans for. Although they are currently being taken over by the fundies so it probably wont last for much longer anyway.

What the fuck are you on about? I went to Religious schools begining in the late 1970's through to the 90's. How new are they, again? :whiste:

 

[DivideBYZero]

damn dude, you really suck at beer. Guiness is by far one of the most watered down, unremarkable porters produced int he world. Their stout is OK, but still inferior to most US versions.

It's obvious that you are arguing from pure ignorance, here, as the only US beer you've likely exposed yourself to is the shit that is exported.

Our market in the US is far greater than any in any other country. It's ridiculous the type of variety.

Again, argument from pure ignorance is not worth considering.

While I don't agree with Guinness being the paragon of beers, I certainly don't agree with your assertion that all US beers are better. I also find it hilarious that you think the US beer market is wider than the UK. The plethora of choice we have in the UK is in no way emulated in the US.

Shiner Bock. Yeah, I said it. It's shit. Explain that little mess.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

damn dude, you really suck at beer. Guiness is by far one of the most watered down, unremarkable porters produced int he world. Their stout is OK, but still inferior to most US versions.

It's obvious that you are arguing from pure ignorance, here, as the only US beer you've likely exposed yourself to is the shit that is exported.

Our market in the US is far greater than any in any other country. It's ridiculous the type of variety.

Again, argument from pure ignorance is not worth considering.

Learn how to read, twat, draught and lagers are pop for adults and if you consider extra stout to be watered down you know absolutely nothing about beer.

Stick to the cough syrup you usually drink instead.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

While I don't agree with Guinness being the paragon of beers, I certainly don't agree with your assertion that all US beers are better. I also find it hilarious that you think the US beer market is wider than the UK. The plethora of choice we have in the UK is in no way emulated in the US.

Shiner Bock. Yeah, I said it. It's shit. Explain that little mess.

And you call yourself and Englishman? You should be ashamed of yourself...

It's Guinness extra stout or nothing for any real Englishman...

I said before that i'm mainly joshing, i suppose that i can repeat that as many times as i want to because no one seems to understand what it means...

There are a lot of good English brews, US micro brews is just chilled piss, it's not worth the hassle, if you are going to get drunk on shit that tastes bad, just buy vodka.

 

[Monster_Munch]

What the fuck are you on about? I went to Religious schools begining in the late 1970's through to the 90's. How new are they, again? :whiste:

They aren't new at all, but they are increasing in number faster than before thanks to Tony Blair and New Labour's policies.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/sep/02/education.labour

 

[BurnItDwn]

While I don't agree with Guinness being the paragon of beers, I certainly don't agree with your assertion that all US beers are better. I also find it hilarious that you think the US beer market is wider than the UK. The plethora of choice we have in the UK is in no way emulated in the US.

Shiner Bock. Yeah, I said it. It's shit. Explain that little mess.

I don't believe anybody could actually argue "all US beers are better."
But, the US has a great variety of breweries making all kinds of beer.

Allagash and Ommegang focus on Belgian Style ales, and they make some damn good brews.
Rogue, Dogfish Head, Three Floyds etc are all craft brewers who make a whole variety of beers. Many of them are fantastic!
Then there are smaller brewhouses that only distribute in their home state, such as New Glarus, who make wonderfull beers.
Then there's brewers like Goose Island, Stone, Anchor, etc...

Any and every variety of beer you've ever heard of, as well as pretty much all the ones you've never heard of, come from a multitude of brewers in the USA.

So, while stuff like Miller and Budweiser tastes like watery rice with an occasional hop, and they may dominate the mainstream market, they are not in any way shape or form the total sum of American brewing.

PS, Cask Ales are even starting to gain traction over here, it really is a beer paradise!